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  • WEDNESDAY MARCH 14 2007 3:00 PM

Tumor V. Pot. Government Picks Tumor.



Let me start out by saying the federal government, particularly the Justice Department and the current administration, are a bunch of fucking assholes. The pot laws in this country are backwards and have been written by men who cram bottles of whiskey into their fat, white stomachs. Why am I so upset? Because a woman who is dying from scoliosis, a brain tumor, chronic nausea and “other ailments” has just been told by a federal appeals court that she is not immune from prosecution.

Meet Angel Raich, a 41-year-old mother of two from Oakland, California. She is in such bad shape that she needs to smoke pot every couple of hours to ease her pain and encourage her to eat. Her doctor prescribed the marijuana because conventional drugs did not work in “legal” attempts to increase her appetite. Without pot, her appetite was “nonexistent.” Her doctor claims that if she does not smoke pot, she will die.

Raich filed the case because she lives in a state where medical marijuana is legal and she believes that pot “should be allowed if it is the only viable option to keep a patient alive.” Also, her name is ANGEL. How much more fucking obvious does it need to get?

The government claimed it “could not guarantee” that dying people would not be prosecuted for smoking pot. Our government has declared that marijuana has no medical value, even though these guys called “doctors” say the opposite. Eleven states allow medical marijuana for patients with a doctor's recommendation. The attorney general launched a war against marijuana after Bush took office, conducting raids against suppliers who have state licenses and even locking up Tommy Chong.

When Raich heard the decision she began sobbing. She said she would not stop smoking pot.

"I'm sure not going to let them kill me," she said. "Oh my God."

 

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WADO

WADO

Brooklyn, NY
March 2006

MAR 14, 2007 09:03 PM

schadenfreude said:
As much as I hate the government and all their self-righteous bullshit drug laws, I have to say that the media is doing this case a disservice by saying this woman is going to die without her weed. Go back and reread the article -- it says just that. Pot is going to ease her pain and nausea but it's certainly not keeping her alive. Such sensationalistic bullshit doesn't really help the cause, eh?



Well, if pot is the only thing giving her an appetite, and she wouldn't be eating otherwise, I'd have to think that would be kind of necessary to sustain her, in that wacky way eating tends to add to our not dying. Granted they could hook her up to a feeding tube I guess, but its not really the same thing. I know that personally as a live person I enjoy eating over say, having a tube pumping nutrient laced goop into me. So, while pot may not be the wonder-salve curing Angel and the blind, it really can't be said that it' not keeping her alive.

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

MAR 14, 2007 09:03 PM

Greybeard said:
In over 4,000 years of documented cannabis use



I'm sure those records are well kept.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

MAR 14, 2007 09:31 PM

StarBelliedBoy said:

Greybeard said:
In over 4,000 years of documented cannabis use


I'm sure those records are well kept.

Actually, I heard you can overdose if you smoke like 8 pounds in an hour.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

MAR 14, 2007 09:32 PM

Of course they were well kept because lets face it if there is one thing pot heads are known for it's a strong work ethic combined with pots natural ability to focus and sharpen ones mind like a razor I can't imagine those records being anything but perfect. whatever

Bilharzia

Bilharzia

I'm lost
April 2004

MAR 14, 2007 09:47 PM



Anyhow you just wait and see how addictive pot becomes when the gov can use it as a source of income.



In Canada the governemt actually does grow pot. In a supersecure facility, deep underground, in the middle of nowhere, so nefarious individuals will be deterred from breaking in and stealing it. Funny thing is, their weed sucks so bad no one even wants it.
FUCK our government is stupid!

HeyZeus

HeyZeus

Oakland, CA
August 2006

MAR 14, 2007 11:00 PM

emotedcreations said:

MschfMayhemSoap said:

emotedcreations said:
Um, wouldn't this ruling constitute 'cruel and unusual punishment'?



it would be if the government brought this punishment down on her in the first place and then said, "Fuck you we wont allow you to make our punishment any easier on you."

Hmm, I was thinking that, since it wasn't a direct act by the government in response to a crime. But in a way, keeping or upholding the ban, is a direct act which results in her being in pain or whatever. That is, the government is effectively preventing respite from her ailment (if she obeys the law). Also, does that clause only refer to crime? Or can it be applied to other laws? Anyway, I'm no lawyer, that just sort of jumped in my head when I read it.



I don't see how cruel and unusual punishment would apply, but I'm wondering what authority the Feds have at all? Why isn't this a state's issue? Of course, I guess I could try and read the ruling...

deadvines

deadvines

Springfield, IL
April 2004

MAR 14, 2007 11:02 PM

Thanks electrogreen, I was just going to point out that even if it were legalized and taxed, It would not make the money that alcohol and cigarettes make. Most people would grow it themsleves rather than pay for it.

The amount of money spent on prosecuting and incarcerating offenders for marijuana related charges is a ridicoulous waste of tax payer dollars.

The govt should decriminilize it and only make penalties for use by minors and DUI cases.

There definately needs to be a federal law permitting medical use.


emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

MAR 14, 2007 11:11 PM

Colinism said:
Of course they were well kept because lets face it if there is one thing pot heads are known for it's a strong work ethic combined...

when I used to get high, i'd like clean the entire house. shocked

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

MAR 14, 2007 11:12 PM

HeyZeus said:
[I don't see how cruel and unusual punishment would apply, but I'm wondering what authority the Feds have at all? Why isn't this a state's issue? Of course, I guess I could try and read the ruling...

I didn't really think it did, that just sort jumped in my head without really mulling it over.

But one thing I do know. The federal government can control interstate commerce, or rather it falls under their jurisdiction. I don't know if that is the 'source' of their power on the issue or not, but it could be. I guess. I could totally be wrong as well. But I don't think it's a constitutional issue at all, if that's what you're getting at.

HeyZeus

HeyZeus

Oakland, CA
August 2006

MAR 14, 2007 11:22 PM

emotedcreations said:

HeyZeus said:
[I don't see how cruel and unusual punishment would apply, but I'm wondering what authority the Feds have at all? Why isn't this a state's issue? Of course, I guess I could try and read the ruling...

I didn't really think it did, that just sort jumped in my head without really mulling it over.

But one thing I do know. The federal government can control interstate commerce, or rather it falls under their jurisdiction. I don't know if that is the 'source' of their power on the issue or not, but it could be. I guess. I could totally be wrong as well. But I don't think it's a constitutional issue at all, if that's what you're getting at.



Yeah, I guess I think it is constitutional. I mean, interstate commerce doesn't mean intrastate. If the woman grows the weed herself or buys from a local farmer, I don't see what authority the Feds have. Of course, I'm not so pollyannish as to believe that that's the world we live in. But really, if Supreme Court justices get the case and rule against her, wouldn't they be "activist justices?" wink

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

MAR 14, 2007 11:33 PM

WishRyder said:
I'm not even going to reply to this with sarcasm. I'm just going to say it - I don't smoke weed - and even I can see that the marijuana laws in this country are incredibly nearsighted and unnecessary.

The time/manpower/resources used to fight (and perpetuate) the marijuana portion of the drug war could be far better spent on - well, pretty much anything else.

Pot should have been legalized with alcohol at the end of prohibition.



i'm in the same boat. while i don't smoke pot, i appreciate its non-lethality in comparison to more dangerous drugs.

deal with bigger social problems, because this one ain't worth worrying about.

BD3675

BD3675

Kamloops, BC
February 2007

MAR 14, 2007 11:35 PM

Here's my non-scientific irrelevant anecdotal evidence. I suffer from daily massive migrane headaches. The drugs the doctor gave me either gave me the shits like high pressure soft serve icecream and left me flacid for days, or T3's that just made me all out useless.

For years I punished my family friends and everyone I knew with wild pain induced mood swings because neither of those medicines were worth the risks or discomfort. I started smoking about as much pot as that lady does last year and the symptoms have subsided. Since then my life has turned around in a lot of ways. I'm generally in a good mood, I eat more regularily (it's hard to eat with a migrane), and my headaches are pretty much a thing of the past. As far as the side effects, I'll go with forgetful, and dopey over flacid and pissed off any day.

I read somewhere that the Pot laws were originally racially motivated? Does anyone know if that is based in reality or was I just really high when I read that?

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

MAR 14, 2007 11:54 PM

BelleNoirPhoto said:
Here's my non-scientific irrelevant anecdotal evidence. I suffer from daily massive migrane headaches. The drugs the doctor gave me either gave me the shits like high pressure soft serve icecream and left me flacid for days, or T3's that just made me all out useless.

For years I punished my family friends and everyone I knew with wild pain induced mood swings because neither of those medicines were worth the risks or discomfort. I started smoking about as much pot as that lady does last year and the symptoms have subsided. Since then my life has turned around in a lot of ways. I'm generally in a good mood, I eat more regularily (it's hard to eat with a migrane), and my headaches are pretty much a thing of the past. As far as the side effects, I'll go with forgetful, and dopey over flacid and pissed off any day.

I read somewhere that the Pot laws were originally racially motivated? Does anyone know if that is based in reality or was I just really high when I read that?




I can understand that theory. And i truly believe that it works that way for some people.

But you also have to realize to that THC is also a depressant. So when someone with depressive angst starts smoking it, they get into more depressive behavior.

Some people can smoke it without problem and it helps them, while other people smoke it and it causes more problems, it's the equivalent to alcohol in that matter.

So it just makes me kind of wonder, if it were legalized, and people became reliant on it, wouldn't it cause the same problems that alcohol does?

Naima

naima

Campbell, CA
August 2005

MAR 15, 2007 12:14 AM

Duh, Pot is the gateway drug.

Once you start that, you're pretty much a coked up prostitute, complete with heroin filled intravenous needles dangling from your forearms.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

MAR 15, 2007 12:34 AM

HeyZeus said:

emotedcreations said:

HeyZeus said:
[I don't see how cruel and unusual punishment would apply, but I'm wondering what authority the Feds have at all? Why isn't this a state's issue? Of course, I guess I could try and read the ruling...

I didn't really think it did, that just sort jumped in my head without really mulling it over.

But one thing I do know. The federal government can control interstate commerce, or rather it falls under their jurisdiction. I don't know if that is the 'source' of their power on the issue or not, but it could be. I guess. I could totally be wrong as well. But I don't think it's a constitutional issue at all, if that's what you're getting at.



Yeah, I guess I think it is constitutional. I mean, interstate commerce doesn't mean intrastate. If the woman grows the weed herself or buys from a local farmer, I don't see what authority the Feds have. Of course, I'm not so pollyannish as to believe that that's the world we live in. But really, if Supreme Court justices get the case and rule against her, wouldn't they be "activist justices?" wink

No, 'technically' they're only activist judges if they have liberal leanings. And, yeah, I get the inter/intra thing. I was just trying to think of something off hand.

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