education be the devil

When are the retards in charge going to realize that religion is obsolete, counter-productive and needs to be done away with, if for no reason than to find new excuses to kill each other.

I... um.... well... at least you seem to be who you say you are.

OK...as others have said, Creationism is not science. No matter how badly you want it to be. Some may try to offer proofs but these tend to by exercises in deductive reasoning colored by faith or emotionally based observation. That makes them Mythology. At best it becomes the conjecture of Intelligent Design which justifies the science of Evolution with the omnipotence of God.(disclosure: My cousin is a chemical engineer. He has also written a book in support of Intelligent Design called "Deductive Theology")
If you would suggest that we teach Creationism in a class that included the creation stories from all cultures and religions; I would heartily support you & probably take the class. As it is, I went to a Baptist day school as a child and was literally told that dinosaur skeletons were fakes created by godless scientists. While we used standard science text books, any chapter or experiment that suggest any connection to Evolution was omitted from the curriculum. We also read the Bible. Would these be the good "old days" you are referring to? Or perhaps you'd like to go back a little further. To when that same text was used not only to teach us to read, but to also reinforce oppressive social delineations based upon gender, race, sexual preference, contrary belief system, or what silly hat you were wearing.
I would suggest, sir, that the Church should be removed from everything. The church already has its place. It is its place. While I will agree that faith & personal/cultural belief in a higher power have been some of the contributors to societal development, I would also suggest that they have also been some of the most prevalent oppressors and deniers of fact. If you agree that theology should be an aspect of our education, then we must provide exposure to all theologies in order to educate. If not, we are only indoctrinating.

Believe it or not, people have been saying this for literally thousands of years. The reason it hasn't happened is because it isn't true. Religion may be bullshit, but it still plays an important part in the lives of the majority of people out there.

Mine didn't and I went to a huge, academically recognized school in Houston.

cough.

we're not stopping you from practicing your religion, we're only disagreeing with the integration of it into our schools and government.

it's not like us liberals are god hating people, either. i went to a catholic high school, okay? we had a class especially for catholocism, weekly mass, and a number of science classes (which not only taught evolution as established fact, but also allowed views that directly contradicted church teachings).

Umkay, let's look at the Roman's why don't we?

Wanna tell me where the religion was removed from the society of Rome and science took over?

Some would argue that, in fact, it was the conjoining of the state with Christian religion that contributed to the fall of Rome.

But, while we are at it, can you tell me exaclty how we are "like" the Romans? 'Cause I am just not seeing it.

Join me in my vomitorium, and I'll explain it all to you.

I have a lot of friends from Houston, and they all had classes in their high school that taught the Bible as literature, as well as social studies classes that discussed the major tenets of the world religions. I'm not sure how you could have a history or English lit program that didn't deal with either of those subjects.

Anyone notice on the grant list that 26.1399 still lists as Ecology, Evolution, Systematics and Population Biology, Other?

I mean yeah, maybe it's a conspiracy, but if it is, they were too dumb to notice that all of 26.13xx is listed as Ecology, Evolution, Systematics and Population Biology and there is a catch-all category for people in that department...

I'm just glad that someone's representin' the California religious whacko contingent that many in that state would like to pretend doesn't exist.

this openmindedness is one of the reasons I converted from protestant to Catholic in college.

I think what we have here is a misunderstanding. I thought you meant that there were particular classes devoted to things like world religion. Yes, we had a 'social studies' class, but it went over more of the political than religious beliefs of other nations. And we in no way shape or form had a class that taught the Bible. In fact, for a while, prayer groups in my school were not permitted to gather around the flag pole in the morning for prayers. Even though I, myself, am not a practicing Christian, I signed a petition granting them the rights to pray in school as long as they were not openly 'recruiting' other students or disrupting classes in any way.

You couldn't pray in my school either, but you could teach the Bible as literature, just not as fact. Almost all AP English classes will deal with the Bible in some way. I'm sure your school did too.
Teaching the Bible as literature is NOT the same as "teaching the Bible"