The Law is worthless if the creators arent willing to follow it themselves.

Anyone to share a farmhouse in canada? Anyone?

yawn ..... so what's new about the US trampling over people's and other nation's rights?

Just face facts, the US is an Imperialist nation (of the worst kind).

hmmm ..... do you think secret torture prisons will help stop the Jihadi'ist? Unfortunately, as history points out, your cretinous leaders think it will.

I'd had this fantasy that someone aducts and torture Rove or Cheney in the exact same ways they have had people abducted and tortured. But maybe we'll all get the gift of impeachment/. Oh that would be lovely.

The Aussie is not very constructive. He should give a fellow ex colony of the British Empire some credit. And Jihadi'ist is not a dirty word. It is a complement to those he speaks of.

If people stop talking about it and condemning it then everyone will conveniently forget that it ever happened.

I've got to be honest...this could be legitimate. I know it's easy to demonize everything that the Bush administration does, but the potential leak of interrogation techniques would be catastrophic for interrogators. I'm not saying it isn't suspicious, but we really should wait before we automatically assume that they're covering up torture. There is no difference between this and every other conspiracy theory and that's exactly what this is. It's more probable than others, but nonetheless a conspiracy theory. Let's give them an inch to breathe for once.

Wait for what? We're never going to find out what the methods are, because that would be a security risk, so we'll never know if it's torture or not.

No , lets not.

Secret prisons ? Secret interrogation techniques ? You think that MIGHT be legit so let it slide ?

These are not stardards I was led to believe my country stood for.

If we do that, we're no better than them. We are probably going to be in a great position 2 months from now (with the house and senate controlled by Dems) and then we'll really know if things like this are conspiracies or in fact, just national security. I'm not saying that we should cut them slack on every issue, but in a situation like this, with nothing but hearsay and conjecture to back up the validity, we should at least ALLOW for the possibility of it being true.

Ok, you edited this before I posted, so I'll reply to this as well.

I'm not targeting this part of the article. The part about keeping people quiet regarding interrogation techniques used is what I'm referring to. Until the time Bush recommended this, they could have come out and let us know if anything horrible happened and they didn't.

Yeah, where were all those people stored away in secret prisons before all this? Why didn't they come forward and tell us their stories?

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By the same logic, what difference does it make if they can't talk about this if they're in secret prisons?

From the Washington Post it sounds as if they worry about someone finding the locations rather than the methods:
"Because Khan "was detained by CIA in this program, he may have come into possession of information, including locations of detention, conditions of detention, and alternative interrogation techniques that is classified at the TOP SECRET//SCI level," an affidavit from CIA Information Review Officer Marilyn A. Dorn states, using the acronym for "sensitive compartmented information."

This guy looks bad to me, and he was arrested by the Pakistani's. There are protests in Pakistan this afternoon. His brother, wife and child were released after 1 week according to Washington Post. His family is frustrated because they can't communicate with him. He is in the Cuba Military Jail.

Well, on a positive note, our government seems only worried about the upcoming transfers from the secret jails in other countries, not about all the people who have been at the Cuba jail for the last few years.

I'm thinking too much for this late on a Friday afternoon... excuse all the words.

You mean, considering they are no longer secret and stories have been piling in for quite some time now? (which is what necessitates this new bullshit attempt at obstruction by the administration in the first place)

Maybe you haven't been paying attention but they HAVE been coming forward and saying all manner of horrible shameful things. One specific case is even talked about directly above.
The bottom line is if they are using legitimate interrogation techniques they are already widely known. No need to hide it. Most of the illegal ones are widely too. So what could they possibly need to hide ?
Think they got some ultra new way to talk to people that makes them just fall in love and automatically share everything they know ? Think it must remain a national secret for our security because if word leaked out the terrorist would understand the " good cop / bad cop routine " ?

BIG flaw in your logic there champ. Unless you have some magic power that enables you to see into mens souls.

Usually we don't convict people based on how they look.