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  • WEDNESDAY MARCH 14 2007 3:00 PM

Tumor V. Pot. Government Picks Tumor.



Let me start out by saying the federal government, particularly the Justice Department and the current administration, are a bunch of fucking assholes. The pot laws in this country are backwards and have been written by men who cram bottles of whiskey into their fat, white stomachs. Why am I so upset? Because a woman who is dying from scoliosis, a brain tumor, chronic nausea and “other ailments” has just been told by a federal appeals court that she is not immune from prosecution.

Meet Angel Raich, a 41-year-old mother of two from Oakland, California. She is in such bad shape that she needs to smoke pot every couple of hours to ease her pain and encourage her to eat. Her doctor prescribed the marijuana because conventional drugs did not work in “legal” attempts to increase her appetite. Without pot, her appetite was “nonexistent.” Her doctor claims that if she does not smoke pot, she will die.

Raich filed the case because she lives in a state where medical marijuana is legal and she believes that pot “should be allowed if it is the only viable option to keep a patient alive.” Also, her name is ANGEL. How much more fucking obvious does it need to get?

The government claimed it “could not guarantee” that dying people would not be prosecuted for smoking pot. Our government has declared that marijuana has no medical value, even though these guys called “doctors” say the opposite. Eleven states allow medical marijuana for patients with a doctor's recommendation. The attorney general launched a war against marijuana after Bush took office, conducting raids against suppliers who have state licenses and even locking up Tommy Chong.

When Raich heard the decision she began sobbing. She said she would not stop smoking pot.

"I'm sure not going to let them kill me," she said. "Oh my God."

 

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Greybeard

Greybeard

Los Angeles, CA
December 2006

MAR 15, 2007 11:50 AM

Also, I believe in the 1890's, a U.S. Government study done in Panama found no deleterious physical effects whatsoever from long-term cannabis use. They had a significant local-population sample that had been habitual users 40 years and more. They did find that chronic users seemed to lack ambition, and would stay with a dull and menial job for years and years instead of restlessly casting about for something better. The conclusion on that finding was that although it could be construed as "bad" for the individual, it was "good" for the employer, and lent itself to social stability.

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

MAR 15, 2007 11:52 AM

emotedcreations said:
Think about it, you can brew beer yourself. It's relatively cheap and easy to do. Not any harder or more expensive than pot. But very few people brew beer. In my life, I've known two people who have brewed their own beer. I don't know. I just don't find it a compelling argument.


Honey is a very moody substance. I bet exploding bottles would kill a lot of dumb people.

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

MAR 15, 2007 03:44 PM

emotedcreations said:

Pullbox said:
Unfortunately, unlike tobacco and alcohol, pot is easy and (comparatively) cheap to grow yourself and thats the real problem government has with it. If it required the kind of production that cigarettes did you can bet that it would be legal and taxed to shit by now.

That's true, but you also have to take into account that if it was legal the price would drop like a rock. As far as I know most of the reason it's so expensive is 'cause it's illegal.

If it's cheap and easy to grow in small quantities, then it's reasonable to assume it'd be cheap and easy to produce in mass quantities.

I think a lot of people, myself included, would rather go to the gas station to pick it up then spend the money, time, and energy to grow in yourself.

Think about it, you can brew beer yourself. It's relatively cheap and easy to do. Not any harder or more expensive than pot. But very few people brew beer. In my life, I've known two people who have brewed their own beer. I don't know. I just don't find it a compelling argument.



It's not really an accurate comparison, though. You can certainly make your own beer, but most people would still have to buy the equipment, buy the ingredients, and go through a relatively complex brewing process. Buying premade beer is *much* simpler, even if it's not necessarily as good and might be more expensive.

On the other hand, all you need for a joint are rolling papers (or some substitute) and a houseplant or garden. I'm not saying that there's not work involved in raising marijuana plants, but not really that much more than many, many people already do simply for decoration or edibles. Thousands if not millions of people already do it. I'm sure there'd still be a fair industry in it serving people who don't like getting their hands dirty, but I doubt very much that it has the market potential of tobacco or alcohol.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

MAR 15, 2007 03:59 PM

malkav11 said:
It's not really an accurate comparison, though. You can certainly make your own beer, but most people would still have to buy the equipment, buy the ingredients, and go through a relatively complex brewing process. Buying premade beer is *much* simpler, even if it's not necessarily as good and might be more expensive.

On the other hand, all you need for a joint are rolling papers (or some substitute) and a houseplant or garden. I'm not saying that there's not work involved in raising marijuana plants, but not really that much more than many, many people already do simply for decoration or edibles. Thousands if not millions of people already do it. I'm sure there'd still be a fair industry in it serving people who don't like getting their hands dirty, but I doubt very much that it has the market potential of tobacco or alcohol.

Fair enough, if you're growing dirt ass weed, which I wouldn't be smoking regardless of whether it was legal or not. Hydroponics require lots of equipment, lots of attention, and lots of time.

And I stand by my original assertion, if you want decent pot the process is going to be just as complex and time consuming as brewing beer. I've personally done both myself, and that's the feel I get of it. If anything, pot fails a lot more than it is successful especially compared to a brew of beer.

Anyway, that's just my opinion, but what's important in regards to the original question, is the time, energy, money spent, and actual output worth it when you could just run to the store and buy a pack of joints for 8...10 bucks? I guess the real issue is what the market-price of pot would be when legalized. That, I could only guess, but my guess would be slightly more than a pack of cigarettes, or a bag of tobacco.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

MAR 15, 2007 04:02 PM

You know the more I think about this the more I think that were I governor I would write that woman a blanket pardon for any drugs she takes or feels the need to take.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

MAR 15, 2007 06:20 PM

Colinism said:
You know the more I think about this the more I think that were I governor I would write that woman a blanket pardon for any drugs she takes or feels the need to take.



Problem is, it wouldn't help. The Governor can't pardon federal crimes. The issue here is that the Feds believe that their laws take precedence over state laws.

And since George is on a mission from God, pretty much anything his administration does takes precedence over anything anyone else thinks is right.

It's fucked up world. All the more so for people going out of their way to fuck it up more.

Nebish

Nebish

San Antonio, TX
May 2006

MAR 15, 2007 06:24 PM

bald_eagle said:

stigmatamartyr13 said:
just another example of the corporate oligarchy hard at work to dispel any truth to the rumors that something natural might actually help you. it's like chris rock said, it's not that they don't want us to do drugs, they just want us to do THEIR drugs. surreal



Exactly. As Bill Mahr said, "If Prozac has to compete with marijuana, Prozac will lose."

Marijuana dealers need to make more campaign contributions.



pfft you're ridiculous! hehe kidding..



xonelovex

xonelovex

Boise, ID
March 2007

MAR 16, 2007 03:53 AM

http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html

This book contains the history of Marijuana from 1619 and up. This is only half the information that is in the book, but its free smile

RigorMortis

RigorMortis

Portland, OR
September 2004

MAR 16, 2007 10:58 AM

I'm of the opinion that healthy, living individuals should have just as much right to use cannabis (either medicinally or recreationally) as those who are dying. I don't think that personal health should be used as a discriminating factor when deciding who can and cannot use marijuana. oink

Legalize dat shit... not just for medicinal purposes.

electrogreen

electrogreen

Canton, IL
April 2006

MAR 16, 2007 11:55 AM

People can get life in prison for pot but get 6 or so months for molesting a child. They want to prove their point. The governments war on drugs is just a war on drugs they dont have the power to tax and sell themselves.

hadees

hadees

Austin, TX
December 2003

MAR 16, 2007 01:39 PM

MschfMayhemSoap said:
Banning Pot was a pure political desicion. It should be overturned and the distribution of Pot regulated like with tobacco and Alcohol


Actually banning pot was a pure racist decision aimed to control Mexicans and Blacks. The reason they continue to ban it is a political decision or rather years of demonizing pot has made people believe it is really evil.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

MAR 16, 2007 07:31 PM

electrogreen said:
People can get life in prison for pot but get 6 or so months for molesting a child. They want to prove their point. The governments war on drugs is just a war on drugs they dont have the power to tax and sell themselves.


I know, huh? The police spends how much time and $$$ busting otherwise law-abiding pot smokers, while unregistered Level 3 sex offenders are running around the streets?

Can you fucking say priorities?!?

-TM

coleen

coleen

USA
January 2007

MAR 17, 2007 11:33 AM

Metaverse said:
I don't smoke it myself, but I have before and have never understood why the government makes it such a big deal. It's only pot, who fucking cares, if it helps, what's the problem ? How many of those politicians I wonder smoked pot when they were younger ?



Ditto. I don't smoke but have some friends that do, just as long as I don't have to smell it. I don't understand why it's such a huge deal, it can't be any worse that cigarettes or alcohol.

soulcompromise

soulcompromise

I'm lost
November 2006

MAR 17, 2007 11:50 AM

Skydds said:
Someone sneak her into Canada our gov't grows pot for our patients.



Exactly. She should relocate to a place where medical marijuana isn't illegal. But i'm guessing that isn't an option for her

alabasta

alabasta

Australia
February 2005

MAR 19, 2007 09:10 PM

I don't think that the health issue is necessarily the smoking of marijuana per se, but what sort of pot one smokes. There are strains of 'skunk' weed in the UK that are (allegedly) 25 time stronger than regular collie weed. A number of recent studies have linked the use of this skunk by teenagers to schizophrenia, bipolar and depression. Given that THC is a depressant, this probably isn't too long a bow to draw.

And I've no doubt that it isn't just limited to the UK. I'm sure a similar 'product' is available in the US as I know it is here in Oz.

On topic: It is truly sad that this poor lady is being denied the one 'treatment' which could contribute to her enjoying some quality of life with what she has remaining. But human nature being what it is, people will abuse any legal latitude given and start claiming that they 'need' to smoke draw to cope with the pain of their in-growing toenail. I'm not trivializing this poor lady's situation, just pointing out that some people will, if given the opportunity, take the piss.

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