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  • WEDNESDAY AUGUST 23 2006 7:30 PM

Next Conservative Target: Hotel Porn

Despite massive politlcal setbacks in the conservative movement, with Democrats looking in the best shape in many years for the fall, the culture war seems to continue unabated. Last year newly appointed Attorney General Alberto Gonzales started a renewed war on porn, the first major clamp down on American pornography since the heyday of Ed Meese. Now conservative groups have decided to push the war another step, by demanding hotels remove porn from available selections in room.

A coalition of 13 conservative groups -- including the Family Research Council and Concerned Women for America -- took out full-page ads in some editions of USA Today earlier this month urging the Justice Department and FBI to investigate whether some of the pay-per-view movies widely available in hotels violate federal and state obscenity laws.
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"These are places that you take your family -- these are respectable institutions," said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. "Anything that brings porn into the mainstream is a concern. It just desensitizes people."


It's not entirely clear what having "porn in the mainstream" desensitizes people to. Except maybe idiotic, puritanical taboos about sex that have lingered in American consciousness for centuries. The arguments made for keeping porn in hotels is eminently reasonable, while the argument against it just.... confounds logic. Observe.

Both Kathy Shepard of Hilton and Roger Conner of Marriott said the bulk of their hotels are operated by franchise-holders who make their own decisions about in-room programming. They made clear, however, that their companies consider adult movies to be an acceptable option because they can be ignored or blocked out by guests not wishing to view them.

"Really ultraconservative groups try to target the hotels in their zest to eliminate porn," Shepard said. "In their zest to have their personal morals prevail, they're eliminating choice for others."

Conner said none of the programming offered by Marriott is illegal, and he depicted adult movies as a standard part of today's hotel business.

"In-room movies are a revenue stream," he said. "This is a business matter."


Makes sense, right? No one is forcing it on anyone else, it's a purely business decision made by the hotel chains, and if parents don't want their kids watching porn they can ask the hotel to block the movies.

The leader of the campaign against in-room porn is Phil Burress, a self-described former porn addict who heads the Cincinnati-based Citizens for Community Values.

Burress and his allies have had some success regionally, pressuring about 15 Ohio and Kentucky hotels to stop offering adult movies. But he says a nationwide pressure campaign would be difficult because nearly all the big hotel chains have similar policies -- porn is available at some but not all of their affiliates.

Though unable to cite specific cases, Burress contended that the availability of in-room porn is making hotels more dangerous.

"As more and more of these (hardcore) titles become available, we're going to have sexual abuse cases coming out of the hotels," he said. "Hotels are just as dangerous as environments around strip joints and porn stores."


I'm going to quote his last line again, in case people missed it the first time.

"Hotels are just as dangerous as environments around strip joints and porn stores."


This may be one of the dumbest arguments ever made. And this man may be one of the dumbest people to ever live. The most dangerous things that jumps out at me from reading this isn't the threat that pornography in hotel rooms poses, but the fact that mouth breathers like this guy have the ear of powerful Washington politicians who just might decide to listen to him.

With any luck, nothing at all will ever come of this, and even zealots like Gonzales will realize that even states with strict obscenity laws are going to have a hard time regulating what types of movies people watch in the privacy of their own hotel rooms.

Democracy can only thrive in a "marketplace of ideas." That is, when many different options are presented and people can pick and choose what they like, while disregarding what they don't. Something these groups just don't understand. If they believe pornography to be a bad thing, then by all means, tell people why (and giving a bit of evidence and logic to go along with it might not hurt either.) But don't restrict their choices because of your own, personal, warped sense of morality. It's fundamentally opposed to the very idea of a free and democratic society.

 

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steve626

steve626

Tarentum, PA
February 2005

AUG 23, 2006 07:42 PM

sounds like another case of "if I can't watch porn, then nobody can!"

guyincognito

GuyIncognito

Minneapolis, MN
September 2004

AUG 23, 2006 07:43 PM

I don't care if they remove the porn, as long as they don't remove the pay-per-view movies with naked people having sex in them.

I always sheepishly pretend that I didn't order them when I'm checking out at the front desk.

Me: WHAT'S THIS? I most assuredly did NOT order "MOULON SPLOOGE"!!! I most have somehow pressed the wrong buttons on the remote.

Clerk: But it says right here that you watched it for 3 minutes at 10:00 PM last night.

Me: Oh... 3 minutes you say? That sounds about right. Ring it up.

noirkiss3

noirkiss3

Minneapolis, MN
April 2006

AUG 23, 2006 07:46 PM

This is so dumb, don't they realize every one from GE to ATnT have stock in the skin klick trade?

Andvari

Andvari

Calgary, AB
April 2005

AUG 23, 2006 07:57 PM

I always wonder what motivates these people. Who really cares what goes on behind closed doors? Do they feel that their own lives are out of control, so they have to control others? Do they feel so repressed that a lifting of the pressure on them will result in their own destruction? Did they, after their first time having sex, clean the cum of with a Kleenex only to wake up the next day to find the Kleenex had turned black and become infested with flies?


Meaningless bonus points to the first person to correctly identify the last sickening image!

seanvegas

seanvegas

Lincoln, NE
December 2004

AUG 23, 2006 08:02 PM

You people shouldn't be so insensitive in this mater. Porno DVDs have been forcing there way into my home and sitting on my DVD rack, popping into my DVD player and forcing me to sit and watch them for years. And it's not my fault, I just have to jack off to them when I watch them. It's not my fault I tell ya', they force me to watch them.

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

AUG 23, 2006 08:10 PM

Boy, I bet "Concerned Women for America" are some fun babes, aren't they?

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

AUG 23, 2006 08:13 PM

jake_lex said:
Boy, I bet "Concerned Women for America" are some fun babes, aren't they?



I've got "Concerned Women Go Wild III" in my DVD player ready to go right at this very moment.

Eta

Eta

Portland, OR
November 2005

AUG 23, 2006 08:16 PM


"Hotels are just as dangerous as environments around strip joints and porn stores."



Um... yeah. I'm a woman, and I've never been afraid to go into a strip club or porn store -even by myself!!! I guess I was just ignorant of the danger that lurked within...

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

AUG 23, 2006 08:16 PM

You have to actually order porn movies in hotels, right? It's not just on (at least, not in any hotel I've ever been to). So, how exactly does this affect families?

Adroitbeing

Adroitbeing

I'm lost
September 2003

AUG 23, 2006 08:21 PM

Someone needs to place a hotel TV remote in this group's, uh...
-ass?
-mouth?
-hand?

Emperor_Norton

Emperor_Norton

Phoenix, AZ
February 2006

AUG 23, 2006 08:31 PM

Andvari said:
I always wonder what motivates these people. Who really cares what goes on behind closed doors? Do they feel that their own lives are out of control, so they have to control others? Do they feel so repressed that a lifting of the pressure on them will result in their own destruction? Did they, after their first time having sex, clean the cum of with a Kleenex only to wake up the next day to find the Kleenex had turned black and become infested with flies?


Meaningless bonus points to the first person to correctly identify the last sickening image!



Isn't that from Y: The Last Man? I remember seeing something like that in the "Safe Word" story arc.

Emperor_Norton

Emperor_Norton

Phoenix, AZ
February 2006

AUG 23, 2006 08:31 PM

Holden_Caulfield

Holden_Caulfield

Ann Arbor, MI
April 2004

AUG 23, 2006 08:34 PM

Most of the porn that I have seen on hotel pay-per-view has been produced or edited in such a way that the sexual activity cannot be seen.

I suppose that if the Family Research Council can object to porn in hotels, then I can object to the hardcore sex being edited from the films, right? wink

DhD_No_Pants

DhD_No_Pants

Katy, TX
May 2006

AUG 23, 2006 08:35 PM

madelynn said:

"Hotels are just as dangerous as environments around strip joints and porn stores."



Um... yeah. I'm a woman, and I've never been afraid to go into a strip club or porn store -even by myself!!! I guess I was just ignorant of the danger that lurked within...



The only time I've been scared in a XXX shop was when the sales lady showed me how well the quirt worked... by chasing me around the store and spanking me with it.

If she'd have been cute, it might have been different, but she put my husband's mustache to shame.

Coliwali

Coliwali

I'm lost
February 2003

AUG 23, 2006 08:38 PM

madelynn said:

"Hotels are just as dangerous as environments around strip joints and porn stores."



Um... yeah. I'm a woman, and I've never been afraid to go into a strip club or porn store -even by myself!!! I guess I was just ignorant of the danger that lurked within...



Hey if you've never been afraid of a hotel, then this guy maybe on to something!
These guys can have my porn when they pry it from my hairy palms.

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