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Tennessee Takes Creepy to a Whole New Level

Submitted by FearTheReaper

Edited by erin_broadley

Tags: Tennessee, abortion, Representative Stacey Campfield



Tennessee State Representative Stacey Campfield has introduced what may be the most fucked up and creepy bill in the history of America. The bill would require death certificates for aborted fetuses. Not surprisingly, he is a Republican and a Christian.

"All these people who say they are pro-life — at least we would see how many lives are being ended out there by abortions," said Campfield.


Okay, freak.

Campfield designed the bill so that abortions could be tracked and create a public record of women who have had abortions. The number of abortions is already reported to the Office of Vital Records, but not the names of women who had them. Hopefully after this bill, Campfield can introduce another one that forces women who have had abortions to get a red neon sign installed over their house that says, “whore.”

Planned Parenthood has stated they are against the bill. Jesus has still not said where he stands on the bill, but his spokesman did say that, “Stacey is a girl’s name.”

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BonnieBlu

BonnieBlu

HOPEFUL

Australia

FEB 16, 2007 04:44 AM

Dude, thats fucked up.

swingkitten

swingkitten

Portland, OR
OLD SKOOL

FEB 16, 2007 07:20 AM

Where the fuck is Côte d'Ivoire, anyway?

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

FEB 16, 2007 07:28 AM

swingkitten said:
Where the fuck is Côte d'Ivoire, anyway?



Western Africa.

HarManic

HarManic

Urbana, IL
March 2005

FEB 16, 2007 07:32 AM

goodpoltergeist said:

KilledByLenore said:
It takes a sick mofo to even think of such a bill. surreal



actually it's incredibly clever.

A death certificate personifies said aborted fetus. It's really just a way to sway some people on neutral ground, or steal a few pro-choice proponents.

Genius, I think, whether you agree or not, it's clever.

(If you don't believe that personification is a powerful tool, you must be completely illiterate)



I think it's sort of dumb, actually. (Besides simply evil) Roe v. Wade stands in large part on an assmptive right to privacy. This bill is attempting an end run around that privacy. It seems that, given abortion's designation by Roe v Wade as a private medical procedure between doctor and patient, it would take a lot to redefine the fetus or zygote as a human.

Who knows. IANAL.

RandomNerd

RandomNerd

I'm lost
January 2005

FEB 16, 2007 07:49 AM

CaptainAllama said:
Incidentally 75% of pregnancies miscarry within the first month. Ladies, if you have a particularly heavy period, don't forget to go and fill in all the paperwork!



Damn straight.

DeadBilly

DeadBilly

Burnt Cabins, PA
February 2004

FEB 16, 2007 07:59 AM

goodpoltergeist said:

KilledByLenore said:
It takes a sick mofo to even think of such a bill. surreal



actually it's incredibly clever.

A death certificate personifies said aborted fetus. It's really just a way to sway some people on neutral ground, or steal a few pro-choice proponents.

Genius, I think, whether you agree or not, it's clever.

(If you don't believe that personification is a powerful tool, you must be completely illiterate)



Well, yeah, that is true. But while I'm strongly pro-choice, I have many anti-choice friends who are intelligent and decent folks. They always end up looking like idiots because of people like this.

craftygrrl

craftygrrl

Bellingham, WA
July 2006

FEB 16, 2007 09:14 AM

Substance said:
How many women name the mass of diving cells hugging their womb before they have an abortion? What the hell would they put on the certificate?




When does it stop becoming a mass of dividing cells though? When I miscarried at about 20 weeks the thing that popped out of me looked like a baby believe it or not.... and yes I named him (Harharhar woo look at crazy lady naming her "parasite")...

You know, even though I'm not the biggest fan of abortion, I've never ever belittled anyone for the choices they've made and I've never preached, however people's insensitivty to other people's point of view that is different then there's on here is a bit disheartening... You can defend your view without being an asshole.

Burzum

Burzum

San Juan Capistrano, CA
July 2004

FEB 16, 2007 10:12 AM

parasite (n) - An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.

What part of this definition doesn't fit a fetus?



Hmm..I don't know, maybe you're forgetting that it has human DNA? That it has the potential to be the same as you and me? Calling an unborn baby a parasite is callous and illogical. It's just an excuse to make a hard decision easy, or act like there's no decision at all. I've never met anyone in real life who viewed unborn children as parasites, but the internet seems to be full of them. Try telling a pregnant woman that the living being inside her is a parasite and she'll laugh at you (or maybe worse).

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

FEB 16, 2007 10:17 AM

Burzum said:

parasite (n) - An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.

What part of this definition doesn't fit a fetus?



Hmm..I don't know, maybe you're forgetting that it has human DNA? That it has the potential to be the same as you and me? Calling an unborn baby a parasite is callous and illogical. It's just an excuse to make a hard decision easy, or act like there's no decision at all. I've never met anyone in real life who viewed unborn children as parasites, but the internet seems to be full of them. Try telling a pregnant woman that the living being inside her is a parasite and she'll laugh at you (or maybe worse).



Once again, what part of that definition does a fetus not fit? The DNA it carries has nothing to do with whether it's a parasite or not. Parasite isn't even a pejorative term, for crying out loud. It's descriptive. A fetus is an organism that grows, feeds and is sheltered inside a woman's womb while contributing nothing to her survival. Therefore it is a parasite. If you choose to think "parasite = bad and must be killed" or whatever it is you're associating with the term, that's you and not what the word actually means.

Calypso

Calypso

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

FEB 16, 2007 11:09 AM

Chops said:

anthonyd said:
Next thing is that people will have to get a license to have children.



That is a different topic, but I agree with that 100000% and it should be the most difficult license to obtain.

As for this aborted death certificate thing... dumb.

I got no zingers right now, sorry.



I agree. If you want to adopt a child, you have to dive through your ass for 1+ year(s) just to qualify. Background checks, interviews, home inspections, all of it. Yet, any asshole and his crackwhore girlfriend can just have a baby.

If nothing else, we should definitely tax the shit out of people for each additional child they give birth to after their first child.

And Burzum, just because you want to believe something is true, that doesn't make it so. The definition of "parasite" is quite simple and clear, with no exceptions listed.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

FEB 16, 2007 11:19 AM

malkav11 said:
Once again, what part of that definition does a fetus not fit? The DNA it carries has nothing to do with whether it's a parasite or not. Parasite isn't even a pejorative term, for crying out loud. It's descriptive. A fetus is an organism that grows, feeds and is sheltered inside a woman's womb while contributing nothing to her survival. Therefore it is a parasite. If you choose to think "parasite = bad and must be killed" or whatever it is you're associating with the term, that's you and not what the word actually means.


This is the best possible response that could be constructed.

HeyZeus

HeyZeus

Oakland, CA
August 2006

FEB 16, 2007 11:21 AM

malkav11 said:

Burzum said:

parasite (n) - An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.

What part of this definition doesn't fit a fetus?



Hmm..I don't know, maybe you're forgetting that it has human DNA? That it has the potential to be the same as you and me? Calling an unborn baby a parasite is callous and illogical. It's just an excuse to make a hard decision easy, or act like there's no decision at all. I've never met anyone in real life who viewed unborn children as parasites, but the internet seems to be full of them. Try telling a pregnant woman that the living being inside her is a parasite and she'll laugh at you (or maybe worse).



Once again, what part of that definition does a fetus not fit? The DNA it carries has nothing to do with whether it's a parasite or not. Parasite isn't even a pejorative term, for crying out loud. It's descriptive. A fetus is an organism that grows, feeds and is sheltered inside a woman's womb while contributing nothing to her survival. Therefore it is a parasite. If you choose to think "parasite = bad and must be killed" or whatever it is you're associating with the term, that's you and not what the word actually means.



But malkav11, (Religious don't look):

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Jesus wasn't a parasite. Was he?

ZPO

ZPO

Roy, WA
July 2004

FEB 16, 2007 11:32 AM

gfvella said:
from The good rep's web page


* Born June 8, 1968
* Single
* Christian
* Occupation: Real Estate Redeveloper
* B. S. Management Regents College
* Excelcior College, Associates in Marketing



Unqualified, untalented, completely superfluous human being trying to make something of himself by climbing the greasy pole of politics




"Real Estate Redeveloper" - Doesn't that translate into "I kick poor people out and build upscale housing?

"Regents College" which has now been renamed "Excelsior College" - which it appears he can't spell rung some bells so I did a quick check:

https://www.excelsior.edu/

I seem to recall finding it to be a very pricey quasi-degree-mill of question academic credentials.



Cairo

Cairo

SUICIDEGIRL

Maryland, USA

FEB 16, 2007 12:15 PM

Calypso said:

Chops said:

anthonyd said:
Next thing is that people will have to get a license to have children.



That is a different topic, but I agree with that 100000% and it should be the most difficult license to obtain.

As for this aborted death certificate thing... dumb.

I got no zingers right now, sorry.



I agree. If you want to adopt a child, you have to dive through your ass for 1+ year(s) just to qualify. Background checks, interviews, home inspections, all of it. Yet, any asshole and his crackwhore girlfriend can just have a baby.

If nothing else, we should definitely tax the shit out of people for each additional child they give birth to after their first child.

And Burzum, just because you want to believe something is true, that doesn't make it so. The definition of "parasite" is quite simple and clear, with no exceptions listed.



This is off topic, but I disagree with the child licensing thing for many reasons, the least of which having to do with enforcement of such a thing. I can't picture how a couple could be kept from making a baby, license or no, without introducing compulsory abortion or sterilization, both of which would be incredibly unethical and nasty territory. But even without that, if people broke the hypothetical law and had a child without going through licensing, what would happen to the kid? Would it be spit into the already overcrowded foster system? That would only make a bad situation even worse.

And as warm and fuzzy as the idea of penalty taxes for extra children seems to me (I plan on having one and then being getting sterilized afterwards; any other additions to my family will be adoptees), I can't help but think that such a thing would simply make it even harder for poor or middle class families to get by (and limit their numbers disproportionately), while the rich can continue to have as many yacht club babies as they want, population taxes be damned. And I'm not on the boat that says that poor or middle class citizens do not have the right to have families of their own.

VinnyVidiVici

VinnyVidiVici

Orange Park, FL
February 2006

FEB 16, 2007 12:18 PM

HeyZeus said:

Vinny_Blaze said:

http://www.crlp.org/pub_fac_abortion_laws.html



Well, now, there's a list of forward-looking, thought-leading countries.



That is not the point. I am avoiding being ethnocentric. The point is someone said that in the US it was a moral issue while in the "rest of the world" it was a technical issue. That is obviously false, unless all those countries somehow are no longer a part of the world.

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