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Democrats: Classic Fuck Ups

WEDNESDAY JUNE 13 2007 9:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Democrats, Bush, Republicans, Iraq



After the 9/11 attacks, George Bush had political capital to spend. With his support skyrocketing, he chose to make every idiotic choice he possibly could, alienating America across the globe and becoming the worst President in US history. Politicians do not get many opportunities like the one George Bush was given. But he blew the support in such a horrific fashion that in November of 2006, the Republicans suffered one of the worst defeats in Congressional history, losing both chambers of Congress. The American public wanted the Democrats to do one thing: Get the US out of Iraq. And, not surprisingly, the Democrats took that political mandate and totally fucked it up.

George Bush’s approval numbers are nearing Nixon territory. At this point, he could probably rape a blind 13-year-old midget on camera in the Oval Office and his numbers would not get much worse than they already are. Now, ad that to the fact that Americans support some sort of withdrawal from Iraq by a large margin and it sounds like a great combination if you are the opposing party, right? Not if that opposing party is The Party of Being Afraid. Like the pussies they are known to be, the Democrats caved on the recent spending bill and gave Bush a blank check.

The Republicans called the Democrats’ bluff and they scampered away like the frightened kittens they are. A tremendous opportunity lost. I believe the Democrats made a political calculation – one they will come to greatly regret. New polls out this week suggest the public is upset that the Democrats caved on the Iraq spending bill. Way back in April, the Democratic led Congress had a 54% approval rating, but that has now plummeted to 35%. In April, the Democrats held a 24% approval rating advantage over Bush. That advantage has now dropped to 3%. That is what happens when you play politics instead of doing what you were clearly elected to do.

The Democrats stupidly thought keeping Iraq alive and in the President’s court, would benefit them as people became increasingly upset over the summer. But that plan quickly backfired. The Democratic base, many of who were energized in their opposition against the war, has bailed – hence the rapid drop in poll numbers. Staffers on The Hill are said to be completely shocked at the anger spewing forth from the base. This just goes to show how distanced from reality they are. Did they not see the polls? Did they think they were given control of Congress to talk the talk and not walk the walk?

During the long standoff over the funding, Republican lawmakers kept throwing the month of September around. “We’ll wait until September to see if the surge is working,” they kept saying. The Democrats believed they could use the entire summer to hammer away at Bush on the war and they chose to wait until September. They were totally outflanked by Republican leaders. Now Republicans are beginning to float bills around, different ways to withdraw or reduce troops in September – in other words, the Republicans in Congress will take the credit for any withdrawal that takes place. After all, it will be done on their timetable. And worst of all, by signing onto the funding bill, the Democrats took part ownership of a war that was never theirs.

And make no mistake about it, the Democrats could have stopped this war – by not funding it. Bush could not veto an end to funding. He would not get a bill to veto, just a letter saying, “No more money after March. Sorry, bro.” All Congress had to do was grow a backbone and tell the President that funding for the war would end in March. If a year is not enough time to safely withdraw our troops, then we will never be able to remove them.

Will this translate in the next election? Probably not. The Republican field is one of the most pathetic in generations. They are a group of hardcore right wing/religious fanatics who are completely out of touch with the average American. Republicans will suffer greatly until they purge their party of lunatics.

But the Democrats had a moment in time they can never get back. A moment they wasted. They will now be seen as the “other” party. The party you go to if you don’t want to vote for the other guys, not as a party of action, not as the party a backbone, not as a party you can believe in to stand up for doing what is right.

Reid and Pelosi took it up the ass one this one, and they will deservedly suffer the consequences.

FearTheReaper hates Democrats but he hates Republicans more. He supported them hoping they would put a stop to the war. Now he thinks they can fuck off.

 

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Davegeek

Davegeek

Vancouver, BC
December 2005

JUN 13, 2007 12:19 PM

Zarth said:

Davegeek said:
Cause it fucked my girlfriend from a few years back.


Heh. I remember that. Salty wench, she was, too.


And all the saltier after America was done with her.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

JUN 13, 2007 12:23 PM

Bladen said:
ok so yeah, let's say for the sake of argument that bush does just take his time going about the war, and there was some kind of attack on US soil. Guess what?? Then we're throwing him behind the gun for not acting quick enough!!



There was an attack on U.S. soil.

Iraq wasn't responsible for it. Al Qaeda was, and they were being given aid and shelter by the Taliban in Afghanistan.

You know, the other military intervention that Bush fucked up?

Hey, maybe Micronesia will invade us. Rather than run the risk of bashing Bush for not acting fast enough to prevent such a horrible event, let's just invade right now.

Bladen said:
This is all political bullshit to help other candidates gain ground on their own campaigns and shoving their own side of the story down peoples throats.



Yeah dude, fuck it. I'd hate for the President and Congress to get involved in that political bullshit.

Bladen said:
AND, democrats were pretty much the majority of who voted for the damn war in the first place!



AND you're wrong.

So very, very wrong.

Trahern

Trahern

United Kingdom
March 2003

JUN 13, 2007 12:24 PM

Fixing the mess we made is the only reason to stay, that I can see; but apparently we can't do it right. I don't know if we're making it worse or not, but if we're not wanted by anyone other than whoever we put in power, what right do we have to remain?

Kohai

Kohai

I'm lost
October 2006

JUN 13, 2007 12:28 PM

Which is why the Iraq war is now in the phase known technically as a "clusterfuck." The Bush admininstration et al have created a situation in which there are no good solutions - you can't willfully smash a vase on the floor, sweep the shards into a pile, and then get defensive and tell your critics that they should know how to reassemble it before they complain. If it were up to me, I wouldn't have smashed it in the first place, nimrod.

Not that we the people are free to foist all the blame off on our leadership. From the start, some were for the war and some were against, but almost all Americans consider it a basic right of humanity (or at least Americanity) to own a car - not that all do, by any means, but almost all would if they could. Furthermore, many seem to prefer cars to be as large and inefficient as possible. The Bush administration enacted stupid, willful parenting for their stupid, willful children. Some children may object to the ways the gas is obtained, some don't care, but very few of either group are willing to make any personal changes in their own lives to alter the need for oil.

Since I take public transport or walk more often than I drive, dutifully e-mailed against the war, and didn't vote for Bush either time, maybe I only have the maiming of a couple Iraqi children on my hands, where W has to count the lives he's destroyed in the hundreds of thousands (and counting). But while it's overly simplistic to tar all Americans with the same brush (by calling it "our war") it's equally incorrect for the American public to disavow responsibility for the war. Our gluttony convinced madmen they knew the best way to feed us; that they were mad doesn't make us less gluttonous.

abracadabra

abracadabra

Seattle, WA
April 2004

JUN 13, 2007 12:46 PM

The Ice Age is coming...

Rafi

Rafi

Santa Monica, CA
January 2003

JUN 13, 2007 12:51 PM

Reaver said:
Ah, backlash.

Nothing is as simple as the Dems would have us believe, and stupidly everyone likes to buy into their sunshine and flowers view and they think they can always get away with blaming the Republicans or someone else for it when the sunshine and flowers never appear.



I'm sorry, the president pulled out the old "if you're not with us you're against us" in the lead up to this war, and you're accusing the Democrats of oversimplifying?

Zarth

Zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 13, 2007 12:53 PM

RhymesWithPafi said:

Reaver said:
Ah, backlash.

Nothing is as simple as the Dems would have us believe, and stupidly everyone likes to buy into their sunshine and flowers view and they think they can always get away with blaming the Republicans or someone else for it when the sunshine and flowers never appear.


I'm sorry, the president pulled out the old "if you're not with us you're against us" in the lead up to this war, and you're accusing the Democrats of oversimplifying?


If seething reactionaries were capable of coherent thought or honest self-examination, they wouldn't be seething reactionaries.

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

Los Angeles, CA
November 2003

JUN 13, 2007 12:57 PM

Reaver said:


Nothing is as simple as the Dems would have us believe, and stupidly everyone likes to buy into their sunshine and flowers view and they think they can always get away with blaming the Republicans or someone else for it when the sunshine and flowers never appear.



"It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." Donald Rumsfeld before the invasion of Iraq

"There's a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people...and on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years...We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." Paul Wolfowitz, 2003

Zarth

Zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 13, 2007 01:02 PM

smithers_jones said:

Reaver said:
Nothing is as simple as the Dems would have us believe, and stupidly everyone likes to buy into their sunshine and flowers view and they think they can always get away with blaming the Republicans or someone else for it when the sunshine and flowers never appear.


"It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." Donald Rumsfeld before the invasion of Iraq

"There's a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people...and on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years...We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." Paul Wolfowitz, 2003


See? There you go again - blaming the Republicans.

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

Los Angeles, CA
November 2003

JUN 13, 2007 01:06 PM

Zarth said:

smithers_jones said:

Reaver said:
Nothing is as simple as the Dems would have us believe, and stupidly everyone likes to buy into their sunshine and flowers view and they think they can always get away with blaming the Republicans or someone else for it when the sunshine and flowers never appear.


"It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." Donald Rumsfeld before the invasion of Iraq

"There's a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people...and on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years...We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." Paul Wolfowitz, 2003


See? There you go again - blaming the Republicans.



Someone has to, seeing as they are "the Party of personal-responsibility-for-everyone-but-themselves."

Rafi

Rafi

Santa Monica, CA
January 2003

JUN 13, 2007 01:08 PM

smithers_jones said:

Reaver said:


Nothing is as simple as the Dems would have us believe, and stupidly everyone likes to buy into their sunshine and flowers view and they think they can always get away with blaming the Republicans or someone else for it when the sunshine and flowers never appear.



"It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." Donald Rumsfeld before the invasion of Iraq

"There's a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people...and on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years...We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." Paul Wolfowitz, 2003



Well sure, everything seems bad if you remember it!

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Altadena, CA
April 2005

JUN 13, 2007 02:04 PM

smithers_jones said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Zarth said:

smithers_jones said:

Reaver said:
Nothing is as simple as the Dems would have us believe, and stupidly everyone likes to buy into their sunshine and flowers view and they think they can always get away with blaming the Republicans or someone else for it when the sunshine and flowers never appear.


"It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." Donald Rumsfeld before the invasion of Iraq

"There's a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people...and on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years...We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." Paul Wolfowitz, 2003


See? There you go again - blaming the Republicans.



Someone has to, seeing as they are "the Party of personal-responsibility-for-everyone-but-themselves."



Bush has taken responsibility many times. However, all this means is that he says, "I take responsibility for this [insert failure here]". Then he does some fear mongering and says if we vote for any opposition, we'll all die.

Zarth

Zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 13, 2007 02:12 PM

KUNGFOO said:

smithers_jones said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Zarth said:

smithers_jones said:

Reaver said:
Nothing is as simple as the Dems would have us believe, and stupidly everyone likes to buy into their sunshine and flowers view and they think they can always get away with blaming the Republicans or someone else for it when the sunshine and flowers never appear.


"It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." Donald Rumsfeld before the invasion of Iraq

"There's a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people...and on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years...We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." Paul Wolfowitz, 2003


See? There you go again - blaming the Republicans.



Someone has to, seeing as they are "the Party of personal-responsibility-for-everyone-but-themselves."



Bush has taken responsibility many times. However, all this means is that he says, "I take responsibility for this [insert failure here]". Then he does some fear mongering and says if we vote for any opposition, we'll all die.


I don't think a half-dozen utterances of "mistakes were made" over six of the ten most disastrously mismanaged years in American history really counts as "taking responsibility."

But then again, I'm a Godless Red.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Altadena, CA
April 2005

JUN 13, 2007 02:20 PM

Zarth said:

KUNGFOO said:

smithers_jones said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Zarth said:

smithers_jones said:

Reaver said:
Nothing is as simple as the Dems would have us believe, and stupidly everyone likes to buy into their sunshine and flowers view and they think they can always get away with blaming the Republicans or someone else for it when the sunshine and flowers never appear.


"It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." Donald Rumsfeld before the invasion of Iraq

"There's a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people...and on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years...We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." Paul Wolfowitz, 2003


See? There you go again - blaming the Republicans.



Someone has to, seeing as they are "the Party of personal-responsibility-for-everyone-but-themselves."



Bush has taken responsibility many times. However, all this means is that he says, "I take responsibility for this [insert failure here]". Then he does some fear mongering and says if we vote for any opposition, we'll all die.


I don't think a half-dozen utterances of "mistakes were made" over six of the ten most disastrously mismanaged years in American history really counts as "taking responsibility."

But then again, I'm a Godless Red.



He said it for the federal government's response to Katrina (kinda). And he... uh...

...hmmm.

Zarth

Zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 13, 2007 02:39 PM

KUNGFOO said:

Zarth said:

KUNGFOO said:

smithers_jones said:

Zarth said:
See? There you go again - blaming the Republicans.


Someone has to, seeing as they are "the Party of personal-responsibility-for-everyone-but-themselves."


Bush has taken responsibility many times. However, all this means is that he says, "I take responsibility for this [insert failure here]". Then he does some fear mongering and says if we vote for any opposition, we'll all die.


I don't think a half-dozen utterances of "mistakes were made" over six of the ten most disastrously mismanaged years in American history really counts as "taking responsibility."

But then again, I'm a Godless Red.


He said it for the federal government's response to Katrina (kinda). And he... uh...

...hmmm.


As I recall, Brownie did a heck of a job, even though mistakes were made.

Some mistakes were also occasionally made during the firing of the attorneys, during Wolfowitz's tenure as head of the World Bank, with Abu Ghraib, with the Iraq War itself (though only in the postwar planning). I don't think he's ever acknowledged any others.

And fortunately 9/11 itself was entirely Clinton's fault.

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