crazed dictatorial short people should not have access to nuclear weapons. and the leaderships of countries, especially communist ones.

Kim Jong Ill is only mad because he says that Dubya's hair is too sexy.

i'd really laugh, alot, if and when they set this missle off, all it did was blow up on the launch platform, and somehow not set off it's own cargo.

that being said, this guy really does love news coverage, fugging nutjob.

Unfortunately the one think North Korea seems to be good at spending money on is its military.

Can't wait till we invade them.

What should I name my North Korean brothel? "Paul's Palace of Poon"?

hmmm ..... you could quite easily replace Nth. Korea with USA and Kim-Jong-Il with George Bush. Try it and it reads perfectly.

The USA should wake up to the fact that it is not a democracy (a few thousand votes in Ohio settled the Presidential election - oh, what is it 528 electrol college votes that, except for 2 states, go all to the majority candidate in each state).

I don't see Nth. Korea running a Camp Delta, nor do I hear them using there Attorney General to try to get around the Geneva conventions.

So Ronnie Raygun and G.W aren't certifiably insane?? Didn't G.W threaten 3 countries with his Axis of Evil speach - The good 'ole US of A is hardly squeaky clean.

Let's list the countries that the USA has spread democracy, Germany (split), Korea (split), Vietnam (split), Chile (dictator), Timor (annexed), Iraq (split) - The USA has failed in every country it has stuck it's beak into.

Didn't the USA constantly send spy planes over the USSR and invade their airspace, didn't they put Nukes in Turkey (closer to the East than Cuba was to Florida), didn't they sail the USS Vincence into Iranian waters and shoot down a passenger jet.

When the USA has it's house in order, then start casting aspertions on others. Nth.Korea is defending itself against an Imperalistic USA - G.W has made threats, so it is now getting ready to defend it's self.

'ner

Dr. Strangelove .

Got to side with Bret54 on this one.

The USA under control of the current republican party and it's leaders is the biggest threat to world peace in history.

And the both of you need a steaming cup of fucking reality. Bret54 comes from a country of only slightly smarter-than-retarded koala-fuckers descended from inbred criminals whose major contributions to the world are comedy, of the intentional sort (Paul Hogan and Priscilla Queen of the Desert) and the unintentional (Steve Irwin and his baby in the croc pen, and Greg Norman at the Masters).

While I won't disagree with you that the Dominion Theologists are the greatest threat to America's political equilibrium in, well, probably in American history, this country is still a long fucking way off from being like a North Korea (or even a Singapore). If you think anything happening today is new, or that illegal domestic surveillance is the exclusive domain of the neo-conservatives in power, steal Abbie Hoffman's book about his harassment at the hands of COINTELPRO (which started in the 50s).

The US is not a fucking democracy. It's a Federalist Republic. Really, go look it up.

Psssst. America is a DICKtatorship. Cheny and his mob have been running it from his secret bunker since 2001.

What screwed up history book have you been reading that the splitting of Germany was America's fault? if I remember correctly, it as split four ways and the US joined its piece with Britain's and France's to form West Germany.
So, yeah, I guess the US had some say in Germany being split, but it wasn't necessarily a bad thing. And last time I checked, the two sides reunited under a democratic government.

As for the others, I don't know. What do you do when a large percentage of a country has some ideals and another large percentage has other, radically different ideals? Compromise, of course. But if that can't happen, should one group remain oppressed in the name of national unity?

Way to divert the focus from the issue at hand...First, I don't think anyone here, at least not many, would dispute the fact that GW is clearly a nut job. The focus of this however was the fact that North Korea is threatening a nuclear strike against US forces in South Korea and any US allies that it sees fit to launch against should there be signs of an invasion. Kim Jong-Il and his predocesors have been at this for quite a few years now. This isnt something that just appeared over the last few years and certianly not over night. I should remind some of you that the Korean conflict while never officaly declared a war was never officialy ended either. We have basicaly been in the midst of a cease fire for the past 50 years or so. US forces who are sent there are still considered to be in a combat zone and at least in the Army is still a mandatory duty assignment for at least one year last I checked anyway. Oh yeah...Australia sends a soldier or two over there from time to time as well...ya might want to check it out. Come to think of it Australia has had involvement in ALL of the conflicts you listed.
Now you compare the US government and the N. Korean government on convention violations and treatment of prisoners of war or their own people for that matter. Do some research...N. Korea has been starving it's own poeple, imprisoning or flat out killing anyone who even thinks of speaking against the government, and withholding medical care for generations. All while Kim Jong-Il has monthly parades for himself and lives in a palace grander than Your queens. I won't even get into the treatment of POWs during the Korean conflict.
Again if you do some reading you'll see that US soldiers who have been involved in wrongful treatment of prisoners in Iraq or G. Bay have been and are still being put on trial for their actions. Some of the punishments handed down have included discharge from the military and imprisonment. Granted I'm sure that there are others who have probably done things wrong and I can gaurantee that POWs have been forcefuly interogated but let me also point this out. War is not a pretty business and ugly things happen. There is no good way around it other than not going to war at all. Perhaps one day we will live in a world where everyone treats each other with love and respect but it aint going to happen in our lifetime.
Now before you go there...I'm not even going to try to debate with you the why are you there question becuase I have no idea. I honestly couldn't care less if the North Koreans are starving or if the Iraqi people get to vote or go to school. I have a hard enough time paying my own bills here at home and trying to take care of sick and injured people who cant afford their medical bills to worry about any of that. Call me closed minded or deluded or whatever you like doesn't matter but before you make comparisons of one over the other do a little research first.

*shrug* Political leaders like to puff their chests up. I'm really not that worried. Even Bush knows better than to start a land war in China...or I guess a nuclear war in Korea.

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I'm honestly fascinated by this statement, why isn't it?

It's finally going to happen.

Hypothetical question: Exactly how far will N. Korea get to go before taking any real military action against them is not considered war-mongering on behalf of our government?

Is test firing that long range missile enough?
or
Do we wait to see if they are batshit crazy enough to hit something with it?

And before anyone points this out to me: I am quite aware that this pretty much amounts to international dick shaking on behalf of N. Korea.