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Children Learn How To Be Afraid Of Dying



The Virginia Tech massacre has school administrators across the country on edge. The staff at Scales Elementary School in Tennessee decided the children should share in their horrible fear and staged a mock attack on Thursday night. The sixth graders apparently feared for their lives, so the exercise can be considered a success.

Assistant Principal Don Bartch said his staff discussed what they would do in a real life situation. On Thursday the school was taking students on a weeklong trip to a state park and decided it would be a terrific location for a mock attack.

On the final night staff told the kids that a crazy gunman was on the loose. Staff said it was not a drill and ordered the kids to stay quiet, hide under furniture or to lie on the floor. Another teacher dressed in a hooded sweatshirt and pulled on the locked door. The kids cried as they waited to die. The “attack” lasted five minutes.


“At first I thought I was going to die. We flipped out.”


Nope, it’s a learning experience! Isn’t school fun? Now go to bed and get some sleep.

Parents are apparently upset that their kids were taught how to lie on the floor and cry.


“The children were in that room in the dark, begging for their lives, because they thought there was someone with a gun after them,” said Brandy Cole, whose son went on the trip.


This kind of stuff makes me really miss being a kid and hiding from fake child molesters. Oh, wait, I went to a Catholic school, they were real.

 

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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAY 14, 2007 06:04 PM

SnowgodCCR said:

FearTheReaper said:

ZPO said:
2) The proper reaction to a threat to your life is to ineffectively cower helplessly.

Of those two lessons, I consider the second the most injurious. They have taken concrete steps to raise another generation of sheep.



You should read a psychology book sometime. That is actually the instinctive reaction of humans. People who don't react that way are the odd ones.



Perhaps you should read a psychology book sometime, there are actually three instinctive reactions for a human in that situation: Fight, Flight (run), or Cower. Your average 6 year old would display the third choice, a person trained in self defense would probally display the first choice, and the second choice is the one that most would take if given the option. It is the people who will stand and fight when they have a viable and safe escape route who are the odd ones, and the ones who protect the ones who cower and run. It's because of people of good physical conditon thinking that the natural way is to cower helplessly and not defend oneself that massacres like the one at Virginia Tech can happen. Had a class full of students stood and fought the attacker instead of allowing their 7X year old professor to do it for them, the outcome would likely have been different. We need to start teaching that violence isn't the answer, except when it is- ala Martial Arts psychology. I don't pick fights over insignificant garbage, hell, I'd say that I don't pick fights at all, but I am damn ready to protect me and mine should the need arise. There is a difference between being violent, and being capable of violence if the needed, and that's what we need to teach, instead of all this lovey-dovey mushy-soft society crap.



Sorry, champ. My wife has a doctorate in psychology. I used to think the way you do. She set me straight. You're wrong.

And ZPO, if you did not run when a gun was pointed at you before your training, then you probably actually have some mental problems

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

MAY 14, 2007 06:07 PM

attn_ho said:

Colinism said:
Listen all you assholes that keep saying this was a stupid way to teach these kids how to survive another VT need to remember that our authority figures go out of their way to devise measures that we can use to defend ourselves from harm.



hmm. troubling. in theory youre right, however, better ways to achieve an effect might be:

a unit on defense in a dangerous situation,
a run through of an armed attack in a school setting.
a homework assignment.
a field trip to a firing range, or karate as a gym unit or class.

heres a non effective way to make your point.
terrorize twelve year olds by making them think theyre going to DIE NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!



I can't believe you took that post seriously even after I posted that You tube vid.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAY 14, 2007 06:13 PM

RubberSoul said:
Dude, you need to take an entry-level newspaper class or something. I can never figure out what you're prattling on about until I scan through more than I want to of your obtuse articles. Do us all a favor and move the little content you usually have to the top in the future, please.



Here's another idea: Don't read my articles dumbshit. That's how you avoid something that annoys you, you don't read it.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

MAY 14, 2007 06:20 PM

Colinism said:
I can't believe you took that post seriously even after I posted that You tube vid.



i guess my sarcasm meter needs to go back to the shop. blackeyed
i often dont watch the youtube vids.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

MAY 14, 2007 06:55 PM

attn_ho said:

Colinism said:
I can't believe you took that post seriously even after I posted that You tube vid.



i guess my sarcasm meter needs to go back to the shop. blackeyed
i often dont watch the youtube vids.



Oh much apologies then, without watching the vid it may have looked serious but watch the vid and you realize it's comedy gold. smile

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

MAY 14, 2007 07:00 PM

yourfashionwar said:

magpieboy said:
This is where the American propensity for lawsuits might come in handy. SUE THEIR ASSES!!!



emotional distress, baby!



Ding!

The tort of intentional infliction of emotional distress has four elements:
(1) the defendant must act intentionally or recklessly;
(2) the defendant's conduct must be extreme and outrageous; and
(3) the conduct must be the cause
(4) of severe emotional distress.


SPOILERS! (Click to view)

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Even Mr. Tenet says it's a slam dunk!

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

I'm lost
November 2003

MAY 14, 2007 08:03 PM

ZPO said:
I'm appalled that the school leadership and teachers pulled such an ill-advised stunt.

The greatest disservice are two of the lessons they taught their students:

1) Don't trust your teachers - they will lie to you.

2) The proper reaction to a threat to your life is to ineffectively cower helplessly.

Of those two lessons, I consider the second the most injurious. They have taken concrete steps to raise another generation of sheep.


I've often felt that the curriculum at my elementary school was lacking in teaching me about how to effectively disarm a marauding, gun-wielding, rampaging psychopath.

Necia

Necia

San Francisco, CA
August 2005

MAY 14, 2007 09:03 PM

creativename said:

Seriously though, if you can't get over this experience something is really wrong with you. It was fake, you survived. Get the fuck over it.



Huh. You must have been one severely badass twelve-year-old. surreal

RubberSoul

RubberSoul

Los Angeles, CA
February 2003

MAY 14, 2007 10:17 PM

FearTheReaper said:

RubberSoul said:
Dude, you need to take an entry-level newspaper class or something. I can never figure out what you're prattling on about until I scan through more than I want to of your obtuse articles. Do us all a favor and move the little content you usually have to the top in the future, please.



Here's another idea: Don't read my articles dumbshit. That's how you avoid something that annoys you, you don't read it.



Just because you're borderline illiterate (and ignorant to boot), don't get upset at me, little guy.

MrZablowdowski

MrZablowdowski

Edmonton, AB
December 2002

MAY 14, 2007 10:47 PM

reading, righting, recklessness...
I'm glad I learned to read.

aleksa

aleksa

Tacoma, WA
April 2006

MAY 14, 2007 10:53 PM

FearTheReaper said:

RubberSoul said:
Dude, you need to take an entry-level newspaper class or something. I can never figure out what you're prattling on about until I scan through more than I want to of your obtuse articles. Do us all a favor and move the little content you usually have to the top in the future, please.



Here's another idea: Don't read my articles dumbshit. That's how you avoid something that annoys you, you don't read it.



The article seems to be easily understood by everyone else.

ZPO

ZPO

Roy, WA
July 2004

MAY 15, 2007 02:09 AM

TheFox said:

(clipped to save space)

Yeah, but I have a few questions for you:
Were you in the sixth grade for any of that?
Were you evenly matched - either physically or through weaponry?
In how many of those situations were you an innocent bystander?



Was I in the 6th grade - Actually it was the 5th grade when somebody pulled a knife. I wasn't an innocent bystander in that one. I was an innocent bystander the next summer when I ducked a couple shotgun blasts. I did get the plate number of the vehicle though. Yes, I hit the deck (hey, I'm not stupid), but I didn't cower or go catatonic.

Was I evenly matched physically or through weaponry - sometimes yes and sometimes no. I have both the physical/weaponry advantage and I've been disadvantaged in those areas during an engagement. Prior to my military service, I was unarmed in the gun incidents.

How many times was I an innocent bystander - almost all of them.

ZPO

ZPO

Roy, WA
July 2004

MAY 15, 2007 02:18 AM

FearTheReaper said:
And ZPO, if you did not run when a gun was pointed at you before your training, then you probably actually have some mental problems



What if there was nowhere to run? ie - the person with the gun was between me and the only door or my flight would be constrained by architecture to a relatively straight path and thus make my back a very inviting target? How about inside a vehicle?

If I'm unarmed, especially if I'm responsible for others, and egressing the area is safe and possible - I'm outta there! I haven't survived my life thus far by being stupid. In the example listed, there was no available escape route.

I think you missed the main thrust of my point. It wasn't directed at the students. It was directed at the teachers that taught that lesson. I'll guess they had them hide randomly under furniture in the room. Sounds like the library at Columbine HS to me. If they're going to assume a defensive posture then there are much more effective ways to do it.

No, I don't expect a bunch of 6th graders to assemble for a squad-sized unarmed attack. I do expect the teacher responsible for their safety to effectively secure them and position them in such a way as to have the highest likelihood of survival.


ZPO

ZPO

Roy, WA
July 2004

MAY 15, 2007 02:27 AM

Colinism said:
Listen all you assholes that keep saying this was a stupid way to teach these kids how to survive another VT need to remember that our authority figures go out of their way to devise measures that we can use to defend ourselves from harm.




wink biggrin

A newspaper OMG thats funny.



They actually still did D&C drills when I was in elementary schools. Then it changed to "civil defense drills". Probably about 4th grade they started calling them "emergency preparedness drills". That latter made the most sense since the drill was the same for tornadoes are nuclear attack.

Ah yes, the Cold War, good times... Good times I tell you! tongue tongue tongue

RubberSoul

RubberSoul

Los Angeles, CA
February 2003

MAY 15, 2007 02:49 PM

aleksa said:

FearTheReaper said:

RubberSoul said:
Dude, you need to take an entry-level newspaper class or something. I can never figure out what you're prattling on about until I scan through more than I want to of your obtuse articles. Do us all a favor and move the little content you usually have to the top in the future, please.



Here's another idea: Don't read my articles dumbshit. That's how you avoid something that annoys you, you don't read it.



The article seems to be easily understood by everyone else.



You and the loon who started this thread belong together. Look at my quote...do you see anywhere that I said I didn't understand what he wrote? Of course not...he writes poorly...but only at about a sixth grade level (which is why you can understand it, I assume). I asked him to put the primary content toward the top of the article, like any well-written news article should be written. That way I don't have to wade through as much of his other nonsense to quckly pick up the gist of the article since (like with this one) his stupid headlines never convey the true meaning.

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