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It’s Official: Democrats Do Not Have Spinal Columns



It is a sad truth. After years of scientific study, Democrats proved beyond reasonable doubt this weekend that they are invertebrates. The good news for Democrats is that they are not alone, because 97% of all animal species live without spines. The Democrats have now joined the likes of flatworms, sea cucumbers, jellyfish, snails, insects, leeches and squid. They achieved their new status by amending the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act by a vote of 60 to 28 in the Senate, and by 227 to 183 in the House. They made the exact changes to FISA that Bush wanted, just like the Republican controlled Congress did for 6 years. Congrats, Dems!

Seems like it was just last November when I thought the Democrats taking over Congress would mean that Bush would not be allowed to trample on the Constitution whenever he said, “Terrorists.” I guess I was wrong. The Protect America Act makes President George W. Bush's illegal wiretapping order retroactively legal, gives enormous power to Alberto Gonzalez and allows warrant-less wiretapping on your phone if you are talking to a foreign fella.


“We are deeply disappointed that the president’s tactics of fear mongering have once again forced Congress into submission,” said Anthony Romero, executive director of the ACLU. “That a Democratically-controlled Senate would be strong-armed by the Bush administration is astonishing. This Congress may prove to be as spineless in standing up to the Bush Administration as the one that enacted the Patriot Act or the Military Commissions Act.”


Over and over, the Democrats make it clear that they have no idea what to do with a majority. They are fucking pathetic. I am not saying every single Democrat is pathetic, just enough to ruin the country. A few, like Russ Feingold, refused to cave in to the Republican scare tactics.


Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wisconsin, angrily chastised his colleagues for bending to the administration's will.

"The day we start deferring to someone who's not a member of this body ... is a sad day for the U.S. Senate," Feingold said. "We make the policy -- not the executive branch."


Well said, Russ. It’s too bad that so many in your party are sans spines. What did the Democrats fear so much? Bush was demanding that the FISA bill be passed before Congress went on vacation, even at one point threatening to not allow Congress to take August off. (He can't actuallly do that, but he was just trying to show how little he understands the Constitution) Bush and his cronies hammered the point home: If Congress leaves without amending the FISA law and a terrorist attack occurs, it will be the Democrats fault.


"Al Qaeda is not going on vacation this month," said Sen. Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky. "And we can't either until we know we've done our duty to the American people."


No, al Qaeda is not going to take a vacation. And since al-Qaeda won’t be on vacation, we can all be thankful that we already have a FISA court that handles such situations and we don’t need to give enormous power to one branch of government. I mean, we would have been thankful, if the Democrats were not invertebrates.

These are the names of the Democratic cowards in the Senate who undermined the Constitution because they didn’t want to spend the month of August being called “weak on terrorism:”


Evan Bayh (Indiana); Tom Carper (Delaware); Bob Casey (Pennsylvania); Kent Conrad (North Dakota); Dianne Feinstein (California); Daniel Inouye (Hawaii); Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota); Mary Landrieu (Louisiana); Blanche Lincoln (Arkansas); Claire McCaskill (Missouri); Barbara Mikulski (Maryland); Bill Nelson (Florida); Ben Nelson (Nebraska); Mark Pryor (Arkansas); Ken Salazar (Colorado); Jim Webb (Virginia).


Forty Democratic members of the House voted with the Republicans. Those who did not, were very unhappy.



Because many Democrats went along with Bush’s desires, this is where we now stand: Alberto Gonzalez, the man Democrats believe has subverted the Constitution for Bush, lied to Congress, obstructed justice, and defended torture, has now been given the power to declare who is going to be a target of warrant-less surveillance. Fucking amazing. Democrats rail against the man, hold hearing after hearing, constantly call him unfit to be Attorney General and then give him enormous power. Wonderful consistency.

At what point do the Democrats stop caving in to the Republican threats to call them names and grow some balls? How many times will they roll over and basically shit on their base? The Democrats in Congress are still living in the year 2002 and a lot has happened since then. The main change being that Bush is wildly unpopular and Americans seem to want him to be stopped from doing ANYTHING. Yet, the Democrats roll over like he is a 900 lb. gorilla. Amazing.

Our Constitution was created to keep in check any tyrannical attempt to take over our government. The Founding Fathers foresaw exactly this sort of scenario and created a framework to stop it. It is inevitable that a president would attempt this kind of power grab. In 2006, the Democrats were handed Congress – just as the Founding Fathers envisioned would occur in such a circumstance. But what they did not envision was that the Democrats would be complete cowards and fail to defend the Constitution. I now believe Democrats are now a bigger problem than Bush.

There will always be criminals, police and the courts. Crimes will always be committed and we expect the law to do its part to keep us safe. If suddenly the police and courts stopped prosecuting criminals, who would you be most upset with? It is the job of law enforcement and the courts to stop crime, just as it is the job of Congress to keep the executive branch from breaking the law. Unfortunately, the Democratic Congress is now helping Bush to break the law.

The Democrats are saying it’s not that bad because the FISA law has a 180-day sunset provision, which means in six-months it has to be approved by Congress again to continue. Wow, that’s great. But who is going to be in control of Congress in six-months? Oh, the same chickenshits. Bush will use the same argument and they will cave all over again.

The Democrats have never given us a reason to believe anything different will occur. They only do one thing: They capitulate to the president in order avoid having a vote used against them and being called weak on terrorism. But they are called weak anyway, because they don’t vote as one unified block. Just a few cross over, enough to pass the bill, leaving behind many Democrats who are then called “weak on terrorism.” It is a fantastic lose-lose situation that has been going on since 9/11. Why change it?

I have no doubt that when the Democrats return to their constituents during this break, they will be shocked at the anger over their votes on the FISA law. Then they will start talking tough. “This is the last time,” they will say. How do I know this will happen? The same scenario happened just three months ago with the Iraq war. Democrats caved in to Bush, then were surprised at the anger when they returned home on their spring vacation. When they returned to Congress, they were all piss and vinegar and ready for a fight. It resulted in the Democrats forcing the Republicans to filibuster. Oh, you tough bastards! It was meaningless gesture because the Democrats know they can stop the war tomorrow, by simply telling Bush there will be no more funding for the war. The money runs out in March, end of story. Such an action requires no vote. Republicans would be helpless. The Democrats will not take this action, however, because they are pussies.

The argument is that if the Democrats stop funding the war, then they will lose the presidential election. So, how does that go? Majority of Americans want war stopped. Democrats use their power to stop war. Americans don’t vote for Democrats. Can’t beat that logic. By not stopping the war, Democrats are making one point very clear: Their hold on power is far more important than saving American lives in a futile war, just as their hold on power is more important than protecting the Constitution.

The Republicans have no problem standing up for what they believe in. Last month, the Republicans filibustered a Democratic vote on the Iraq war. That is exactly what the Democrats did not do to stop Samuel Alito from landing his ass on the Supreme Court when they were in the minority. Why did they not do it? Because they were afraid of being labeled obstructionists. If they had courage, they would have stood up and said, “Yes, we are being obstructionists because we are fighting for what we believe in. That is why we were elected.” But they don’t. And they won’t. Because the Democrats have no spinal columns, much like earthworms.

 

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PatrickY

PatrickY

Vancouver, WA
December 2003

AUG 06, 2007 04:26 PM

Krass_of_nod said:

PatrickY said:

Krass_of_nod said:
when are you people going to learn that politics in America don't mean shit...

since the 50's the government has been doing whatever the hell it wants to regardless of what the people think about it.....



You realize that what you just said is a complete crock of shit, right?



SNIP

oh and on a side note, your opinion about what i said is total and complete crap, you obviously believe the lies, you obviously have not read the real history of how we got where we are, and you are a sheep. exactly what the government wants

take your politics Patrickv and stick them where the moon doesn't shine.



I determined the value of your opinion from your first post. More evidence wasn't really necessary, but it did make me laugh.

Krass_of_nod

Krass_of_nod

Bend, OR
April 2005

AUG 06, 2007 04:34 PM

scorp17yh said:

Krass_of_nod said:
when are you people going to learn that politics in America don't mean shit...

since the 50's the government has been doing whatever the hell it wants to regardless of what the people think about it.....




Wasn't that aobut the time Ike warned us of the
Millitary Industrial Complex



yep smile at least someone is paying attention smile smile

Krass_of_nod

Krass_of_nod

Bend, OR
April 2005

AUG 06, 2007 04:35 PM

KUNGFOO said:

Krass_of_nod said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

PatrickY said:

Krass_of_nod said:
when are you people going to learn that politics in America don't mean shit...

since the 50's the government has been doing whatever the hell it wants to regardless of what the people think about it.....



You realize that what you just said is a complete crock of shit, right?


or those of you who are still buffaloed by the bullshit smoke and mirrors, I present to you the truth about your sad state of existense

the government of the United states of America doesn't give a shit about what you think.

the proof is in the pudding.

in 200 bush won the election, but why? Al gore had 300k more votes. Vietnam happened just like Iraq, but at least Vietnam only happened ONCE. this is only the beginning lets look at history shall we. The way we came her by taking this land from its natural inhabitants. I mean the very founding of our country was done so on the blood of the innocent.

Things are getting worse in general, freedoms are disappearing at an alarming rate, and tell me is it really freedom when your living life by someone else's standards? HAHAHAHA

Our government can now step in and take everything you have from you just because thye decided that you are making it difficult for them to continue their war.... basically what that really means is if you are a dissenter with the current regime, then you are also a terrorist and un-american and we are going to take everything from you to shut you up.

I say we hold a vote right now to change the name of the united States of America to The Imperial Capitalist Empire of America. That name really does convey the reality of our situation much better than the old name.

The question I have to ask is, am I really politically apathetic, no. I am politically realistic, but you can cling to your ways if like while me and mine forge our way out of this mess our fucked up government and fucked up politics has gotten us into.....

congratulations on being part of a country that is now hated and feared almost the world over. Way to go ass hats, congratulations

You what really makes me laugh, if I were pres i would have told you I was going to Iraq to kick their ass, why because you like driving your car. I mean think about it Clinton gets kicked out for lieing about smoking pot, his lies didn't lead to a lot of dead people on both sides that didn't really need to die in the first place. At least if we had honesty I would support the war, but i hate being lied to period.

if politicians were honest, then I would feel different but I am seriously getting sick of being lied to by MY OWN GOVERNMENT

so next time you want to make an asshole comment to me about anything you might want to actually back up what your saying with facts rather than just a half assed attempt to smear me. then again its the only thing politicians are good for

I will tell you what. I am an evil person, I am comfortable with that and I don't care who knows. The least Bush could have said was "I am pissed at Iraq because my daddy didn't get his way."

here is my plan in 08'

1: we nuke the shit out of Iraq AFTER we make commercials and other propaganda with the slogan "You like your car, and we don't think we should pay for oil"

2: we add it to the union as the 53rd state

3: we turn it into a tourist/resort for big money to go and hang out

We certainly are not doing anything that we didn't do before to get where we are now, why stop now? If you are going to do something do it fucking right, and don't get all half assed just because some people say oh thats horrible. Where were those people who cared when we gave the natives blankets from small pox victims? where were those people who cared when we forced an entire nation of people to lay down arms and live on small segments of their own fucking land? HUH? WHERE?

oh and on a side note, your opinion about what i said is total and complete crap, you obviously believe the lies, you obviously have not read the real history of how we got where we are, and you are a sheep. exactly what the government wants

take your politics Patrickv and stick them where the moon doesn't shine.



Okay then. It's not apathy, it's just idiocy.



if anything is untrue in what i said then prove it, but saying that its idiocy isn't proving that its idiocy....

Learn to debate and,

try again asshat

Krass_of_nod

Krass_of_nod

Bend, OR
April 2005

AUG 06, 2007 04:38 PM

PatrickY said:

I determined the value of your opinion from your first post. More evidence wasn't really necessary, but it did make me laugh.



opinion, no man its fact. it researchable hard fact. and you still have no valid rebuttal....so i guess that means you are not worthy after all, sheesh and i thought i was actually going to spark a worthwhile debate....

sick

sick

Minneapolis, MN
June 2003

AUG 06, 2007 04:44 PM

I sincerely hoped that my senators wouldn't be on that list. And there she is: Amy Klobuchar. Damn it.

I'll begin writing a letter to my congresspeople as soon as I'm not irrational with anger.

Krass_of_nod

Krass_of_nod

Bend, OR
April 2005

AUG 06, 2007 04:56 PM

oh my god I cannot believe i forgot this little addition to the awesomeness that is our fucked country

We are still the only country who has lit off a nuclear weapon against another people.
Still to this day we have not had sanctions and nothing has been done about it.

I do not believe the UN was around when we lit it off (not sure but i thought UN came into being after WW2), but that sure as fuck does not absolve us of the crime.


MrKingMob

MrKingMob

Chicago, IL
January 2003

AUG 06, 2007 05:05 PM

Krass_of_nod said:

PatrickY said:

Krass_of_nod said:
when are you people going to learn that politics in America don't mean shit...

since the 50's the government has been doing whatever the hell it wants to regardless of what the people think about it.....



You realize that what you just said is a complete crock of shit, right?




here is my plan in 08'

1: we nuke the shit out of Iraq AFTER we make commercials and other propaganda with the slogan "You like your car, and we don't think we should pay for oil"

2: we add it to the union as the 53rd state

3: we turn half of it into a tourist resort for big money to go and hang out

4: we turn the other half of it into a military base.




You thought you were going to start a debate with a diatribe that included the above four-step program? That's interesting. Why do I get the feeling that that will only spark angry and/or dismissive responses here? Probably has something to do with the fact that debates are typically level-headed, calm and coherent in their approach. I can't say that yours is any of those.

Which is [a teeny bit] unfortunate because there are kernels of truisms in there which don't get recognized stateside very often such as one of your initial posts citing the 50s as a significant touchstone in the US's rapid descent into empire. I'm not sure if you implied the Ike military-industrial complex angle as one poster thought you might have, but I'd agree on that score.

To recap: if you want debate, don't come in swinging.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

AUG 06, 2007 05:10 PM

Krass_of_nod said:

KUNGFOO said:
Okay then. It's not apathy, it's just idiocy.



if anything is untrue in what i said then prove it, but saying that its idiocy isn't proving that its idiocy....

Learn to debate and,

try again asshat




I'm not saying history is idiocy, I'm saying your argument is idiocy.

While, yes, you have cited several things in your rant that are true, you're making an argument that we as people and citizen can't do anything about it. America's history is stained with a lot of blood, but think how much worse it would be if there were only people that accepted it as it were. That is either apathy or idiocy.

I really doubt you have the competency to debate here when you dissolve it into simple insults like "asshat".

Gringo

Gringo

Spokane, WA
May 2006

AUG 06, 2007 05:11 PM

JekyllAndHyde said:
I'll vote for the next president, but I'm seriously considering just not voting for anyone running for Congress anymore. Except maybe that pissed off representative from Texas in the video, if she's in my district.


I still wonder why so much money is spent for campaigning to a public whose vote doesn't actually decide the president anyway.

Kenet

Kenet

USA
November 2004

AUG 06, 2007 05:31 PM

Wow, this is just embarrassing for our country. Then again, I'm getting used to that.

Krass_of_nod

Krass_of_nod

Bend, OR
April 2005

AUG 06, 2007 06:33 PM

MrKingMob said:

Krass_of_nod said:

PatrickY said:

Krass_of_nod said:
when are you people going to learn that politics in America don't mean shit...

since the 50's the government has been doing whatever the hell it wants to regardless of what the people think about it.....



You realize that what you just said is a complete crock of shit, right?




here is my plan in 08'

1: we nuke the shit out of Iraq AFTER we make commercials and other propaganda with the slogan "You like your car, and we don't think we should pay for oil"

2: we add it to the union as the 53rd state

3: we turn half of it into a tourist resort for big money to go and hang out

4: we turn the other half of it into a military base.




You thought you were going to start a debate with a diatribe that included the above four-step program? That's interesting. Why do I get the feeling that that will only spark angry and/or dismissive responses here? Probably has something to do with the fact that debates are typically level-headed, calm and coherent in their approach. I can't say that yours is any of those.

Which is [a teeny bit] unfortunate because there are kernels of truisms in there which don't get recognized stateside very often such as one of your initial posts citing the 50s as a significant touchstone in the US's rapid descent into empire. I'm not sure if you implied the Ike military-industrial complex angle as one poster thought you might have, but I'd agree on that score.

To recap: if you want debate, don't come in swinging.



never said my plan agreed with anyone's lunch, but at least its honest. Also, I never said i was running for pres either.....

as far as the 4 step, plan that is debatable, you don't like it, and you don't have like it, its not like its actually going to be put into practice.....

and uhm i think it was patrick who came in swinging saying the the truth was a crock of shit.....

read the WHOLE thread and then think back on this post.....because you even quoted what he said.....

Tiger_Fodder

Tiger_Fodder

Braintree, MA
June 2007

AUG 06, 2007 06:40 PM

Since we are talking about anatomy I would add that not only do Democrats lack a spinal column but they also lack BALLS! Of course, there are some fine women in the Senate that despite their lack of actual testicles, show more BALLS than those men listed. I have maintained that Democrats are as much to blame for the current mess than the despicable Republicans. If this country has ever needed a viable third party it is TODAY!

Krass_of_nod

Krass_of_nod

Bend, OR
April 2005

AUG 06, 2007 06:57 PM

KUNGFOO said:

Krass_of_nod said:

KUNGFOO said:
Okay then. It's not apathy, it's just idiocy.



if anything is untrue in what i said then prove it, but saying that its idiocy isn't proving that its idiocy....

Learn to debate and,

try again asshat





I'm not saying history is idiocy, I'm saying your argument is idiocy.

While, yes, you have cited several things in your rant that are true, you're making an argument that we as people and citizen can't do anything about it. America's history is stained with a lot of blood, but think how much worse it would be if there were only people that accepted it as it were. That is either apathy or idiocy.

I really doubt you have the competency to debate here when you dissolve it into simple insults like "asshat".



well, then write those congressmen and tell them what you think about it, it isn't going to change anything. nor has it in half of a century.....

money is what our gov loves, if you have money you can make the laws....thats what corporate america has been doing the whole time. you think your government has your best interests in mind, then why is it that the FDA allows drugs and food additives that are proven cancerous to ingest to be marketed and not have to be labeled.

Your box of cheerios says hearth healthy on it and has the seal of the AHA to back it up, but in truth general mills PAID for that to be put put on the box, if you don't believe me look that up to. Cheerios is no healthier for you than any loaf of bread....think about it.

Starlink corn is man made corn substitute that has been linked to not only cancer, but can cause people to become allergic to corn. Yet its still showing up in some quantities in our food, ...obviously not a good thing, but big money says sure its good.

I will let you in on a little secret... are you ready

Big money owns us all, from the top to the bottom period....
I will even use myself as an example i drive a new dodge car, I eat cheerios and play WoW......I am just as much in the thick of it as you are. Big Money owns the gov, and through money they control the gov. and thus they control us.

Look at factory farms, they keep the animals in such cramped horrid conditions that they have to include antibiotics in their food to keep the animals alive long enough to get them to market, and min most cases with the chicken farms the de-beak the animals so they don't tear one another apart.....and you still eat mcdonalds as do I, you still get foster farms chicken from the store, just like me.

MANY MANY people have written letter to their congress men to stop this crap, but until; those letters start having some real funds packaged in with them, they are not going to do shit about it.

if you think thats an opinion or anything other than fact....then you are completely fooling yourselves.

Krass_of_nod

Krass_of_nod

Bend, OR
April 2005

AUG 06, 2007 07:01 PM

TheGringo said:

JekyllAndHyde said:
I'll vote for the next president, but I'm seriously considering just not voting for anyone running for Congress anymore. Except maybe that pissed off representative from Texas in the video, if she's in my district.


I still wonder why so much money is spent for campaigning to a public whose vote doesn't actually decide the president anyway.



Gringo yer on to something here man smile this is also true

here is yet another point i forgot to mention, the vote of pres DOES NOT hinge upon what the public says.

The Electoral College is ACTUALLY who decides who becomes president, and who is this electoral college, why the very government themselves.

So basically its not the public choosing who is pres, but the government who is choosing the pres.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

AUG 06, 2007 07:09 PM

This kind of stuff is so, so frustrating to me.

It is like there is no concept of doing what is right anymore. It is all about calculation of benefit.

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