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  • MONDAY SEPTEMBER 25 2006 7:00 PM

Hillary Falwelled from Grace

There are some rather vocal people within conservative political circles who have gone the extra mile, and elevated Hillary Clinton-bashing to a high art. For what seems like no good reason to those on the other side of the political aisle, their pure, unadulterated hatred for this woman inspires near-biblical levels of devotion (in a sort of twisted fashion) towards every aspect of her life and every action she takes. Well, biblical maybe in the old testament sort of way. The Reverand Jerry Falwell (of "gays and atheists brought 9/11 on America" fame) seems to share this unhealthy obsession with Hillary, as he indicated this weekend when he equated her with the devil.

"I certainly hope that Hillary is the candidate ... because nothing will energize my [constituency] like Hillary Clinton," [Falwell] said in the recording.

Cheers and laughter filled the room as Falwell continued: "If Lucifer ran, he wouldn't."


Of course, Falwell, being the jovial guy that he is, defended his comment later on by claiming that it was all just a joke.

Falwell told The Associated Press on Sunday that he did not intend to demonize the former first lady. "That was totally tongue-in-cheek, and everyone in the building knew that, and everyone laughed," he said.


Of course! Hillary Clinton is a public figure, and public figures, by virtue of their being public, allow themselves to be exposed to ridiculing comparisons and satire right? It's a first amendment guarantee.

Except that Falwell himself, in a 1988 lawsuit, made the exact opposite claim when suing Hustler magazine for printing a cartoon that portrayed him as having "drunken, incestuous sex with his mother in an outhouse." Larry Flynt, Hustler's outspoken publisher, appealed the case to the Supreme Court and won in a unaninmous decision that pushed forward first amendment rights. Falwell was so distressed that this cartoon might make him look bad that he took Hustler to court. Given the context and Falwell's own background it's hard to conceive of a more striking insult from the man than a direct comparison with the devil, but this time everyone is supposed to laugh it off as Falwell having fun.

Fortunately Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, has had a considerably more subdued response.

Clinton press secretary Philippe Reines told AP on Sunday, "Working for someone who believes in the Golden Rule, we're not going to engage in such vitriolic discourse, but it seems that a new low has been reached in demonizing political opponents."


At least one person between Clinton and Falwell can claim the moral high ground.

 
Comments
skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

SEP 25, 2006 07:14 PM

"I certainly hope that Hillary is the candidate ... because nothing will energize my [constituency] like Hillary Clinton," [Falwell] said in the recording.


Cheers and laughter filled the room as Falwell continued: "If Lucifer ran, he wouldn't."



Let's call his bluff!

Eliminate the middle man : Vote Satan in 2008!

And since when did an unelected religious lunatic demagogue have a "constituency?"

DieWhiteGirls

DieWhiteGirls

Madison, WI
July 2005

SEP 25, 2006 08:40 PM

skeptik said:

"I certainly hope that Hillary is the candidate ... because nothing will energize my [constituency] like Hillary Clinton," [Falwell] said in the recording.


Cheers and laughter filled the room as Falwell continued: "If Lucifer ran, he wouldn't."



Let's call his bluff!

Eliminate the middle man : Vote Satan in 2008!

And since when did an unelected religious lunatic demagogue have a "constituency?"



Since said person's head is so far up his ass that he truly believes the shit that he's spewing makes sense. He also believes that G-d himself wants him to be right in everything that he says, so his idiot followers will follow like sheep.

JackMD

JackMD

Vashon, WA
June 2004

SEP 25, 2006 10:03 PM

skeptik said:

"I certainly hope that Hillary is the candidate ... because nothing will energize my [constituency] like Hillary Clinton," [Falwell] said in the recording.


Cheers and laughter filled the room as Falwell continued: "If Lucifer ran, he wouldn't."



Let's call his bluff!

Eliminate the middle man : Vote Satan in 2008!

And since when did an unelected religious lunatic demagogue have a "constituency?"


I'm leaning Satan 2008 right now, I like an honest man.

JackMD

JackMD

Vashon, WA
June 2004

SEP 25, 2006 10:03 PM

JackR said:

skeptik said:
"I certainly hope that Hillary is the candidate ... because nothing will energize my [constituency] like Hillary Clinton," [Falwell] said in the recording.


Cheers and laughter filled the room as Falwell continued: "If Lucifer ran, he wouldn't."



Let's call his bluff!

Eliminate the middle man : Vote Satan in 2008!

And since when did an unelected religious lunatic demagogue have a "constituency?"


Satanism is the new democracy

Uncle_Screwtape

Uncle_Screwtape

Los Angeles, CA
February 2004

SEP 25, 2006 10:52 PM

I don't understand the importance of these remarks. I hate Falwell (and admire Flynt) as much as anyone here, but those remarks do seem very tongue-in-cheek, and can hardly be equated with saying, even in jest, that someone fucked his mother in an outhouse.

They're also true. Hillary's candidacy would be better for these people than Gay Marriage, Mexicans and The War on Christmas all put together. It would drive every right-wing Christian in this country screaming tooth-gnashing mad. 2000 and 2004 would look, by comparison, like the very models of secular, honest democracy.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

SEP 26, 2006 08:47 AM

This is coming from the man that blamed 9-11 on gays and lesbians and tried to out a Teletubby.

I personally don't give credence to anything he says.

-TM

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

SEP 26, 2006 08:54 AM

Hillary is not my ideal candidate, but I fully support anyone who draws the ire of that asshole.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

SEP 26, 2006 09:32 AM

so people flip when chavez calls bush the devil, but when a local fanatic says that a political opponent is worse than satan everyone has a good giggle. interesting.

MschfMayhemSoap

MschfMayhemSoap

Phoenix, AZ
April 2006

SEP 26, 2006 10:41 AM

I say Hilary should sue him, SOLELY for the purpose of hitting him with his own failed Lawsuit when Falwell argues for his first amendment right to jest. That way it's on the pubilc record of the Court that Falwell is a complete jackass.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
Or at least thats what Id do. I would go THAT far to bitch slap a complete asswipe. tongue

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

SEP 26, 2006 10:53 AM

MrCrisp said:
so people flip when chavez calls bush the devil, but when a local fanatic says that a political opponent is worse than satan everyone has a good giggle. interesting.



well , Jerry calling Hillary the devil is WAY more like a funny caricature.

Chavez comments are just too real.

It's spooky.

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

SEP 26, 2006 12:31 PM

The thing about Chavez's comments is that with another President, even someone as over-the-top as he is wouldn't have made him.

Bush's disastrous foreign policy and tendency towards verbailzing blatant stupidity doesn't just give Chavez cover to say and do things like that, it actually got him a few cheers from the General Assembly.

The political shifts in South America are another side-effect of the Bush presidency. We've largely ignored them during his two terms. We've been too absorbed with the Middle East and the "Axis of Evil." While I don't think that lefty democracies that help educate and feed the people down there will be a bad thing (hopefully getting smart and shifting gears in a more market-based direction once the educational improvements get the populace in a position to actually be successful in that direction), we've also right now got the Chinese chumming up with Central and South American governments in a big way.

Chavez's mouth is kind of a dual-edged sword though. His putting his two cents in has actually cost some of the leftist opposition leaders votes in recent elections, even possibly costing them the election. So basically, while Chavez is currently our second worst enemy in the hemisphere, he's an even better "friend" than Castro inasfar as helping pro-U.S. candidates win elections.

China is the world's fastest-growing economy, and basically the world's largest. They're after South America's resources, though not really their markets just yet. South Americans are seeing their economic future, and it's a good bit more Chinese than American.