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Democrats: Classic Fuck Ups

WEDNESDAY JUNE 13 2007 9:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Democrats, Bush, Republicans, Iraq



After the 9/11 attacks, George Bush had political capital to spend. With his support skyrocketing, he chose to make every idiotic choice he possibly could, alienating America across the globe and becoming the worst President in US history. Politicians do not get many opportunities like the one George Bush was given. But he blew the support in such a horrific fashion that in November of 2006, the Republicans suffered one of the worst defeats in Congressional history, losing both chambers of Congress. The American public wanted the Democrats to do one thing: Get the US out of Iraq. And, not surprisingly, the Democrats took that political mandate and totally fucked it up.

George Bush’s approval numbers are nearing Nixon territory. At this point, he could probably rape a blind 13-year-old midget on camera in the Oval Office and his numbers would not get much worse than they already are. Now, ad that to the fact that Americans support some sort of withdrawal from Iraq by a large margin and it sounds like a great combination if you are the opposing party, right? Not if that opposing party is The Party of Being Afraid. Like the pussies they are known to be, the Democrats caved on the recent spending bill and gave Bush a blank check.

The Republicans called the Democrats’ bluff and they scampered away like the frightened kittens they are. A tremendous opportunity lost. I believe the Democrats made a political calculation – one they will come to greatly regret. New polls out this week suggest the public is upset that the Democrats caved on the Iraq spending bill. Way back in April, the Democratic led Congress had a 54% approval rating, but that has now plummeted to 35%. In April, the Democrats held a 24% approval rating advantage over Bush. That advantage has now dropped to 3%. That is what happens when you play politics instead of doing what you were clearly elected to do.

The Democrats stupidly thought keeping Iraq alive and in the President’s court, would benefit them as people became increasingly upset over the summer. But that plan quickly backfired. The Democratic base, many of who were energized in their opposition against the war, has bailed – hence the rapid drop in poll numbers. Staffers on The Hill are said to be completely shocked at the anger spewing forth from the base. This just goes to show how distanced from reality they are. Did they not see the polls? Did they think they were given control of Congress to talk the talk and not walk the walk?

During the long standoff over the funding, Republican lawmakers kept throwing the month of September around. “We’ll wait until September to see if the surge is working,” they kept saying. The Democrats believed they could use the entire summer to hammer away at Bush on the war and they chose to wait until September. They were totally outflanked by Republican leaders. Now Republicans are beginning to float bills around, different ways to withdraw or reduce troops in September – in other words, the Republicans in Congress will take the credit for any withdrawal that takes place. After all, it will be done on their timetable. And worst of all, by signing onto the funding bill, the Democrats took part ownership of a war that was never theirs.

And make no mistake about it, the Democrats could have stopped this war – by not funding it. Bush could not veto an end to funding. He would not get a bill to veto, just a letter saying, “No more money after March. Sorry, bro.” All Congress had to do was grow a backbone and tell the President that funding for the war would end in March. If a year is not enough time to safely withdraw our troops, then we will never be able to remove them.

Will this translate in the next election? Probably not. The Republican field is one of the most pathetic in generations. They are a group of hardcore right wing/religious fanatics who are completely out of touch with the average American. Republicans will suffer greatly until they purge their party of lunatics.

But the Democrats had a moment in time they can never get back. A moment they wasted. They will now be seen as the “other” party. The party you go to if you don’t want to vote for the other guys, not as a party of action, not as the party a backbone, not as a party you can believe in to stand up for doing what is right.

Reid and Pelosi took it up the ass one this one, and they will deservedly suffer the consequences.

FearTheReaper hates Democrats but he hates Republicans more. He supported them hoping they would put a stop to the war. Now he thinks they can fuck off.

 

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smithers_jones

smithers_jones

Los Angeles, CA
November 2003

JUN 13, 2007 02:43 PM

Zarth said:
And fortunately 9/11 itself was entirely Clinton's fault.



Finally you are beginning to understand the complexities of the world in which we live.

herbancowboy

herbancowboy

San Francisco, CA
June 2004

JUN 13, 2007 03:10 PM



That is in front of KBR world headquarters on 10/28/04 and the pig's crown reads "KBR."

shapeshifter23

shapeshifter23

San Francisco, CA
September 2005

JUN 13, 2007 03:17 PM



After the 9/11 attacks, George Bush had political capital to spend. With his support skyrocketing, he chose to make every idiotic choice he possibly could, alienating America across the globe and becoming the worst President in US history. Politicians do not get many opportunities like the one George Bush was given.



You make it sound as though he had nothing to do with 9/11! LOL...

hadees

hadees

Austin, TX
December 2003

JUN 13, 2007 03:27 PM

Zarth said:

Snottlebocket said:
Is there anyone who honestly thinks that after everything you did, pulling out of Iraq is as simple as just putting everybody on a plane home?


No. Of course not. There are no misguided, mistaken, or unthinkingly partisan people in this country at all.

That's why we're the greatest country in the world. After Kazakhstan, anyway.



Seriously, fuck the Republican base and the Democratic base. All a bunch of lunatics. Our wonderful two party system leaves them all the power because they control the primaries.

Zarth

Zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 13, 2007 03:46 PM

hadees said:

Zarth said:

Snottlebocket said:
Is there anyone who honestly thinks that after everything you did, pulling out of Iraq is as simple as just putting everybody on a plane home?


No. Of course not. There are no misguided, mistaken, or unthinkingly partisan people in this country at all.

That's why we're the greatest country in the world. After Kazakhstan, anyway.


Seriously, fuck the Republican base and the Democratic base. All a bunch of lunatics. Our wonderful two party system leaves them all the power because they control the primaries.


While there aren't a lot of people to the left of me, those who are do tend to embarrass me.

I don't think the base is as much of an issue in the Democratic primaries as it is in the Republican, though - or, rather, I think left/liberal extremists don't tend to be as involved in party politics, making the extremists less of a real base on the left.

I mean, I don't really see Biden or Richardson tacking as far to the left the way Romney or McCain have been pandering to the right. I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that the Republican right wing is a lot stronger than the Democratic left.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

JUN 13, 2007 04:03 PM

Zarth said:

hadees said:

Zarth said:

Snottlebocket said:
Is there anyone who honestly thinks that after everything you did, pulling out of Iraq is as simple as just putting everybody on a plane home?


No. Of course not. There are no misguided, mistaken, or unthinkingly partisan people in this country at all.

That's why we're the greatest country in the world. After Kazakhstan, anyway.


Seriously, fuck the Republican base and the Democratic base. All a bunch of lunatics. Our wonderful two party system leaves them all the power because they control the primaries.


While there aren't a lot of people to the left of me, those who are do tend to embarrass me.

I don't think the base is as much of an issue in the Democratic primaries as it is in the Republican, though - or, rather, I think left/liberal extremists don't tend to be as involved in party politics, making the extremists less of a real base on the left.

I mean, I don't really see Biden or Richardson tacking as far to the left the way Romney or McCain have been pandering to the right. I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that the Republican right wing is a lot stronger than the Democratic left.



Sadly your probably correct at least for now that the religous nutjobs do have a much stronger hold on the Republicans than the loony left has on the Democrats, tho I attribute that to the fact that as a party the Democrats are alot less centralized, or at least they seem to be.

Zarth

Zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 13, 2007 04:15 PM

Colinism said:
Sadly your probably correct at least for now that the religous nutjobs do have a much stronger hold on the Republicans than the loony left has on the Democrats, tho I attribute that to the fact that as a party the Democrats are alot less centralized, or at least they seem to be.


I suspect it's actually less that the Democratic Party is less centralized (in fact, until relatively recently, the Party elite was fairly insulated and reliant on a very small list of big donors) and more that the American left is less centralized than the American right.

Christian fundamentalists may differ severely on doctrinal issues, but in the Seventies and Eighties it became clear that they could form strong political alliances based on social and cultural ones.

The other alliance, between the religious reactionary and the pro-business wings of the Republican party, was more one of convenience - had Johnson not thrown away Democratic power in the South, cultural conservatism could in principle have formed the same alliance with economic populism - as indeed it formerly had been for a long time.

Left-wing extremists, though, tend to regard the political process as inherently corrupt (religious fundamentalists used to think that way, too), so they don't get as involved in Party politics. A lot of the ones I know refuse to even vote on principle, since that just legitimizes an irreparable system. Or something. I don't know. They like to have "rallies," instead.

SignalNoise

SignalNoise

Chicago, IL
February 2004

JUN 13, 2007 04:30 PM

Zarth said:
Left-wing extremists, though, tend to regard the political process as inherently corrupt (religious fundamentalists used to think that way, too), so they don't get as involved in Party politics. A lot of the ones I know refuse to even vote on principle, since that just legitimizes an irreparable system. Or something. I don't know. They like to have "rallies," instead.



I'm bringing the signs and the tofu!

I think you're right on the *opinions* of the far left on party politics: they tend to view the system as basically flawed and therefore refuse to really participate in it. It's a kind of fashionable anti-establishment approach that makes it hard to organize (or accomplish much except quote Judith Butler...). I think far right conservatives maintain a certain faith in America, the system etc - they just think it's been misled. This makes organizing easier.

Zarth

Zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 13, 2007 04:39 PM

SignalNoise said:
I'm bringing the signs and the tofu!

I think you're right on the *opinions* of the far left on party politics: they tend to view the system as basically flawed and therefore refuse to really participate in it. It's a kind of fashionable anti-establishment approach that makes it hard to organize (or accomplish much except quote Judith Butler...). I think far right conservatives maintain a certain faith in America, the system etc - they just think it's been misled. This makes organizing easier.


Exactly. Although, as I recall, the religious right's faith in America is a fairly recent innovation, and was chiefly the result of concerted efforts by figures like Falwell and Robertson.

bald_eagle

bald_eagle

Indianapolis, IN
November 2006

JUN 13, 2007 05:17 PM

Getting back to the subject ...

I keep thinking this is so similar to Viet Nam. Putting 'em on planes and flying them out is exactly what we ended up doing.

The question of what happens to the Iraqis, if we leave now, is only relevant if we have the ability to change the outcome. Iraq had a population of over 25 million, when we started. It's a bit less now, from one thing or another. But asking a few hundred soldiers to control a civil war there is beyond reason.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUN 13, 2007 05:21 PM

Snottlebocket said:

Zarth said:

Snottlebocket said:
Is there anyone who honestly thinks that after everything you did, pulling out of Iraq is as simple as just putting everybody on a plane home?


No. Of course not. There are no misguided, mistaken, or unthinkingly partisan people in this country at all.

That's why we're the greatest country in the world. After Kazakhstan, anyway.



Really, a UN peace force? I vaguely recall the UN having some pretty strong opinions about your little rampage at the start, and they were mocked and ignored.

But now that you want out it's time for the UN to step in?


That really would be the perfect ending for this gigantic fuck up. Unfortunately the Dutch (amongst others) are already stuck cleaning up your mess in Afghanistan, I seriously hope America doesn't get away with stiffing someone else with Iraq as well.



uuuhhh... new slogan:

AMERICA!


I just work here.

Zarth

Zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 13, 2007 05:33 PM

attn_ho said:
uuuhhh... new slogan:

AMERICA!


I just work here.


I like it.

herbancowboy

herbancowboy

San Francisco, CA
June 2004

JUN 13, 2007 05:49 PM

SignalNoise said:

Zarth said:
Left-wing extremists, though, tend to regard the political process as inherently corrupt (religious fundamentalists used to think that way, too), so they don't get as involved in Party politics. A lot of the ones I know refuse to even vote on principle, since that just legitimizes an irreparable system. Or something. I don't know. They like to have "rallies," instead.



I'm bringing the signs and the tofu!



I got the puppets covered.

Zarth

Zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 13, 2007 05:57 PM

herbancowboy said:
I got the puppets covered.


Oh man, I think I threw out my back laughing at that one.

I know a girl who's gonna be pissed at you for that.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

JUN 13, 2007 06:57 PM

Zarth said:

KUNGFOO said:

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Zarth said:

KUNGFOO said:

smithers_jones said:

Zarth said:
See? There you go again - blaming the Republicans.


Someone has to, seeing as they are "the Party of personal-responsibility-for-everyone-but-themselves."


Bush has taken responsibility many times. However, all this means is that he says, "I take responsibility for this [insert failure here]". Then he does some fear mongering and says if we vote for any opposition, we'll all die.


I don't think a half-dozen utterances of "mistakes were made" over six of the ten most disastrously mismanaged years in American history really counts as "taking responsibility."

But then again, I'm a Godless Red.


He said it for the federal government's response to Katrina (kinda). And he... uh...

...hmmm.


As I recall, Brownie did a heck of a job, even though mistakes were made.

Some mistakes were also occasionally made during the firing of the attorneys, during Wolfowitz's tenure as head of the World Bank, with Abu Ghraib, with the Iraq War itself (though only in the postwar planning). I don't think he's ever acknowledged any others.

And fortunately 9/11 itself was entirely Clinton's fault.



You're not gonna trick me into defending Bush. You win.

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