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US Was Pre-Hearing a Long Time Ago



For years now Bush has been repeating his mantra: The US doesn't negotiate directly with its enemies. Last October, the Republican National Committee aired ads that showed the results of “making nice” with our enemies.



Besides being fantastically retarded, the commercial makes a point: Talking to your enemies will lead you to being killed on a basketball court. But unfortunately for the Bush administration, not everyone agreed. The bi-partisan Iraq Study Group called for talks with Iran and Syria.

"In my view, it is not appeasement to talk to your enemies," James Baker, secretary of State for the former President Bush, said this week.


Bush, of course, dismissed the recommendation and refused to talk with Syria and Iran. But that was 2006 and the times are changing! The US has suddenly reversed course and decided to come to the table with Syria and Iran. But there’s just one hitch. We have to pretend like we never said that we wouldn’t talk with Iran or Syria. Even though there’s print media and stuff called video, it never happened.

Reporter: Why are you so defensive about going the diplomatic route?

Tony Snow: We're not. As a matter of fact, we've been going the diplomatic route all along. We're not being defensive. What we're trying to do is clarify, because it's important that people understand that this administration is serious when it comes to the Iranians about a precondition for bilateral negotiations and also for diplomatic relations, which is they can't be working toward a nuclear weapon ...

Reporter: Tony, is [the president] anxious to dissuade anybody from interpreting this as some change in policy?

Snow: Yes, because I think a lot of the press accounts yesterday just got it wrong, and I think it's important to get it right.

Reporter: What is wrong with saying -- well, why are you hesitant to embrace this sort of school of thought here that the administration has heard what the Baker-Hamilton group suggested, they've heard the calls from the Hill, as Secretary Rice talked about yesterday, and you're open to engaging on all fronts in a way that is, you're embracing something that you were pushing away before? What's wrong with that?

Snow: We were so good that we pre-heard it. As a matter of fact, we pre-heard it as early as 2002 if you want to take it that route, Jim.

Reporter: I'm not sure I follow.

Snow: Well, what you're saying is -- this is not a response to the Baker-Hamilton Commission, although it does comport with one of the recommendations.

Reporter: [So why did] Secretary Rice bring that up on the Hill yesterday, then?

Snow: Because what she was doing is -- everybody uses Baker-Hamilton as a talking point. She said, here, here is something Baker-Hamilton recommended that's --

Reporter: Well what's wrong with saying, yes, we're flexible, we're going to try it on all these different fronts, as opposed to going out of your way to knock down any impression that perhaps you're flexible diplomatically?

Snow: No, we're not -- that's -- here's part of the problem we're having, is that you are applying labels that don't really seem to apply to the situation. We -- "flexible diplomatically"? I mean, what exactly do you mean, "flexible diplomatically"? ...

Reporter: One more follow on this. Could it be that you're concerned -- if you are seen as embarking on a new policy, is the concern that the old policy was wrong?

Snow: No, the concern is you guys are getting it wrong and I don't know how to get you to get it through your heads that it's not new. I mean, it's not new. What's going on here is something that has a long-seated precedence. There are multilateral forums where, if the Iranians are there, we're not going to walk out. The Iraqis -- we have always said if they invite us to this regional forum, we will be there. They invited us; we're going to be there ...

Reporter: You're not saying we didn't put a stamp of approval on this with the Iraqis --

Snow: Of course, we did. We're very happy that this is going on.

Reporter: We pushed it, didn't we?

Snow: We have encouraged it.


Four-year-olds are running our government.

 

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Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

MAR 01, 2007 03:10 PM

Pre-four-year-olds.

jonze

jonze

Willimantic, CT
December 2005

MAR 01, 2007 03:31 PM

One step closer to 1984: 'It's always been this way, from now on'

But if they try to introduce Newspeak, well dammit, that's just double plus ungood.

handsome_rob

handsome_rob

Burlington, IA
May 2004

MAR 01, 2007 03:39 PM

what. the FUCK. is up with that commercial?

seriously. that' just the most absurd, cracked out thing i've seen in a long time. are they saying that kim jong il will assassinate madeline albright with an ak47 if he misses a dunk? i'm confused.

Pilkington

Pilkington

USA
October 2005

MAR 01, 2007 03:58 PM

This administration (and at least a quarter of this country) is pre-stupid.

ickegg

ickegg

Albuquerque, NM
September 2006

MAR 01, 2007 04:05 PM

Wow. What an insult to the intelligence of the viewers.

Then again, maybe not. I'm proud to say I'm not a member of their target audience.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

MAR 01, 2007 04:12 PM

I love how 'conservatives' conflate dialogue and appeasement into a pro-war talking point.

Just out of curiosity, where exactly did that 'ad' air?

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

MAR 01, 2007 04:22 PM

jonze said:
One step closer to 1984: 'It's always been this way, from now on'

But if they try to introduce Newspeak, well dammit, that's just double plus ungood.



seriously

Greybeard

Greybeard

Los Angeles, CA
December 2006

MAR 01, 2007 04:32 PM

Once again, I am in Shock and Awe...

Synthiviper

Synthiviper

Chicago, IL
June 2004

MAR 01, 2007 04:33 PM

Pilkington said:
This administration (and at least a quarter of this country) is pre-stupid.



Pre-tarded even?

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

MAR 01, 2007 04:50 PM

I think Snow is pre-tarded.

nothingtonothing

nothingtonothing

San Lorenzo, CA
December 2005

MAR 01, 2007 04:53 PM

Wow. Mutability of the past AND a two-minutes hate. That's fucked up.

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

MAR 01, 2007 04:56 PM

i can't even be surprised by anything this administration says or does anymore.

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

MAR 01, 2007 04:57 PM

So what I'm getting from this is that the White House Press Secretary is at least as bad at basic communication as Bush is. So...why is he employed again?

HeyZeus

HeyZeus

Oakland, CA
August 2006

MAR 01, 2007 05:24 PM

malkav11 said:
So what I'm getting from this is that the White House Press Secretary is at least as bad at basic communication as Bush is. So...why is he employed again?



Do you know how much talent it requires to come up with "pre-hearing" on-the-fly? That's not pre-tarded, that's post-genius! Besides, he's willing.

Greybeard

Greybeard

Los Angeles, CA
December 2006

MAR 01, 2007 06:00 PM

Right now, I'm mourning Eric Blair.

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