bingo! My point, exactly...

christ! are u that big of a reptile? do u really think there are addicted woman out there who think it is perfectly harmless to use drugs while pregnant? addiction is a disease and these people need help.

so then you must be for women in general not going to jail for drug use. sure pregnancy is a big deal but it is a technicality not a superior circumstance to the law. i recall a debate at school where someone basically suggested that execution of old people is somewhat significantly immoral to executing a young person. basically, they'll die soon anyway.

anyone with a heart, is looking out for the childrens best interest, but the mother shouldn't get to brush of repercussions.

people need to be held responsible for their actions

If meth use while pregnant does damage to an unborn child and the woman is going to carry the baby to term then she is doing damage to something that isn't her own body. Jailing her will accomplish at least one thing: that she most likely won't use meth while incarcerated.

I am a Libertarian so I am for legalization of most drugs so I don't agree that this is the best answer but the argument that a woman can do what ever she wants to an unborn child (who is going to be born, I generally don't believe in restricting a woman's right to abortion) should fall under the protection of a person's right to do with their body as they please because by the very nature of reproduction the child won't be part of her body forever.

so are you telling me that an expectant mother bears NO responsibility to care for her unborn child?

i work with developmentally disabled adults. several people that i work with that have the most debilitating (sp?) emotional and behavioral issues have them because of in uetero drug exposure. it is FUCKING SAD and unbelivably cruel to condemn an innocent person to irreversible hardship like that. i agree that prisons and the legal system will not help these drug addicted mothers. i believe that it is absolutely a class issue. however, if you've seen some of the victims of FAS and drug exposure, it's not always easy to find a lot of sympathy for the people who made them that way. i understand that addiction is a disease...there's really no happy right answer here. i hope we can come up with more creative solutions to drug addiction than locking people in cages. but using meth while pregnant, or crack, or booze or whatever, IS child abuse. i whitness the repercussions first hand every day.

so are you telling me that an expectant mother bears NO responsibility to care for her unborn child?

Talking to yourself again?

yes. But going all crazy-right, and throwing them in jail, does nothing towards fixing or curbing the problem.

It never helps to remove a baby from a biological mother simply for drug addiction.

what else do you think is out there?

i am not saying that children shouldn't be removed for neglect or abuse, nor am i denying th tragedies that happen daily when they aren't. But babies and moms can detox and be managed with case workers who follow up with instrumental support like assistance with enrolling in serives, and education. again, not dissing foster care and adoption, buit hte majority of children removed languish in poor quality care

or worse

Bitch-

I truly hope that "smoke and drank while pregnant" comment was a joke. If not, you should be locked up along with the meth moms. Granted, smoking and drinking during pregnancy is actually better than giving your kids formula, but that's like saying a bullet to the brain is better than a bullet to the stomach.

And what the fuck is with all of this Utopian bullshit about "helping" the mothers. This society fucking feeds on this grief and misfortune of others and now we're in the industry of helping idiots? You do something as stupid as that, you should be locked up. If you have so little regard for your unborn child that you risk birth defects, you do not deserve to raise the child.

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