Yep, that third term Presidential race is going to kill us all.

In all seriousness, I'm not sure this wouldn't be such a bad idea minus the whole making them leave and come back. I mean what the fuck? What does that accomplish? What does that serve? If anything it's only going to add unnecessary cost, allow for people to enter the country who weren't already here (abuse), confuse the hell out of people, and did I mention just scare people?

Also, those "opinions" were hilarious in the sense that they were utterly scary.

nothing says competency like a rabble of knee-jerk 3rd graders...metaphorically speaking. No offense meant to actual 3rd graders; you all are doing great!

El Guapo?

Would you say I have a, plethora of gifts?

Fuck...the barbarian hordes of Gaul are going to descend on us now ?

Um...

I have a feeling that illegal immigrants are going to laugh at this proposal. Pay a $5,000 fine plus other fees? Leave the country for a year? What is this. . .the pie in the sky immigration policy?

Our leaders must be smoking crack if they think this will work. Perhaps they haven't figured out that our economy is accustomed to having illegal immigrants work jobs that most Americans will not work. Employers like being able to pay their workers an unfair wage. It keeps them in business. It makes all of our goods and services cheaper.

Nevertheless, I do like the way it makes the xenophobic psychopaths on the Internet drool. Anything that makes them feel less comfortable is a special blessing if you ask me.

Reaper, who else to you write for besides this site?

Hmm...

I don't think this is a "beat down" for conservatives as much as it's a "beat down" for people who are extremely liberal or extremely conservative with regard to immigration reform. This plan appears to be more strict than what the far left wants and less strict than what the far right wants.

That's how I see it, anyway.

Difficult as it might be; try to stay on track.

And unlikely to accomplish anything anybody wants.

I was just at "Old Tuscon" this past weekend where they filmed that movie. Kinda random...

Well, it won't accomplish what the very liberal and very conservative people seem to want. But it would appear that somebody thinks it's at least a decent idea.

It feels like a bunch of divorce lawyers got together to come up with this bill.

"Well, I'll let them ultimately stay in the country if they leave then come back."

"They leave and they come right back?"

"No, how about they leave for 5 years and then they can come back, just to make sure they want to really live in America."

"That's a bit long, how about a year and we'll give you they have to pay the government $500?"

"No."

"Okay, how about $5,000?"

"Deal."

Everybody's happy... right?

To put it another way, it's badly designed and is unlikely to significantly alter the situation in any positive way, no matter what your politics.