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  • WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 27 2006 4:30 PM

Bush and McCain Put Their Raping Hats On

Submitted by FearTheReaper

Edited by FearTheReaper

Tags: McCain, Bush, Rape, Torture

The new torture bill being peddled by the White House and the Senate includes loopholes that allow for rape, sexual assault and sexual abuse. Serbia would be so proud of us. In it’s current form, the bill could make it impossible to prosecute rape or sexual assault as torture. In order to prosecute torture, according to the legislation, there must be specific proof of intent to commit a crime. Motive is nearly impossible to prove in cases of rape or assault according to Rhonda Copelon, a professor of law at the City University of New York.

The bill only mentions rape or sexual assault twice and both times the wording creates loopholes to allow American torturers to engage in the heinous acts. The bill blatantly does not define rape as sex without consent, which is how federal law defines it. Without fear of prosecution guards or interrogators could easily rape inmates as the bill is currently written.


Experts on sexual violence fear that the intent is to absolve American soldiers and their commanders from prosecution for deeds that have occurred since Sept. 11. Copelon also points out that the United States has been trying for years to write a specific intent requirement into international law on torture.


The bill’s definition of sexual abuse is also very narrow, requiring physical contact. These means prisoners could be ordered to strip, and forced into a pile of other naked prisoners (Abu Ghraib) or wear underwear on their head while someone takes nice photos.

Neither Sen. Lindsey Graham nor Sen. John McCain, the bill's authors, responded to questions from the New York Times about why they are okay with rape.

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Mixmastercereal

Mixmastercereal

Tampa, FL
August 2004

SEP 27, 2006 04:47 PM

Lovely.

darwinsjoke

darwinsjoke

Virginia Beach, VA
July 2003

SEP 27, 2006 04:50 PM

I wonder if Lindy England will get out of the brig if this bill passes? I also wonder why we don't just withdraw from the Geneva Conventions since our dear leader finds complying with it so odious?

SoEffinHappy

SoEffinHappy

Philadelphia, PA
April 2003

SEP 27, 2006 04:58 PM

I'd like to read the wording of bill before I jumped to a conclusion.

starguitar

starguitar

Canada
August 2004

SEP 27, 2006 05:06 PM

The irony of a former POW authoring this bill disgusts me.

yurei

yurei

USA
June 2006

SEP 27, 2006 06:00 PM

oh hell yes! if this bill is as mister fearthereaper states it is passes i am so joining the military! just think of the possibilities; violating bodily orifices with foreign objects, constructing pyramids of naked prisoners, raping female prisoners and getting to document it all the while with a big smile on my face with no repercussion whatsoever! two thumbs up, way up (you know where!). finally a way to get laid without all the hassle of dinner and smooth talk...imagine a race of beings from outer space observing humanity, what would they think? unless they're war mongering rapist then we're fucked, possibly literally...aw man, maybe humanity does deserve to be wiped off the face of this planet or raped by war mongering rapist space aliens...y'know, whatever comes first.

darwinsjoke

darwinsjoke

Virginia Beach, VA
July 2003

SEP 27, 2006 06:02 PM

SoEffinHappy said:
I'd like to read the wording of bill before I jumped to a conclusion.



Here is the version of S.3930 as placed on the calendar of the Senate. Enjoy

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

SEP 27, 2006 06:30 PM

You people are so stupid, they're adding to our freedom, not subtracting. Now we have the freedom to be raped.

AluminumOvercast

AluminumOvercast

Pittsburgh, PA
May 2006

SEP 27, 2006 06:45 PM

I'm all for jumping down the throats of Bush, his administration, and the GOP at large. I do, however, feel the need to reserve judgement on Senator McCain's actions. In my examination of his political and voting records I may not agree with all of his decisions, but have NEVER seen him vote for a bill that is blatantly and indefensibly wrong. Even the war, as much as I disagree with it.

BatAttaK

BatAttaK

Reston, VA
OLD SKOOL

SEP 27, 2006 06:51 PM

darwinsjoke said:

SoEffinHappy said:
I'd like to read the wording of bill before I jumped to a conclusion.



Here is the version of S.3930 as placed on the calendar of the Senate. Enjoy



frown

Please resubmit your search
Search results are only retained for a limited amount of time.Your search results have either been deleted, or the file has been updated with new information.



Oh well...as long as I have the bill I can do my own search.

Cheerz! biggrin

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

SEP 27, 2006 06:52 PM

so, um, we're still the good guys, right?

darwinsjoke

darwinsjoke

Virginia Beach, VA
July 2003

SEP 27, 2006 07:16 PM

BatAttaK said:

darwinsjoke said:

SoEffinHappy said:
I'd like to read the wording of bill before I jumped to a conclusion.



Here is the version of S.3930 as placed on the calendar of the Senate. Enjoy



frown

Please resubmit your search
Search results are only retained for a limited amount of time.Your search results have either been deleted, or the file has been updated with new information.



Oh well...as long as I have the bill I can do my own search.

Cheerz! biggrin



Sorry about that. I didn't know that the thomas site worked like that. Should anyone else wish to take a gander at the bill just go here and click on search by bill number, the bill number as already stated is S.3930.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

SEP 27, 2006 07:23 PM

can someone post what a raping hat looks like so i know what to wear to the party?

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

SEP 27, 2006 07:59 PM

adef187 said:
I'm all for jumping down the throats of Bush, his administration, and the GOP at large. I do, however, feel the need to reserve judgement on Senator McCain's actions. In my examination of his political and voting records I may not agree with all of his decisions, but have NEVER seen him vote for a bill that is blatantly and indefensibly wrong. Even the war, as much as I disagree with it.



Agreed, McCain and Graham might have simply overlooked this aspect as odd as it sounds. They both seem to have the genuine interest of detainees as well as our own soldiers (in case of capture) at heart. I'd like to see if something is added after the intial criticism settles down.

MrCrisp said:
so, um, we're still the good guys, right?



We're AMERICA! Of course we're the good guys, we'll always be the good guys even if will blow up 214,000 people in two days. America can only be good, TERRORIST!

be_elzebe

be_elzebe

China
May 2006

SEP 27, 2006 08:01 PM

F*CK YEAH!

xani

xani

Charlottesville, VA
May 2006

SEP 27, 2006 08:07 PM

i thought mccain was once a pow? am i confusing him with someone else?

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