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More Dirty Tricks From The Jesus People

Submitted by FearTheReaper

Edited by FearTheReaper

Tags: Bush, Evolution, intelligent design, Department of Education

We have a president who believes intelligent design should be taught in school because he is a crazy evangelical. And now suddenly, and without explanation, evolutionary biology has disappeared from a grant list of acceptable fields of study for low-income college students. Poof! Gone.

The Department of Education insists the removal was an accident and the major should be on the list. The omission was discovered on August 15th but it still has not been corrected. Not having evolutionary biology on the list has a great impact. If any major is not on the list, students cannot get grants unless they declare another major.

The list is specifically designed so majors cannot be left off. Each major is assigned a number, which translates to a code. That code must be used to pick a major or grants will not be given. A major cannot just be written into the list. Evolutionary biology is assigned the number 26.1303. But currently between marine biology 26.1302, and aquatic biology 26.1304, is an empty space.

The omission concerns scientists who are already upset about attacks on the teaching of evolution in schools. An anonymous source at the Department of Education drew professor Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss’ attention to the matter but was too worried about being identified to blow the whistle on their own. Given the current climate many scientists do not believe the removal was a clerical error.


Dr. Krauss said: “Removing that one major is not going to make the nation stupid, but if this really was removed, specifically removed, then I see it as part of a pattern to put ideology over knowledge. And, especially in the Department of Education, that should be abhorred.”

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Rwb0169

Rwb0169

Cambridge, MA
March 2006

AUG 25, 2006 01:17 AM

is anyone really suprised? the thing that suprises me is that it took so long to get it removed.



zoton

zoton

Kuwait
November 2005

AUG 25, 2006 03:18 AM

error my big fat ass !

he's learning tricks from middle eastern governements. The developmental biology unti in kuwait is now under the "hypothetical and philosophical sciences" (fer reallz that's what they call it) dept at kuwait U. The only other choice the faculty had was to be placed under the biology dept. So there is no developmental biology degree in kuwait anymore.

If the bastard had 10 years he'd do the same in the states but this is porlly the closest he can get to it !

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

AUG 25, 2006 05:08 AM

You know, if this site is afraid to post a set because they have a very justified reason for believing they could face prosecution for putting it up, that seems pretty god-damn "banned" to me.

Billy8

Billy8

Casper, WY
April 2004

AUG 25, 2006 05:30 AM

Kind of like the clerical error in counting the votes in 2000/2004 that put the shrub in the white House! wink

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

AUG 25, 2006 05:59 AM

AnnaKarina said:
a error?? when president b. said it long time before??? and other school district wanted to do this for long???
yes i m a believer puke



It is an error to praise a god/goddess.

troublekicker

troublekicker

I'm lost
March 2006

AUG 25, 2006 06:27 AM

We don't need no freakin science. Anything thats' wrong with you can be cured with bleedings or leeches or some other biblically correct method. In fact that may be the solution to the health care crisis too. Leeches are cheap and plentiful at all levels of government.

Alecks

Alecks

Visalia, CA
October 2004

AUG 25, 2006 06:30 AM

amen Dr Krauss! er, rather i concur

=-> Alecks

Idjit

Idjit

HOPEFUL

I'm lost

AUG 25, 2006 06:49 AM

jake_lex said:
You know, if this site is afraid to post a set because they have a very justified reason for believing they could face prosecution for putting it up, that seems pretty god-damn "banned" to me.



And if they choose to take down an entire set instead of removing the last 5 images (which are the only ones breaking any sorts of rules), what then? What if I was to tell you that two versions of the set were actually submitted - one with the offending subject matter, and one without?

The removing of the photos in the manner they went about it was a political statement. That's certainly SG's prerogative, of course.

Eternalxile

Eternalxile

Irving, TX
March 2003

AUG 25, 2006 06:55 AM

emotedcreations said:

magpieboy said:
yeah, fuck that shit. Clerical error... I'll show you a "clerical error". This frightens me, mostly because as a biologist I realize HOW important it is to understand and study evolution, and because I realize how few people out there actually have a clue or can divorce the issue of evolution from the issue of their faith. Dobzhansy: "Nothing in biology makes sense except in light of evolution" or something near that. And they want to take money away from people who want to study it. Sorry... this is just a rant. I don't want to be paranoid, but I think I am now... it's WAY to close to home for me.



Also as a scientist, I understand your passion. Evolution is the simplest and most effeicient way of understanding the course of natural history and it's variety of forms. But you forget, that's just the Devil tricking you. I KNOW, as a matter of course, he put 'dem dinasour bones there to make yer head reel, and tuh confoose you-- all 'cause he hates the big man upstairs.

Remember, simplest explanation--clerical error. Right? I'm right? Right? There's no way THEY could be that bold? There out to get us! Ahhh...But then again, just 'cause you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. te hehehehe




Actually the bible thumpers stance on dinosaurs has changed from "The devil put them there to confuse us" to "God created dinosaurs and they existed in the garden of eden peacefully with adam and eve" Just like in The Flintstones.

NewSpectre

NewSpectre

Baltimore, MD
March 2005

AUG 25, 2006 06:58 AM

Eternalxile said:

emotedcreations said:

magpieboy said:
yeah, fuck that shit. Clerical error... I'll show you a "clerical error". This frightens me, mostly because as a biologist I realize HOW important it is to understand and study evolution, and because I realize how few people out there actually have a clue or can divorce the issue of evolution from the issue of their faith. Dobzhansy: "Nothing in biology makes sense except in light of evolution" or something near that. And they want to take money away from people who want to study it. Sorry... this is just a rant. I don't want to be paranoid, but I think I am now... it's WAY to close to home for me.



Also as a scientist, I understand your passion. Evolution is the simplest and most effeicient way of understanding the course of natural history and it's variety of forms. But you forget, that's just the Devil tricking you. I KNOW, as a matter of course, he put 'dem dinasour bones there to make yer head reel, and tuh confoose you-- all 'cause he hates the big man upstairs.

Remember, simplest explanation--clerical error. Right? I'm right? Right? There's no way THEY could be that bold? There out to get us! Ahhh...But then again, just 'cause you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. te hehehehe




Actually the bible thumpers stance on dinosaurs has changed from "The devil put them there to confuse us" to "God created dinosaurs and they existed in the garden of eden peacefully with adam and eve" Just like in The Flintstones.



I can't say that I've actually ever heard anybody say either of those.

Eternalxile

Eternalxile

Irving, TX
March 2003

AUG 25, 2006 07:27 AM

That's because you don't live in the American "Bible Belt", where "The word of God is the law of the land" and more people believe that the Bible is 100% fact than they belive a high school science text book is 100% fact.

01_Conservative

01_Conservative

San Diego, CA
March 2004

AUG 25, 2006 08:09 AM

You know it is amazing that we can teach evolution but we cannot teach creationism. I understand the separation between church and state but that it sort of like teaching what the republican party is all about but not teaching what the democrats are about. Wouldn't that cause a major up roar? With that said there should be equal time given to both subject matters. Yes evolution is a good thing to be taught but we don't know how the world started and both theories and that is all they are are theories should be given equal time.

In the old days when people did go to church, the bible is what kids learned to read on. Even in schools folks that is right kids at the turn of the century and before did not read about Dick and Jane, they read excerpts from the bible, in school. Can you believe it and they are the people that built this great country and made it what it is today. There's no way that can't be, our society was so good back then, there's no way they could have read the bible.

So all you screaming liberals out there that are removing the church from everything understand that you are destroying our country and our society. That is a fact. When religion begins to be removed from society and science takes over that is the beginning of the end. If you don't believe me look at all the great societies of the past, the Romans are the best to look at because we are the most like them and we are walking down the same path.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

AUG 25, 2006 08:11 AM

emotedcreations said:
My first reaction is that this response might be slightly paranoid, but then again, it's rather interesting that it was 'evolutionary biology' and not 'mesoamerican art history' or some other less controversial topic. Hmmm? What to think? What to think? This would certainly be a bold move on the part of certain parties. I think we need some more information. Anyone feel like dragging it up?

The world is so crazy. In the same day I can read this story, and one about non-damaging embryonic stem cell research.



seriously...



The issue in America these days is never whether or not you are paranoid. It is "are you paranoid enough?'

Idjit

Idjit

HOPEFUL

I'm lost

AUG 25, 2006 08:13 AM

conservative said:
You know it is amazing that we can teach evolution but we cannot teach creationism.



You can teach creationism, just not in a science class. Creationism isn't science.

NewSpectre

NewSpectre

Baltimore, MD
March 2005

AUG 25, 2006 08:14 AM

Eternalxile said:
That's because you don't live in the American "Bible Belt", where "The word of God is the law of the land" and more people believe that the Bible is 100% fact than they belive a high school science text book is 100% fact.



Actually I was born in San Antonio, went to elementry school in Texas, Illinios, and Florida, middle school in Florida and Arkansas, and high school in Arkansas. Then I went to college at Texas A&M, arguably one of the most conservative schools in the country.

So I have a pretty solid base of reference.

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