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  • WEDNESDAY AUGUST 8 2007 9:00 AM

Jerking Off Is Now A Crime, Please Kill Me



There is something worse than living in Florida: Being sent to a prison in Florida. There is something worse than living in a prison in Florida: Not being able to jerk off in a prison in Florida. This week a 20-year-old inmate in the Broward County jail was convicted of masturbating while alone in his jail cell. You read that correctly. A 20-year-old dude was convicted of jerking off while he was alone in his jail cell. I’m going to write that one more time, just in case you are having as hard a time with this as I am. A 20-year-old was convicted of rubbing his cock until semen shot out while he was alone in a jail cell. He convicted of indecent exposure and sentenced to 60 days for the offense. Florida is officially the worst place, ever.

I find it difficult to be alone with my cock in my bedroom without touching it – and I am not deprived of sex. My wife allows me to place my penis in her often and move it about until it goes, “ugh” and releases some sort of sauce. I am lucky. If I were alone in a jail cell, I would attack my penis until it looked like it had lasted fifteen rounds with Mike Tyson in his prime. There would be no stopping how often and how furiously I would masturbate. It would keep me off drugs and out of an Aryan gang. I would have no need to shank anyone, ever. The fact that masturbation is somehow illegal in prison boggles the mind.

Seven other inmates have also been charged with rubbing their cocks to orgasm. Three of the inmates have accepted plea deals, three are awaiting trial and one had his case dismissed. The same deputy, who just happens to be female, charged all of them. I think it is safe to say a man would never charge another man for jerking off.

During the trial, jurors were asked about their own “masturbation habits.” They were also asked to raise their hands if they had never masturbated. Not one juror put their naughty hand up. And that is just the beginning of the worst trial in the history of mankind.


Prosecutor Cynthia Lauriston and the female deputy who complained, after observing him on a monitor as he was alone in his cell, "managed to describe Alexander's offense in startling detail, eight times, once with Lauriston approximating the action with arm motions.”


Nicely done. The defense attorney actually asked the guard if she had considered calling in the SWAT team to stop the prisoner from masturbating.


"Did other inmates start masturbating because of Mr. Alexander?" Ms. McHugh asked Ms. Veal, "Did you call a Swat team?"

"I wish I had," the deputy replied.


Well played, you fucking lunatic. He should have been shot for his horrible self-loving. Why do I think you have never had an orgasm? You just seem bitter.

The jury convicted after determining that a prison cell was neither public nor private but was a "limited access public place.” What a prudent use of state of Florida’s money. The only person worse than the prison guard is the prosecutor who took this crap to trail. We should all rub one out in protest.

 

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LustEye

LustEye

Reston, VA
February 2007

AUG 15, 2007 11:26 AM

OH this is terrible!! Life without playing with myself!??!! I couldn't go it.. I would be in jail for years. I Love everything about sex including self pleasure. I'm not moving any were near FA now! That is just one of the dumbest charges I've hear of.

What was her problem?? As long as none of their "sauce" (as you say) got on her what is the problem?? surreal EL SUICIDO LOCO

Also is watching a guy jerk her kink?? How close was she if she could she them jerking away??

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

AUG 15, 2007 02:44 PM

Starfior said:
Cuz drugs are bad... mmmmkay? So you shouldn't use drugs... cuz they're bad.... mmmmkay?



Didn't I already say this?

Oh yeah.

NickFaust said: But, but, drugs is bad!

Isn't thay?

The presudent says they is. So thay must be.



I think I did your accent pretty well, don't you?

punk

punk

Phoenix, AZ
January 2004

AUG 15, 2007 05:26 PM

NickFaust said:

WOOLY said:

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If this is so I wonder why and what bush and dick are doing D.C.! They have put them selfs above the LAW ,it seems that the two of them must be alone to plot allot and its a fact that they only do thing that are bad four the USA and its people.Like that law I would put money on it that they do each other, also I think the word SHIT has a deeper meaning for bush an dick. There names say it all !!! Dick an Bush are two peas in a pod and there shit smells of hell , Lucifer is waiting to do GOD`S work, LUCIFER is even worried so GOD sent more ANGELS to back up the devils DICK AN BUSH ARE SO BAD THAT THEY THINK THAT LUCIFER WILL BOW TO THEM, THEY USED GOD NAME TO GET POWER OVER PEOPLE THEY THINK THEIR STRONGER THAN GOD CAUSE THEY FOOLED AND USED HIM , BUT GOD WAS NOT FOOLED JUST THE AMERICA PEOPLE. GOD IS GOING TO SHOW DICK,BUSH AND THERE GANG THAT THE WEB THEY WEAVED WILL BE THERE OWEN ENTRAPMENT AND GOD IS REAL HE EXPECTS THE USA TO WAKE UP AN STAND ON THERE FEET AGAIN SOMETHING IS RELY WRONG ,BECAUSE THE LAND OF THE FREE HAS THE BIGGEST PRISON SYSTEM IN THE WORLD, ITS PEOPLE ARE BECOMING SUPPER POOR AN ITS BEING DONE BY THE SYSTEM THAT IS SPOUSED TO BE HELPING THEM WHAT IS NEXT FEMALE CIRCUMCISIONS AT BIRTH SO THAT WONT HURT THEM . THINK ABOUT IT WOULD ALL THE FEMALES FROM BEING PROMISCUOUS BUSH WANTS TO TAKE AWAY FREE CHOICE AN BIRTH CONTROL AND REAL SEX ED,YOU CANT COUNT ON THE PARENTS TO TEACH THEM WHAT THEY DON`T KNOW THEMSELVES . SO Bush SENDS ONE OF HIS HI PAY PUNKS TO TELL HIGH SCHOOL KIDS TO JUST SAY NO . ONE OF MY GRANDDAUGHTERS OTHER GRANDFATHER IS A PASTER AND A BUSH SPOTTERS AN SPORTS HIS JUST SAY NO .I`M ON THE OTHER HAND BELIEVER IN A MUCH OLDER BELIEF I BE LEAVE IN GODS BELIEFS NEEDLESS TO SAY THERE SID OF THE FAMILY FIND THE TRUE OLDER THOUGH PUT IN LEAGUE WITH THE DEVIL AND HE IS A GOD FEARING PASTER .IAMB IN SIDE MY BELIEVE IN THE FIRST RELIGION I `M VERY MUCH TUNE WITH GOD AND DO NOT FEAR HIM AN I NOT IN LEGE WITH DEVIL AND I DON`T FEAR HIM EITHER GOD IS WITH ME (ARE JOINT MUST NOT HAVE GOT THE MESSAGE SHE SAID YES AT YR. SHE STARTED HER PDT AT 11 THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FAMILY JUST DON`T GET IT WHEN THE FULL MOON COMES OUT WE DON`T DANCE NUDE AND HAVE WILD SEX NOT`N THAT IT WOULD BE FUN BUT WE WOULD USE BIRTH CONTROL THE FERTILITY RICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH DEVIL ,BUT TO GAIN MORE PEOPLE AT THAT TIME THAT WAS NEEDED .BUD NOW THE OPPOSITE IS NEEDED NOT SAYING THE SEX THING WOULD NOT BE FUN GO WAY TO MET AN MAKE FRIENDS AND YOUR WITH YOUR MATE IF YOU STAY TO GATHER FINE IF YOU BOTH GO TO MET NEW PEOPLE OR BE WITH OLD FRIENDS OR YOU AND YOUR MATE HAVE WORKED OUT LITERATION'S THERE IS KNOW CHEATING AN SAFE SEX IS THE WORD OF THE DAY ITS ODD THAT OLDEST RELIGION BY BEANING THE NEEDS OF THE MOTHER EARTH ARE SO MUCH MORE ADVANCED AN EVEN THE MOST MODERN CHURCH ARE OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY AN THE FACT THAT WE ARE VERY DANGEROUSLY OVERPOPULATED, THEY NEED TO LEARN THE WAYS OF THE MOTHER AN FATHER "GOD" WE MUST HELP OUR SELF THEN GOD WILL HELP US SAVE OUR PLANT THE POPULATION GROWTH IS OUT OF CONTROL AN THE OTHER MUST STOP PROMOTING NO REAL SEX ED AN MUST PROMOTE THE USE OF BIRTH CONTROL AT A VERY AGE IT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE CHILLINGS PROMISCUOUS IT WILL STOP UNWANTED BIRTH THAT CAN RUIN YOUNG LIFE ,IT ALSO WILL HELP STOP STD`S AN IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO STOP ABORTION .THE BUSH WAY IS THE WAY OF A TOTAL FOOL THINK BACK WAN YOU WERE YOUNG AND FULL RAGING HORMONES DID YOU OR FOR THAT MATER ANYONE JUST SAY NO DON`T LIE TO YOUR SELF YOU KNOW THAT THEIR WHERE MOST LIKELY MANY MORE YES TIMES THAT NO`S YOU CANT STOP HUMAN NATURE YOU MUST WORK WITH AN IF A WOMAN GETS P.G. SHE AND HER DR. SHOULD MAKE THE CHOICE ABOUT ABORTION NOT SOME POLLUTION STATES AWAY OUR ANY ONE ELSE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT OVER YOUR KNOW ONE SHOULD PLAY GOD OVER YOU ,IF THE DI SCION IS WRONG LET BE BETWEEN YOU AN GOD LIFE IS PRICELESS BUT MAYBE GOD DIDN`T`T HAVE THE BABY IN THE GRAND PLAN NO ONE BUT THE PERSON WITH THE PROBLEM SHOULD BE INVOLVED AN THAT EVEN SHOULD APPLY TO THE PERSON PARENTS THAY SHOULD ONLY HAVE ASK WHO THEY SEE FIT TO TALK WITH, IT`S REAL BETWEEN THEM AND GOD HE WILL HELP THEM MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE NOT YOU ORE THE PERSON WHO DON`T KNOW SHIT AND WHEN THEY TRY TO PLAY GOD OVER YOUR LIFE THEIR COMMITTING A GREATER SIN THAN AN ABORTION AN ANY DRUGGIEST OR DR. THAT TREYS TO STOP YOU FROM BIRTH CONTROLS PERSON SHOULD BE FIRED THAY ARE NOT THERE FOR AV ICE BUT TO DO JOB AN IF THEY WONT DO IT THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN THAT JOB !!COULD THIS BE PART OF WHY WE ARE OVERPOPULATED. DICK ,BUSH AND HIS CARTEL OUR GOING TO FIND OUT THAT GOD SHIT IS THE ONLY SHIT THAT DON`T STINK BUT CAN MAKE THING GROW . HE RELAY HAS A VERY VERY SPECIALIZED FOR THOSE PIECES OF SHIT IN HELL FOR BUSH,DICK AN COMPANY . GOD IS A GOOD GOD AN HIS VERY OWN RELIGION AND ITS OLDER THAN MAN AN ALL OF HIS . GOD HAS GAVE US BOOKS AND HIS ONE SON AN OTHER BEFORE AND SINCE THEN THEN BUT THE EXTREMES WANT POWER AN LIKE BUSH USE GOD NAME IN VAIN AN MAN MISSES THE TRUE MEANING OF GOD`S OWEN RELIGION BECAUSE MAN CHANGE THING LEFT THINS OUT AN THE SADES THING OF ALL IS THAT ALL OF MANS RELIGION ARE FALLING CHRISTEN, AN MUSLIM IN PA TICKER MAN IS BECOMING A BAD VIREOS AN THE MOTHER OUR MOTHER IS VERY SICK .GOD FIRST CONCERN IS "THAT YOU HA VETO LOVE AN TAKE CARE OF THE MOTHER FIRST AND THEN GOD WILL SMILE ON YOU" AN START TO HELP HUMAN KIND AGAIN THE SECOND COMING ISN`T MEANT FOR US GOD CHILD RED TO TO FEAR .MAN AND WOMAN IF THAY DO THE RIGHT THINGS TO BE ABEL TO TAKE OVER INTERRING THE AGE OF HUMANKIND (YES THAT MAN AND WOMAN KIND, NOT THE AGE OF MAN.) IF WE CANT DO THIS THEN THE SE COMING WILL BE ALL SOUL'S GOING TO BE WITH GOD AND THE END OF THE HUMAN RACE(THATS RIGHT WE EAT THE SHIT AND THAT NOT WHAT GOD REALLY WANTED HE DIDN`T DO ALL THIS JUST TO SEE IT TURN TO SHIT THE BAD PART IS WE ARE FALLING BIG TIME) MAN HAS BEEN A BAD BOY AN THE SICK PART IS ALOT OF IT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE NAME OF GOD (THIS HAS REALLY GOT HIM PISSED OFF )BEING A GOOD GOD HE IS ONCE AGAIN GIVE USONE MORE AND MOST LIKELY THE LAST CHANCE TIME FOR GOD TO TURN THING OVER TO US IS RUNNING OUT (THE TINE MAY BE JUST LITTLE A LET US HOPE NOT) iT`S JUST THAT TO BE BLUNT WE HAVE GOT THING FUCKED UP (GOD SEEMS TO FEEL THAT ONLY SOME WORDS CAN TRULY CONVEY THE MESSAGE AND HE IS NOT SORRY FOR THE WEAK WHO SHUN OR CAN`T HANDLE A WORD ) SO HE IS SORRY FOR THE ONE`S WHO CAN`T HANDLE THE TURN "FUCKED UP" GOD HAS GAVE SOMETHING TO LET YOU KNOW AN THAT "GET OFFER IT AND GET YOUR DUMB ASS OUT OF THE MESS YOU HAVE MADE " IF YOU DON`T TIME IS GOING TO SHIT ON YOUR HEAD AND SOULS HE IS RIGHTFULLY PUTOUT WITH US AND IN A BIG WAY . HE EXPECT ALL PEOPLES AN RELIGION'S TO WORK TOGETHER FOR MOM "IF YOUR SO DUMB MOM IS THE GARDEN OF EDEN AND ITS NOT A SPOT ITS THE WONDERFUL PLANT CALLED EARTH I HOPE YOU GET THE PICTURE AND THE PLAN NOW HE GAVE YOU CHOICE AND KNOWLEDGE AN SOLE FOR YOU TO DO THAT NOT THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE .TAKE CARE OF THE MOTHER IS NUMBER ONE BECAUSE TO DO THAT THE REST SHOULD FALL TOUGHER . #2 THOUGH SHALL NOT KILL " HAVE WE MISSED SOMETHING GOD IS RIGHTLY PISSED OFF WHEN PEOPLE NEEDLESSLY KILL BUT AN THIS IS A BIG BUT NEVER AND HE MEANS NEVER SHOULD AT ANY TIME SHOULD WE ,SOMEONE KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD !!!!!! DO YOU GET THE POINT KNOW WILL KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD KNOW MATTER WHAT NAME YOU GIVE HIM BE IT ALLA CHRIST OR TIMOTHY LEARY OR EVEN CHARLES MASON DO YOU GET THE POINT "NO MATTER WHAT NAME YOU GIVE ME THO SHALL NOT KILL OR MURDER STEAL OR RAPE IN MY NAME OR YOUR CONCEPT OF MY NAME . TO LET THE TRUTH BE KNOW HUMANS DO NOT HAVE THE VOCAL RANGE TO EVEN COME CLOSE TO WHAT I WOULD CALL MY SELF IF I HAD THE NEED AN I DONT SO GOD SEEMS SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE .ITS JUST SO HEART BREAKING FOR ME YOUR GOD 'AND I`M PUTTING IT THIS WAY SO YOU WILL UNDERSTAND"TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE THE MOTHER YOUR MOTHER THAT I GIFTED YOU WITH!!! #3MAN IS MOSTLY TO BLAME NOT WOMAN ,BUT GIRLS DON`T LET IT GO TO YOUR HEADS BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE SHIT LAND ON YOU TO "ESPECIAL WHEN I GAVE YOU TWO GREAT GIFTS THAT I DIDN`T GIVE MAN' THINK ON THAT FOR A MOMENT.I HOPE YOU PUT SOME TIME ON THAT.THE POOR MAN THAT I`M TALKING THROUGH HAD THE KNOWLEDGE THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME HE WOULD GANE IN-SITES "ITS A MEAN TRICK ON MY PART BUT IT HAD TO BE THAN I HAD TO MAKE DISLECT ,HAVE SEVER SLEEP DISORDER. WHAT WILL BE CALLED ADD,ADHD.BIPOLAR,DEPRESSION ,AUTISM,AN PHYSIC ABILITIES WITH NOT TO MEANY PEOPLE OR HAND TO HELP HIM I KNOW THAT AS HE RIGHT THIS HE IS SEE THING MORE NOW AND UNDERSTANDS "FOR GIVE YOUR GOD FOR THE PROBLEMS IN LIFE ESPLICE NOW WHEN THING SEEM TO BE AT THERE ALL TIME LOW ALSO KNOW THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THE VERY FEW THAT I HAVE SAID THAT TO AS GOD I HAVE GIVEN YOU SOMETHING SOME ARE YET TO COME" #4THIS IS NOT TO BE MADE INTO A LIST OR COMMANDMENTS SO I`M GOING CUT THE NUMBERS DO HOW EVER AS I FOR GIVE THE MAN I SEND THIS WORDS TO ALL OF YOU TO BEAR WITH SPELLING AND GRAMMAR ERRORS FOR I HAVE GIVE HIM HIS CROSS TO BEAR FOR HIS SAFETY AND SO HE WOULD GIT THE THOUGHTS AT AS CLOSE TO THE RIGHT TIME ,HE WOULD NOT BE WRITING THIS IF I DID NOT WILL IT ESPECIAL THROUGH HIS HANDICAPS AND THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR MEAD TO CONVEY MY MESSAGE . BELIEVE IT THIS WHY THIS SITE AS THEIR CALLED HAS HAD THE SPECIAL AND UNSEE GROWTH RATE AS WELL AS TO WAKE UP THE SLEEP MASS THING CALLED RELIGION ,THE CHURCH AN I'M SORRY THAT THAY JUST CAN`T WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY. THE CHURCH SHOULD ALL BE WORKING TOUGHER NO MATTER WHAT
THEY MAY CALL THEM SELF SHOULD BE SO DEEPLY ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES FOR THEIR FALLER TO UNDERSTAND MY MESSAGES AND TEACHINGS APPLY FOR THERE TAMPERING WITH MY GIFF AND THE THING THAT WERE LEFT OUT OF MY TEACHING FOR GREED AN TO HAVE POWER OVER OTHERS. THING THAT FOR THE MAN HAVE TO BE CONVEYED AND DONE IN HOPE THAT THIS CAN BE FIXED. MANS TENEMENT OF WOMAN SHE IS TO BE HIS PARTNER AND EQUAL BOTH SEXES MUST WORK IN HARMONIE TO BE WHOLE . MAN HAS SUPPRESSED WOMAN IN THERE RIGHTS IN MANY COUNTRIES AND THE CHURCH ONCE AGAIN IS HORRIBLY GUILTY WITH LIES ABOUT SEX BUT MOST OF ALL THE OMISSION OF THE GOSPULS MARYS MY SONS SECOUND WIFE AD YES THE FOUR GOSPULS OF MY SONS AND THE 2 OF MAN. THESE HOLD THE KEYS AND ARE WACHED OVER BY GARDS OF THE ONE OF THE GRAIL LOCASION MAN IS NOT REDY FOR EVERYTHING NOT THIS ONE BUT ONE THAT IS ALL MOST TIME WILL SHOW WHY ERLY MAN WAS KEPT IN THE DARK ABOUT NORTH AMAERCIA SEEK THE SLIPER OF SOUTH WEST CANDA TO FIND THE BLOOD LINE FROM HIS FIRST WIFE THREE STARS WILL CENTER OVER THREE TALL PEAKS TO SHOW THE SLPER FROM THE CENTER A TRAIL THAT WILL LEAD TO KNOWARE A OPENING WILL APPER TO THE TRUE SECECERS AND MUCH WILL BE REVEALED TO THEM AND THE USA GIVE THE PEOPLE THE RIGHTS TO THE MY GREATES PLANT GIFT TO MAN MUCH WILL COME ABOUT GENISUS 1:12 . BUT THE SICKNESS IN THE USA MUST BE DELT WITH FAST FOR THE BURNING BUSH WILL BRING TERRER TO THIS MOST BUETFULE NORTH WEST PART FOR HE IS WITH OUT SOUL AN KILLING HIS OWN PEOPLE HE HAS ALREDY SHON US THAT LIFE MEANS LITTLE IF IT MUST BE THE CITASEN MUST PLACE THE EVEL UNDER CITCITENS ARESST IF THE ONES WHO SHOULD ACT THE WEAK ARE AFRADE THE FLAMS DRAW NEAR FOR THE NORTH WEST FOR THREE WEMEN THAT AS A TEAM ARE A GREAT POWER AD IF THEY TRYED THEY CAN TAKE THE WHITE HOUSE BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO LEAD AND TWO SHOULD DEVIED THE ORHER LESSER POWER THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THE HEALING CAN TRULY BE STARTED THAIR GREAT CHANGE MUST HAPPEN THE BUENING BUSH MUST BE STOPED NOW OR THE DEATHS WILL BRING TEARS THE SIZE OF RIVERS. THE TIME IS NOW FOR I GOD WILL BE WITH YOU BUT YOU MUST TAKE STRONG ACTION TIME IS NOT GOING TO HAVE PITTEY AN NETHER WILL THE SOUND OF THE GREAT CRY OF DEATH. THIS WORDS I GIVE YOU RUN TRUE YOUR LORD GOD AN FATHER TAKE CARE OF YOUR MOTHER.(THROW whatever confused mad mad mad blackeyed puke eeek



Dude. They make medication for this.

And, you know, caps lock?



That is pure, concentrated crazy right there.

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

AUG 15, 2007 07:47 PM

I feel like I'm fucking Jesse James when I fap.

Take that copper! You'll never catch meee!

VinnyVidiVici

VinnyVidiVici

Orange Park, FL
February 2006

AUG 15, 2007 08:18 PM

LustEye said:
OH this is terrible!! Life without playing with myself!??!! I couldn't go it.. I would be in jail for years. I Love everything about sex including self pleasure. I'm not moving any were near FA now! That is just one of the dumbest charges I've hear of.

What was her problem?? As long as none of their "sauce" (as you say) got on her what is the problem?? surreal EL SUICIDO LOCO

Also is watching a guy jerk her kink?? How close was she if she could she them jerking away??



I believe the cells are monitored by camera. Her job is to check the monitors to make sure they are not doing anything wrong. I can sort of understand her plight, it's her job, she shouldn't have to watch these dudes beat the Bishop all day. But then again, she should have had some idea of what she was getting into.

Technically it is against the law, but the logistics of charging every prisoner for waxing the dolphin is insane. I would think if anything loss of privileges would be in order before criminal charges are filed.

Starfior

Starfior

Madison, WI
February 2005

AUG 17, 2007 04:55 AM

NickFaust said:

Starfior said:
Cuz drugs are bad... mmmmkay? So you shouldn't use drugs... cuz they're bad.... mmmmkay?



Didn't I already say this?

Oh yeah.

NickFaust said: But, but, drugs is bad!

Isn't thay?

The presudent says they is. So thay must be.



I think I did your accent pretty well, don't you?



Hmm.... actually you really seemed to be aiming towards uneducated sheep follower redneck, and I was aiming for Mr. Mackey from South Park. And I'm from the midwest with no noticeable accent and am pro-decriminalization of drug offenses... So... nope... You didn't quite hit the mark.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

AUG 17, 2007 08:36 AM

Starfior said:

NickFaust said:

Starfior said:
Cuz drugs are bad... mmmmkay? So you shouldn't use drugs... cuz they're bad.... mmmmkay?



Didn't I already say this?

Oh yeah.

NickFaust said: But, but, drugs is bad!

Isn't thay?

The presudent says they is. So thay must be.



I think I did your accent pretty well, don't you?



Hmm.... actually you really seemed to be aiming towards uneducated sheep follower redneck, and I was aiming for Mr. Mackey from South Park. And I'm from the midwest with no noticeable accent and am pro-decriminalization of drug offenses... So... nope... You didn't quite hit the mark.



Well, I was sort of going for generic ignorant sodbuster, but I am happy to hear that you think it doesn't apply to you, but, to be honest, I have seen no evidence of any sort of educated opinion to date, so, you know, I don't know.

As for decriimnalization, what kind of libertarian are you? Legalization is the only right response. The state has no right to tell us what we can put in our bodies. Right? Decriminalization is just some moral limbo: "It's still wrong, but we won't spank you."

Starfior

Starfior

Madison, WI
February 2005

AUG 17, 2007 11:44 AM

I'm the kind of libertarian that realizes that small steps are more likely to succeed than large ridiculous ones. I guess you could say that I'm the kind that will accept compromise to get closer to what I want. You know... a reasonable one. That's why I have such a huge problem with dems and reps. The Dems are really good at pointing out the problem and do little to take immediate steps but instead spend money like they're drunk at a casino researching the problem. Meanwhile the Reps run headlong at the problem with schemes that would make Wile E Coyote laugh. So you get one side doing nothing and the other doing everything wrong.

So ideally and long term, legalization. Realistically and short term, decriminalization.

And the reason I think your sod-buster (good term by the way, I like that) accent doesn't apply to me is that I think freely and just because my opinion doesn't agree with yours doesn't make mine uneducated. Just as yours not agreeing with mine doesn't make you wrong. It just makes you in opposition to me on an issue. I'm sure there are plenty of things that we agree on, or at the very least could agree to a compromise on. You just seem a little too quick to call everything that doesn't sit right with you wrong and morally reprehensible, and that's kinda sad.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

AUG 17, 2007 12:17 PM

Starfior said:
I'm the kind of libertarian that realizes that small steps are more likely to succeed than large ridiculous ones. I guess you could say that I'm the kind that will accept compromise to get closer to what I want. You know... a reasonable one. That's why I have such a huge problem with dems and reps. The Dems are really good at pointing out the problem and do little to take immediate steps but instead spend money like they're drunk at a casino researching the problem. Meanwhile the Reps run headlong at the problem with schemes that would make Wile E Coyote laugh. So you get one side doing nothing and the other doing everything wrong.

So ideally and long term, legalization. Realistically and short term, decriminalization.

And the reason I think your sod-buster (good term by the way, I like that) accent doesn't apply to me is that I think freely and just because my opinion doesn't agree with yours doesn't make mine uneducated. Just as yours not agreeing with mine doesn't make you wrong. It just makes you in opposition to me on an issue. I'm sure there are plenty of things that we agree on, or at the very least could agree to a compromise on. You just seem a little too quick to call everything that doesn't sit right with you wrong and morally reprehensible, and that's kinda sad.



I used the term uneducated advisedly. Your analysis (I am using the term loosely here) above being a case in point. There are no "Dems" and "Reps" there are lose organizations and affiliations that come together and apart as the needs seem to demand. The current "Republicans" (I am speaking in terms of leadership here as the rank and file is anything but monolithic) look nothing like T Roosevelt's (and are a far cry from Goldwater's) and the current "Dems" look nothing like FDR's or even like Kennedy's In fact they look more like T. Roosevelt Republicans.

It is all about compromise and sharing power and you know what? Any Libertarian that could actually get elected would look exactly the fucking same.

It is time for you to trade in your middle school sensibilities and figure out how you want to deal with the real world. The one you have constructed is pure fantasy. And an uneducated one at that.

I think that you would find that I do not disagree with reasoned libertarian (that is classical liberal) points of view at all. What I disagree with is your sophomoric take on them.

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