become?

people might actually have money to pay for these rising prices if they're hired instead of undocumented workers that can be paid shit for a hard day's work.

I think that its a bad idea for blackwater to take control of the border..leave that to the border control...even if its just training...there trained now..what it hasn't been good enough up until this point. I know Illegals still get in but if theres a will in someone theres a way,. Blackwater will make it all about profilt and disregard human life and that is not an option. Even if you don't like the border patrol send in the national guard like they were originally going to do. Not blackwater. Cheny has racked in enough money for his croonies.

Migrant workers are not a national security issue. No 9/11 hijackers crossed the Rio Grande. Most of them--like half of all illegal immigrants--were overstaying tourist and student visas. If national security justifies a fence on the Mexican border, then it also justifies one on the Canadian border.

The bottom line is that most illegal immigrants are willing to break the law to work in America because so many employers are willing to break the law to hire them. It's a two-way street. So if it so important to stop illegal immigration then lets give Halliburton a billion-dollar contract to build an effective employment eligibility verification system. Otherwise, lets not put stock in conservative pipe dreams.

In the long run, the only people who are going to be separated by a multi-billion-dollar border fence are moderate republicans and extremist republicans. Moderates are plenty ticked because it will be impossible for them to get a majority vote when (very soon) the majority of voters are ethnic minorities. And fiscal conservatives are plenty ticked at how much money the government would be pissing down an endless rathole.

Just my $.02

The Nat'l Guard is stretched thin as it is. And you don't know that Blackwater will make it all about profit without any regard for human life. I'm not really envisioning mercenaries sitting on the border sniping out Mexicans as they come through.

My question is whether or not some type of realistic budget can be set in place and adhered to, along with a 'trial' period of allowing a private corporation to take over border control. We don't have to keep 'em there forever, ya know. While they are in the trial period, brainstorm a bit more, and if they don't work out, implement plan B.

Of course, I am just a "separationist" and a bigot because I want to enforce any type of border control at all. I hate me some damn beaners and sure do wish summun' wood do somefin bout it.

I guess I'm kinda leery of the whole standing army enforcing the law that doesn't report directly to the government thing. It seems like hiring more border patrol would be a better solution.

I think we should put sharks and rabid dogs with frickin laser beams on their heads to patrol the border...

DANCEHALLDREAMER FOR PREZ 2008!

Can I be your running mate?

Now that's the kind of appropriation I can get behind.

Great, where's the money to pay that come from? It'll come from major economic adjustments. The easiest adjustment is to raise prices. Our prices go up suddenly, we'll demand our wages go up too. Add to that the no-longer depressed unskilled labor wage... and prices go up! Both because there's some people with more money than before, and because it now costs more to produce, service and market WHATEVER. What this COULD get you is a seemingly endless spiralling inflation. That or the rest of us just get squeezed a bunch more.

Though I suppose before the Repubs get voted out they could do away with Welfare so that the American poor would end up HAVING to take those jobs the Mexicans and other illegals are doing today.

Though none of that is likely to happen. Big business will find someone they can buy to pass the well-written guest worker program that could have solved this "problem" in the first place.

That or the new private border patrol will be about as effective as the old one.

Quit talking about my appropriation like that, you perv. I know I've got a great one, but you don't have to drool on it.

Yes, you've been a very bad girl. You need discipline.

Thanks. You did do it again. It's still funny.

Right. I forgot for a moment how Libertarians are capable of convincing themselves that a government which is so weak that it cannot resist becoming captive to overwhelmingly powerful private interests is actually somehow "big." Your pretzel-like rationalizations never cease to amaze me.

What's evolving in this country is technically referred to as a kleptocracy - a police state in which a handful of private interests assume control of state power in order to loot the commonwealth. It's Ayn Rand's wet dream, where all power has been removed from that horrible "public" and handed over to those who have a decent will to power.

Exactly. Everyone who thinks the government is the body that should be responsible for defense of the nation is a god-damned dirty commie pinko.

Well, I don't know about everybody else, but last I checked, you and I actually are god-damned dirty commie pinkos.

Correct, comrade. I also fully intend to start a recruitment drive because apparently this signals a great deal of sympathy in our cause.