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  • FRIDAY MAY 4 2007 4:00 PM

FREEDOM!!!!! ...Or Is It?



Well, for all of you who are from the UK, the Scottish National Party has set out to make history and has finally won the most seats in the Scottish Parliament election, marking the Labour Party's first defeat in 50 years.

The SNP won 47 of the 129 seats compared to a extremely close 46 for the Labour Party. The rest went to the Conservatives with 17, the Liberal Democrats with 16, and the last to Independent-small-time Parties.

Tony Blair is planning on announcing his “step down” next week, as the Labour Party was butchered in the rest of the UK as well, after being hounded for its support in the unpopular war in Iraq.

In an address aimed at setting out his credentials as a first minister in waiting, SNP leader Alex Salmond said on Friday afternoon that Labour Party had "lost the moral authority to govern Scotland".

"Scotland has changed for good and forever," he declared.

"There may well be Labour Governments and Labour first ministers in the decades to come but never again will we see the Labour Party assume that it has a divine right to rule Scotland.

"Labour has no moral authority left to govern Scotland."


But enough with that... the big question is, what the hell is going to happen next? This change in authority suggests that there’s a strong chance that Scotland could succeed. It does seem like the opportune time, as the SNP is strongly pushing for Scotland’s independence. But we'll have to wait and see. As for me, having ancestry from Scotland, I’m very excited by this news...now where the hell is my Braveheart DVD and fucking kilt?

 

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Luddite

Luddite

Anderson, CA
December 2005

MAY 04, 2007 04:11 PM

Well didn't Team America say that freedom cost a "buck 'o' five" or nine?

Who knows how that equates to whatever the hell money they use, but at least we have good news for them. huzzah!

warpig

warpig

United Kingdom
May 2005

MAY 04, 2007 04:11 PM

I'm afraid it isn't like to be freedom any time soon. With Tony Blair due to hand over to Gordon Brown any day now, the English people are still likely to be ruled by their oppressive Scottish overlords. And Cameron isn't exactly and English name either.

When will we Englishmen be free? wink

Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

MAY 04, 2007 04:12 PM

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

Cherry

Cherry

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

MAY 04, 2007 04:15 PM

I am excited and actually kind of sad that I am leaving now that real change is occurring.

Hunkpapa

Hunkpapa

United Kingdom
June 2004

MAY 04, 2007 04:20 PM

The SNP can't form a government on their own, and the Lib Dems have said very clearly that they are opposed to a referendum on Scottish independence. I don't know what the Scottish Conservatives policy is on this, but even with their support, the SNP would be 1 seat short of being able to form a majority government.

It'll be interesting to see if the Lib Dems are able to stick to their principles, and don't cave in to what the SNP want just to get their foot in the door of government.

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

MAY 04, 2007 04:50 PM


This change in authority suggests that there's a strong chance that Scotland could succeed.



I think you meant "secede". It's one of those misspellings that can muddle the meaning too.

gdarklighter

gdarklighter

San Diego, CA
August 2005

MAY 04, 2007 04:51 PM

Secede, not succeed.

theconservative

theconservative

Spring, TX
October 2004

MAY 04, 2007 04:58 PM

who cares about scotland, anyway?

AnnaLee

AnnaLee

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

MAY 04, 2007 04:59 PM

I think that the high number of Conservative seats won in England will probably increase any present divide between Scotland and England and could make the opportunity for an independent Scotland more likely. I have to say, I am really excited about the result and so interested to see where it leads.

AnnaLee

AnnaLee

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

MAY 04, 2007 05:01 PM

smile

Trahern

Trahern

United Kingdom
March 2003

MAY 04, 2007 05:10 PM

You know, this news has made me realise something. I've always considered Scotland to be its own country. Sure, it's part of a United Kingdom, but that's always been just a title, to me. Probably the effect of living on this isle without actually being born on it.

...And as I understand it, it's Wales that we don't care about. wink

Battles

Battles

United Kingdom
February 2003

MAY 04, 2007 05:22 PM

hunkpapa said:
It'll be interesting to see if the Lib Dems are able to stick to their principles, and don't cave in to what the SNP want just to get their foot in the door of government.


I reckon they'll cave in to stay in a ruling coalition.
They did the same in the original Scottish Parliamentary elections.
So intoxicated were they by the possibility of joining a coalition with the Labour party that they abandoned one of their most loudly proclaimed pre-election pledges to abolish university tuition fees.
They'll abandon their principles just to sit at the top table.

Cherry

Cherry

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

MAY 04, 2007 06:09 PM

AnnaLee said:
I think that the high number of Conservative seats won in England will probably increase any present divide between Scotland and England and could make the opportunity for an independent Scotland more likely. I have to say, I am really excited about the result and so interested to see where it leads.



This could turn over in the next General Election in the UK and I really really hope that Scotland's current political situation really inspires that and gives people in England and Wales the courage to vote for a minority party instead of the Conservatives.

Jennifer_

Jennifer_

Venezuela
November 2006

MAY 04, 2007 06:35 PM

Cherry said:
I am excited and actually kind of sad that I am leaving now that real change is occurring.


Really? I don't entirely understand why people support the SNP and want Scotland to become self-governing. I know there's historically been a huge rift between Scotland and England, but what are the current Scottish reasons for wanting independence?

Personally, I'm sitting on the fence on the issue. But I'm just curious about what Scotland wants to gain out of seccession.

Also, on a strange unrelated note, do you have a sister named Alana? (I knew a girl called Alana once who kept talking about her sister Cherry who sounded a bit like you). Yes I know it's a very silly and random question, I just can't help being curious...

AnnaLee

AnnaLee

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

MAY 04, 2007 07:12 PM

Jenni said:

Cherry said:
I am excited and actually kind of sad that I am leaving now that real change is occurring.


Really? I don't entirely understand why people support the SNP and want Scotland to become self-governing. I know there's historically been a huge rift between Scotland and England, but what are the current Scottish reasons for wanting independence?

Personally, I'm sitting on the fence on the issue. But I'm just curious about what Scotland wants to gain out of seccession.



I'm just going to quote some of the points I agree with from the Scottish National Party website for quickness but I think Scotland stands to gain a great deal if it became an independently governed country. I dont for a minute eat up every word any particular party or character says, quite the opposite but I think these points based on the case for independence are nice and clear. With Scotland governing itself it would be so much easier to have voices heard and make actual changes within the country. I'm really glad to see the SNP as the largest party in the Scottish Paliament because they actually believe in the country they are representing unlike mamny others who think we cant stand on our feet and need England to make our decisions, money etc. for us.


Freedom to decide what kind of society we want to live in and how we want to interact with the world around us. The ability to make our own decisions, to earn and spend our own money, and to take responsibility for our own lives.

As a nation, we accept the independence of other countries as normal. We do not think it strange that the people of Norway and Denmark run their own affairs. We would not expect the people of Ireland or Sweden to ask another nation to take decisions for them because they didn't feel up to the job. Why should the people of Scotland be any different?

Most of us also want our communities to have more independence. We want to have a greater say in deciding how our public services should be funded and delivered, we want to participate in decisions which affect the environment around us and we want to contribute more to the communities we live in.

Although the Scottish Parliament has brought a new level of democracy to our country, its powers are strictly limited and therefore there is a limit to what it can achieve. With devolution Westminster keeps control of crucial areas like the economy (including our oil), taxation, benefits, pensions, immigration and asylum, broadcasting, defence and international affairs. It also retains the right to legislate in all areas - devolved as well as reserved - and can over-ride the will of the Scottish Parliament without consent.

On key issues such as economic growth or pensions it remains powerless and on matters as basic as whether or not to send Scottish troops to war it has no voice.

Independence would also give us control of energy policy %u2013 and bring home Scotland's share of North Sea oil and gas revenues.

More than 90 per cent of the UK's oil revenues come from the Scottish sector of the Continental Shelf. So it really is Scotland's oil.

In addition to oil, we have vast renewable energy potential. Scotland has 25 per cent of Europe's wind and tidal capacity and 10 per cent of its wave power. There are huge, untapped opportunities for offshore energy production and for clean carbon technologies like carbon capture. An SNP government will harness this potential and turn it into a profitable and environmentally sustainable industry.

Independence would also give Scotland a voice on the international stage; a voice we can use to promote peace and reconciliation, and fairness.




Of course there are arguements for and against every point you can make but that's a run-down of some of the basic things I think my country deserves.

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