they could hold the raffle to coincide with the kick off of Confederate History Month! that would be a real knockout blow for the south!

at least americans can defend theirselfs..... in england .... in major cities only the knob asshole gangsters are carrying..... and its just getting worse!


-Matt

um, if you are selling guns illegally you should get much worse than a "monitoring". we're hard on people selling cigarettes to minors, and this is much worse.

hahaha brilliant!

Ha ha. Good ol' Virginia. Always fun.

I've read about this illegal VA-NY gun trafficking for *decades*. And it's about fucking time that someone is making an effort to crack down on it. Virginians have apparently been too busy drinking six-packs of Busch and shooting cans to do anything about it, so I'm glad NYC has sent undercover cops to (god forbid) *enforce the law*.

Certainly, law abiding gun owners don't have a problem with enforcing the law, right?

And I love the 'you can break into a house anywhere and get anything you like' argument. By that logic, we might as well give up on trying to control anything. Let's just hand out drugs and guns on the street to children -- I mean, what's the point, they can just get them somewhere else by breaking into a home!

But you have to expect this kind of red herring. The point is, these gun stores are illegally selling guns. They have been doing it for years, and police have repeatedly traced guns used in NYC street crimes to stores like this one.

Wah! I feel so sad for them, just like I feel sad for kids at grocery stores being told they can't have candy.

Grow up, rednecks. If pro-gun activists really gave a fuck about legal gun sales, they'd be the first to speak out against illegal bullshit like this.

If it's a strawman purchase scam, why is NYC getting involved? The ATF has jurisdiction to revoke licenses and throw people in jail for that. Strawman purchases are very very illegal.

The fact that the ATF is not pursuing action, and instead NYC is filing a civil suit makes my BS detector go off.

It is a serious situation, but gun crime accounts for less than half a percent of crime in the UK. I can support having many more armed police, but surely you can't see us having guns to 'defend' outselves without gun crime levels rising? We need tougher laws to prevent guns being obtained, not laws allowing everyone to have one.

Because criminals have the utmost respect for the law, and will respectfully turn in their guns, once made illegal

Bwahaha! You hit that one on the head.

The idiocy of people still amazes me.

The ATF has been sitting on their ass about this for years.

Maybe they've also been too busy with the Alcohol and Tobacco to worry about the Firearms.

i want a picture of that

They are illegal (for the most-part), I'm talking about the UK.

And criminal's will obtain guns the same ways they currently are and probably have even more options to obtain weapons if they are legal. = More criminals with more guns + More 'innocent' people with guns to 'defend' themselves / kill their boss & co-workers etc if they'd have a 'bad day' / '101 other fun things to do with gun'

If Bloomberg are their worst enemy, man, Virginia must be nice.

Make all guns legal

It's not your right to deny me my right to lawful defense. I'm a non-violent person, and I don't even have a speeding ticket on my record. I have no history of mental illness and I have no indications that I could develop anything latent.

Why shouldn't I be able to own a gun, if I deem it appropriate to buy one? Hell, I don't want to shoot anyone, i'd feel like shit no matter HOW much they deserved it. That said, i'd rather feel guilty then be dead. I am also have principles, and if you try to put me at a disadvantage so I have to rely more upon the Government to protect me, thereby becoming more of a slave and more dependant on the Keynesian system then I assure you I will circumvent your attempts any way I can.

Oh, and btw, I sure as fuck don't trust the GOVERNMENT with weapons. Talk about irresponsible, they don't even need to worry about getting thrown in prison so long as they have an executive command.

I'm not saying everyone is responsible or smart enough to handle a fully automatic assault weapon. What i'm saying is that those of us who are capable should not be pulled down by the fucking retards who aren't.