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It seems both the Wall Street Journal and the Pentagon know a thing or two about justice, namely who deserves it (America's corporations) and who doesn't (detainees at Guantánamo Bay).

In an opinion piece appearing in Friday's WSJ entitled "The Gitmo High Life" (only available online to paying subscribers) Robert L. Pollock says:


Corporate C.E.O.’s seeing this should ask firms to choose between lucrative retainers and representing terrorists.



Pollock is talking about an interview Pentagon official Charles D. Stimson, deputy assistant secretary of defense for detainee affairs, gave to Federal News Radio this week where he shared these words of wisdom:


"As a result of a FOIA request through a major news organization, somebody asked, ‘Who are the lawyers around this country representing detainees down there?’ and you know what, it’s shocking." The F.O.I.A. reference was to a Freedom of Information Act request submitted by Monica Crowley, a conservative syndicated talk show host, asking for the names of all the lawyers and law firms representing Guantánamo detainees in federal court cases.

Mr. Stimson, who is himself a lawyer, then went on to name more than a dozen of the firms listed on the 14-page report provided to Ms. Crowley, describing them as “the major law firms in this country.” He said, “I think, quite honestly, when corporate C.E.O.’s see that those firms are representing the very terrorists who hit their bottom line back in 2001, those C.E.O.’s are going to make those law firms choose between representing terrorists or representing reputable firms, and I think that is going to have major play in the next few weeks. And we want to watch that play out.”



Right. So every detainee is already a "terrorist" and I guess we should all just forget about the rights of the accused and due process and being innocent until proven guilty. There are currently hundreds of detainees being held at Guantánamo Bay, with almost as many lawyers providing defense to them pro bono. Given that every person who stands accused of a crime has the right to a fair trial, I find this more than a little upsetting. I'm no fancy-pants lawyer, but it looks like I'm not alone in my feelings on justice for all.


Karen J. Mathis, a Denver lawyer who is president of the American Bar Association, said: “Lawyers represent people in criminal cases to fulfill a core American value: the treatment of all people equally before the law. To impugn those who are doing this critical work—and doing it on a volunteer basis—is deeply offensive to members of the legal profession, and we hope to all Americans.”



Even Alberto Gonzales, not one of my favorite people, had something to say about the situation:


In an interview on Friday, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales said he had no problem with the current system of representation. “Good lawyers representing the detainees is the best way to ensure that justice is done in these cases,” he said.



Last time I checked America was a democratic nation, yet we are holding other human beings prisoner on an island where the government claims no international or US laws apply, and that's scary--oh wait--didn't we already do this once before? Why have we learned nothing? Collective-amnesia sure is a powerful thing, isn't it?

 

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Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JAN 13, 2007 04:28 PM

For a lawyer to take that position is frankly shocking and disgusting. Mr. Stimson apparently went to the same law school as Nancy Grace. Both are a disgrace to the profession and should be ashamed of themselves.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

JAN 13, 2007 04:30 PM

Well, it's nice to have it spelt out by them, i guess: They are enemies of our freedoms.

earthgodd3ss

earthgodd3ss

Yachats, OR
December 2006

JAN 13, 2007 04:36 PM

You mean we shouldn't be making the rules as we go? Bending previous rules to our whim? Are you telling me that we're not allowed to torture prisoners based on their heritage? How very un-American of you..

Seeing how much prejudice these detainees are up against ... why shouldn't they have good lawyers?

I find it kind of odd how people puff their chest out at the thought of them having decent legal council, but ignore the fact that Dub-ya played a huge roll in the "terrorist" attacks. mad

meggle

meggle

Berkeley, CA
November 2002

JAN 13, 2007 04:43 PM

Hey, man...habeas corpus is, like, SOOOOO last year, or, like, so 1215. Forget pre-911, we're pre Magna Carta. Big bro says terrorist and he knows all. W and Blair said they know all the evildoers at Gitmo are, well, evildoers. Ride that circle for a while, "liberal" media. Just Ask Atilla. We've moved on...off the cliff like lemmings and into the great divide with the decider...yikes what a mess.

Hopefully history will show us pity. But, I doubt it.

bald_eagle

bald_eagle

Indianapolis, IN
November 2006

JAN 13, 2007 04:43 PM

How can a lawyer forget the basic tenet of criminal justice? The accused is innocent until proven guilty. I guess the chance to puff up his chest for being against terrorists was too big of a temptation.

SmellsLikeSciFi

SmellsLikeSciFi

Houston, TX
April 2004

JAN 13, 2007 04:45 PM

Uh...of COURSE they're ALL terrorists! How else could we have legal precendent to hold them without a trial, due process or habeas corpus? How else can we give these people the rights that ALL people deserve without taking them away from them before they have a chance to even taste them?

scorp17yh

scorp17yh

Brookings, OR
November 2004

JAN 13, 2007 05:06 PM

Subrosa said:
For a lawyer to take that position is frankly shocking and disgusting. Mr. Stimson apparently went to the same law school as Nancy Grace. Both are a disgrace to the profession and should be ashamed of themselves.



Glad I'm not the only one to feel that way about Nancy (dis) Grace. Her "your guilty and I know it" a lot of times before an arrest has even been made disgusts me. Unfortunately this seems to be the M.O. of a lot of todays D.A.s as well. Convictions before Justice or even Truth for that matter.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

JAN 13, 2007 05:14 PM

Given that every person who stands accused of a crime has the right to a fair trial, I find this more than a little upsetting.



every American person you mean .

bald_eagle

bald_eagle

Indianapolis, IN
November 2006

JAN 13, 2007 05:21 PM

There have been American detainees there.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

JAN 13, 2007 05:44 PM

bald_eagle said:
There have been American detainees there.



No _eagle. No there hasn't.

Enemy Combatants. That's all.
They're really hardly even human.

Gringo

Gringo

Liberty Lake, WA
May 2006

JAN 13, 2007 05:53 PM

Subrosa said:
For a lawyer to take that position is frankly shocking and disgusting. Mr. Stimson apparently went to the same law school as Nancy Grace.


I've always wanted to see Grace get fucked in the mouth by an elephant...but now I will add Stimson in a tandem scenario.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JAN 13, 2007 05:54 PM

indeed. if you're detained at Gitmo, that automatically makes you un-American! that way, we don't have to worry about pesky things like "innocent until proven guilty". at Gitmo, we have trapped the terrars so that they can no longer threaten us!

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

JAN 13, 2007 05:54 PM

chainlink said:
Enemy Combatants. That's all.
They're really hardly even human.



If fact, I hear they are really Commie robots sent from the future to spread Anti-American propaganda, turn the US into San Francisco, and turn us all gay.

Gringo

Gringo

Liberty Lake, WA
May 2006

JAN 13, 2007 06:01 PM

KUNGFOO said:
If fact, I hear they are really Commie robots sent from the future to spread Anti-American propaganda, turn the US into San Francisco, and turn us all gay.


Turn the U.S. into San Francisco? Pfft. It would be impossible to force that much culture and diversity on the Midwest. Not even robots could force that.

Kasatka

Kasatka

Minden, NV
January 2007

JAN 13, 2007 06:24 PM

People are dumb. Americans are dumb for not understanding their government. Terrorists are dumb for thinking we give a shit about them. Our collective memory is surprisingly short; I still meet people who trust the government, even after 2,500 years of corruption.

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