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Virginia Not Down With Young Man on Man Love

Two Virginia politicians have introduced legislation that would force high school students to receive permission from their parents before they join school clubs. While it may sound relatively benign, it is not. The bill is clearly aimed at students who join gay clubs.


"It's good policy to make sure parents are aware what's offered at the schools . . . so they can choose what they want their children to participate in," Cole said.


Cole claims that the bill does not single out any particular club but odds are the math club will not lose any members when it passes. And his bullshit statements contradict the Family Policy Network, a Christian GOP think tank. The FPN is encouraging politicians to introduce parental-permission bills as a way to slow the growth of gay-straight alliance clubs.


"Not many parents are going to want to allow their children to sit in front of a homosexual activist and learn about deviant lifestyles and how they're OK," a policy analyst says on FPN's Web site.


There’s nothing like taking away the only safety net of gay Christian teenagers to make yourself feel good. Should lead to suicides if it passes. Well, done Christian warriors.

 

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aeniman

aeniman

Albuquerque, NM
November 2006

JAN 23, 2007 08:16 AM

frown

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JAN 23, 2007 08:17 AM

It's retarded for sure, but I doubt it will lead to suicides on any grander scale than they occur already amongst GLBT teens. Kids will find a way around this sort of thing, like they always do. Also, lots of parents aren't going to care and will sign whatever kids put in front of them.

HunterSMencken

HunterSMencken

Vienna, VA
July 2006

JAN 23, 2007 08:37 AM

I'm ashamed about living here when I read about shit like this. frown

goodpoltergeist

goodpoltergeist

Douglasville, GA
January 2007

JAN 23, 2007 08:37 AM

In a way I can see it as a good thing. It'd kind of be forcing kids to come out, if they haven't already, which I think is a vital step to not living in the shadows.

But I think it's a good idea anyway because a lot of parent's don't know what their kids are getting into at school, and be it a Gay/Straight alliance group, or Film Appreciation, or Anime Society, I think the parent's should know. Just my humble opinion. Don't kill me.

HunterSMencken

HunterSMencken

Vienna, VA
July 2006

JAN 23, 2007 08:42 AM

I won't kill you but a good maiming is in order.

Parental involvement isn't always welcome or helpful.

zyryx

zyryx

Tyler, TX
April 2004

JAN 23, 2007 09:24 AM

goodpoltergeist said:
In a way I can see it as a good thing. It'd kind of be forcing kids to come out, if they haven't already, which I think is a vital step to not living in the shadows.

But I think it's a good idea anyway because a lot of parent's don't know what their kids are getting into at school, and be it a Gay/Straight alliance group, or Film Appreciation, or Anime Society, I think the parent's should know. Just my humble opinion. Don't kill me.



why bother sending your kids to school then? just home school them where you can brainwash them completely. exposure to the real world is the express lane to hell. wouldn't want them to catch gay, not until good god fearing doctors find a cure. better yet, please don't breed... like I need another reason to hate christians.

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

JAN 23, 2007 09:27 AM

Subrosa said:
It's retarded for sure, but I doubt it will lead to suicides on any grander scale than they occur already amongst GLBT teens. Kids will find a way around this sort of thing, like they always do. Also, lots of parents aren't going to care and will sign whatever kids put in front of them.



Strategic name changes of clubs will also help a lot, I imagine.

sportbikepilot said:

goodpoltergeist said:
In a way I can see it as a good thing. It'd kind of be forcing kids to come out, if they haven't already, which I think is a vital step to not living in the shadows.

But I think it's a good idea anyway because a lot of parent's don't know what their kids are getting into at school, and be it a Gay/Straight alliance group, or Film Appreciation, or Anime Society, I think the parent's should know. Just my humble opinion. Don't kill me.



why bother sending your kids to school then? just home school them where you can brainwash them completely. exposure to the real world is the express lane to hell. wouldn't want them to catch gay, not until good god fearing doctors find a cure. better yet, please don't breed... like I need another reason to hate christians.



What the hell?... Overreact much? He's saying he wishes parents would take more of an active role in their kids lives--I don't see how that makes him a brainwashed christian?

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

JAN 23, 2007 09:38 AM

I can't completely speak out against this bill...or at least, the belief behind it. If these clubs are dealing with teen sexuality...I think parents have the right to know what's going on with them. It's already been established that parents have a certain amount of rights regarding what the school teaches their children in the area of sexual education. I don't think it's that far off to expect similar rights in regards to a school-sanctioned club that deals with a child's sexual identity. If the club uses school grounds...and is a school-sanctioned club...it would have to have a faculty advisor, no?

Should parents NOT have an input when the school is involved in the process of helping a child discover his or her sexual identity?

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

JAN 23, 2007 09:45 AM

Look now your all over reacting to FTR and his brand of misinformation. I mean we can't even read the link to the article because it does not work properly. Tho perhaps it is just the comp I am on at the moment. He is just upset over this bill because now he can't get kids to join his nazi youth skinhead party without parents permission, gays are the smokescreen he is using. smile

ninetysevencents

ninetysevencents

Rochester, NY
August 2003

JAN 23, 2007 09:46 AM

Right. Some kids join clubs, etc. just to get away from their home life. So here we have some kids who are probably at a higher risk of being anti-social because of an abusive father or alcoholic mother, but who might actually want to participate in a supervised, social activity such as a school play. This legislation gets passed and suddenly they either have to confront their parents (could be a bad idea) or drop out of (or never join) the activity. They sure as hell aren't going to stay at home so they're forced to probably hang out with a friend whose parents also wouldn't allow them participation but are maybe much less present. We went from supervised and very social to unsupervised and hardly social. Follow it out even further and you might see early substance abuse and addiction, leading to even more fucked up families. Good job Family Policy Network. You guys really thought that one through.

DhD_No_Pants

DhD_No_Pants

Katy, TX
May 2006

JAN 23, 2007 09:47 AM

I had to get permission slips to join clubs in high school. Except for the She-Woman-Man-Hater Club. I just had to bring the severed testicles of the man who'd done me wrong.

And unless the parent is in no way involved with their children's life, joining a club like that at school isn't exactly the best way to keep your lifestyle secret from your parents. It could very easily come out in open houses, parent/teacher meetings, or even random conversation with the parents of another kid. Unless the club itself is very secretive.

Adarkmind

Adarkmind

Ashburn, VA
January 2007

JAN 23, 2007 09:53 AM

HunterSMencken said:
I'm ashamed about living here when I read about shit like this. frown



You and me both brother. I was thoroughly ashamed when they passed provision #1 to ban providing any sort of marriage like legal status to couples that don't consist of one man and one woman.

At least we got rid of Allen. It's small, but I'll take it.

geo35

geo35

Minneapolis, MN
January 2003

JAN 23, 2007 10:02 AM

Cash said:
I can't completely speak out against this bill...or at least, the belief behind it. If these clubs are dealing with teen sexuality...I think parents have the right to know what's going on with them. It's already been established that parents have a certain amount of rights regarding what the school teaches their children in the area of sexual education. I don't think it's that far off to expect similar rights in regards to a school-sanctioned club that deals with a child's sexual identity. If the club uses school grounds...and is a school-sanctioned club...it would have to have a faculty advisor, no?

Should parents NOT have an input when the school is involved in the process of helping a child discover his or her sexual identity?



I have to agree.

Let's cut to the chase on this gay thing... "gay" isn't something you catch like a cold. It isn't something you can be "sold" on like a new Mazda. No matter how much you might try to sell me on it, I'm not buying - it just isn't in me. But if some kid is born gay, he's going to need some support and a community to help him navigate through that in adolescence.

Christians - people who claim to be members of a faith based on Love In Action - should be helping to find ways to make that happen instead of worrying about what might happen if their child is exposed to 'alternative lifestyles.' It's not as though it's something one might "choose" - like black Levi's instead of polyester slacks.

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

JAN 23, 2007 10:23 AM

geo35 said:

Cash said:
I can't completely speak out against this bill...or at least, the belief behind it. If these clubs are dealing with teen sexuality...I think parents have the right to know what's going on with them. It's already been established that parents have a certain amount of rights regarding what the school teaches their children in the area of sexual education. I don't think it's that far off to expect similar rights in regards to a school-sanctioned club that deals with a child's sexual identity. If the club uses school grounds...and is a school-sanctioned club...it would have to have a faculty advisor, no?

Should parents NOT have an input when the school is involved in the process of helping a child discover his or her sexual identity?



I have to agree.

Let's cut to the chase on this gay thing... "gay" isn't something you catch like a cold. It isn't something you can be "sold" on like a new Mazda. No matter how much you might try to sell me on it, I'm not buying - it just isn't in me. But if some kid is born gay, he's going to need some support and a community to help him navigate through that in adolescence.

Christians - people who claim to be members of a faith based on Love In Action - should be helping to find ways to make that happen instead of worrying about what might happen if their child is exposed to 'alternative lifestyles.' It's not as though it's something one might "choose" - like black Levi's instead of polyester slacks.




Ummm...I don't see how your post is in agreement with mine. I was saying that I agree,in theory, with the bill...or at least the reasoning behind it.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

JAN 23, 2007 10:30 AM

Cash said:
I can't completely speak out against this bill...or at least, the belief behind it. If these clubs are dealing with teen sexuality...I think parents have the right to know what's going on with them. It's already been established that parents have a certain amount of rights regarding what the school teaches their children in the area of sexual education. I don't think it's that far off to expect similar rights in regards to a school-sanctioned club that deals with a child's sexual identity. If the club uses school grounds...and is a school-sanctioned club...it would have to have a faculty advisor, no?

Should parents NOT have an input when the school is involved in the process of helping a child discover his or her sexual identity?



You know, I agree with you in the main part. I just worry about the parents who will cut their kid's dick off if they thought he might be gay.

But then I am assuming that those kids would know better than to present the note to those parents.

But, bottom line, I have no problem with schools teaching about sexuality, but I do want to know what they are teaching.

For instance, I would want to know if their idea of sex education was teaching some bullshit abstinence only curriculum.

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