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  • TUESDAY JUNE 13 2006 4:00 PM

Government's Argument for Wiretapping So Airtight it's Circular!

The revelation last December that the NSA had been actively wiretapping US citizens living in the US in the interest of "national security" has been a major factor in the continuing decline in approval ratings of the President and Congress. The American Civil Liberties Union has also initiated a lawsuit challenging the legality of this surveillance program, claiming that it is tantamount to domestic spying and exceeds the authority granted to the President by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which states that surveillance requires a warrant in order to comply with constitutional concerns. The government filed two separate motions to dismiss the case in Federal court today, the first claiming that the plaintiffs have no standing to file, the second says that because of the risk to national security the necessary details that would allow for prosecution of the case cannot be made available.

A National Security Agency program that listens in on international communications involving people in the United States is both vital to national security and permitted by the Constitution, a government lawyer told a judge here on Monday in the first major court argument on the program.

But, the lawyer went on, "the evidence we need to demonstrate to you that it is lawful cannot be disclosed without that process itself causing grave harm to United States national security."

The only solution to this impasse, the lawyer, Anthony J. Coppolino, said, was for the judge to dismiss the suit before her, an American Civil Liberties Union challenge to the eavesdropping program, under the state secrets privilege. The privilege can short-circuit cases that would reveal national security information, and it is fast becoming one of the Justice Department's favorite tools in defending court challenges to its efforts to combat terrorism.

The Detroit case was filed in January on behalf of journalists, scholars, lawyers and nonprofit organizations who argued that the possibility of government eavesdropping interfered with their work. In remarks to reporters after the 90-minute argument, Anthony D. Romero, the A.C.L.U.'s executive director, called the government's invocation of the state secrets privilege "Orwellian doublespeak."

"They argued essentially that the N.S.A. program was off limits to judicial review," Mr. Romero said.


Their argument also makes no logical sense, it is a tautology. An illegal action whose validity is challenged cannot be challenged because of the illegal nature of the action itself. The executive branch is attempting to put itself in a position where it cannot be challenged on anything because of "national security." It's another example of the scare tactics and bullying that Bush has brought out every time Congress threatened to take him to task for something he had done in the name of the "war on terror." But this is a wholly different sort of opponent for the President. Federal judges are appointed for lifetime terms, and while resisting administrative pressure may jeopardize the future promotions of a federal judge, no other politics come into play once the judge has been appointed. The absolute worst case scenario is that a judge's decision is appealed and then overturned, with no ramifications at all for the original judge. This was the intent of the framers when the constitution was drafted, recognizing the importance of an independent judiciary they made the position as nonpolitical as possible after a judge had been confirmed and appointed.

So bringing out the "national security" bogeyman may not prove to be as effective as it has been in the past. Particularly considering the nature of the complaint; the FISA provides ample opportunity to quickly obtain a wiretap warrant in a secret court where no sensitive issues will be made available to the public, and even this was ignored in the administration's zeal to spy on its own citizens. Fortunately Judge Beeson doesn't seem to be buying it.

Ms. Beeson said the 1978 law, often called FISA, gave the president all the flexibility he needed. "If FISA didn't work," she said, "the proper procedure under our constitutional system was for the president to go back to Congress and ask it to amend the law."

"Our constitutional system was set up to require the president to follow the law just like anyone else," she added. "If our view of the separation of powers is extreme, then the Constitution is extreme."


It's not as if the president was likely to face a hostile Congress if he asked for more authority in generating warrants for wiretap authority. But that doesn't seem to be how this administration operates, from the beginning it has searched to increase its own authority at the expense of that of both the legislative and judicial branches.

What is unfortunate is that the government's other objection, that of the standing of the ACLU to even file a complaint, could very well lead to the case being dismissed before a judge has a chance to weigh in on the meatier issues at hand. But even that objection is based on somewhat circular reasoning, as the government claims that it would violate national security to release information showing who had been adversely affected by the wiretapping, and therefore since it is unwilling to do so that the initial challenge against the government has no ground upon which to stand. In essence, the plaintiff has no evidence upon which to file suit because the government refuses to give out that information because of what the plaintiff is initially complaining about.

Wrap your heads around that.

 
Comments
sportdeath

sportdeath

I'm lost
December 2003

JUN 13, 2006 05:09 PM

Catch 22

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

JUN 13, 2006 05:20 PM

The administration can't come up with a good legal argument for what they're doing because it's not based on any legal rationale other than "We do what we want to because we're at war with terror."

You can't say that to a judge, however. You need a better reason, and they can't come up with one.

I expect the courts to rule this program unconstitutional. I do not expect that to stop it.

JonnyJonnyH

JonnyJonnyH

Seattle, WA
June 2003

JUN 13, 2006 05:57 PM

This is one of the best articles I have ever read on the newswire. Thank you for that.

SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

JUN 13, 2006 06:16 PM

sportdeath said:
Catch 22



It's not a Catch 22, since they are lying. There is no such thing as a secret law in the United States.

If they have powers that the citizens do not know about, they are illegal powers. The government lawyer made his own case against himself.

You can't break a law unless it is actually a law. Just saying over and over that someone is breaking a secret law they can't tell you about is a legal impossibility.

They are lying.

SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

JUN 13, 2006 06:25 PM

And another thing, this program cannot be legally classified, since it clearly violates the constitution in a million different ways.

You can't actually "divulge" information if it is not classified, so revealing any information about an illegal program is unpunishable..

sportdeath

sportdeath

I'm lost
December 2003

JUN 13, 2006 07:05 PM

SirPsychoSexy said:

sportdeath said:
Catch 22



It's not a Catch 22, since they are lying. There is no such thing as a secret law in the United States.

If they have powers that the citizens do not know about, they are illegal powers. The government lawyer made his own case against himself.

You can't break a law unless it is actually a law. Just saying over and over that someone is breaking a secret law they can't tell you about is a legal impossibility.

They are lying.




They are certainly lying.

But from the point of view of the courts (which recently accepted just this reasoning in the El-Masri v. Tenet et al., http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/exhibita524.pdf ) this is irrelevant.

There is no charge that there is a secret law. Rather, there is a claim that even if the governments actions are in fact illegal, this can only be determined by a trial. But the trial itself cannot proceed without compromising state secrets (presumably the fact that the illegal activity is taking place). But (see the El-Masri brief p. 6) the government can invoke ".. Rule 24(a), Fed.R.Civ.P. in order to protect its interests in preserving its state secrets...."

But once this is the case, the law, at least as interpreted by the El-Masri Judge, is absolute:


Importantly, once the court is satisfied that any disclosure of the putative
secrets "might have a deleterious effect on national security, ' the claim of the privilege will be accepted without requiring further disclosure.' " Id. (quoting Reynolds, 345 U.S. at 9). Finally, it is important to note that, unlike other privileges, the state secrets privilege is absolute and therefore once a court is satisfied that the claim is validly asserted, the privilege is not subject to a judicial balancing of the various interests at stake.8 Thus, the adverse party's need for privileged information affects only the depth of the judicial inquiry into the validity of the assertion and not the strength of the privilege itself, for "even the most compelling necessity cannot overcome the claim of privilege if the court is ultimately satisfied that military secrets are at stake." Reynolds, 345 U.S. at 11.



So:
(1) the government is conducting illegal activities and lying about them;
(2) this is suspected, and suit is brought to reach this determination by a court of law;
(3) but the case cannot be tried without revealing a state secret, namely that the illegal activity is taking place; so
(4) established law says the case must be dismissed.

As for Catch 22:

There were many versions of it in Joseph Heller's book, but it all comes down to:


"What right did they have?"

"Catch-22."

"What?" Yossarian froze in his tracks with fear and alarm and felt his whole body begin to tingle. "What did you say?"

"Catch-22," the old woman repeated, rocking her head up and down. "Catch-22. Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing."

"What the hell are you talking about?" Yossarian shouted at her in bewildered, furious protest. "ow did you know it was Catch-22? Who the hell told you it was Catch-22?"

. . . .

"Didn't they show it to you?" Yossarian demanded, stamping about in ager and distress. "Didn' you even make them read it?"

"They don't have to show us Catch-22," the old woman answered. "The law says they don' have to."

"What law says they don't have to?"

"Catch-22."

Stott

Stott

Chicago, IL
January 2004

JUN 14, 2006 09:13 AM

Catch 33

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JUN 14, 2006 09:25 AM

oyaji said:
I agree that the argument is bullshit, but it is not a tautology.

The argument is that the activity is legal but presenting evidence that proves that it's legal would expose state secrets. It's not ipso facto true that anything that is a "state secret" is illegal.

In any event, it doesn't seem as though the argument will fly.


True. At any rate, couldn't the judge just review the relevant evidence in camera and avoid the exposure of "national security"?

The standing argument is also, I think, not a winner. The plaintiffs should be able to survive a motion to dismiss and get to discovery. It remains to be seen whether they will discover anything that helps them maintain standing. But at this stage they should be able to go forward.


See, this I didn't know. I thought standing was more of an initial threshhold issue and didn't know that discovered documents could then help or hurt standing. I assume this is because the government has exclusive control over the only evidence that could show a direct injury?

scorpioopus

scorpioopus

San Francisco, CA
May 2004

JUN 14, 2006 11:02 AM

On a personal note, my girlfriend was recently in Europe and I tried to set up international calling on my phone. I was told I couldn't have the plan immediately, and would have to get a background check done!!!! I said thanks but no thanks, and got a calling card. I'll let you know if I hear any strange clicks on my phone.

LiquidYogi

LiquidYogi

Claremont, CA
September 2003

JUN 14, 2006 11:16 AM

scorpioopus said:
On a personal note, my girlfriend was recently in Europe and I tried to set up international calling on my phone. I was told I couldn't have the plan immediately, and would have to get a background check done!!!! I said thanks but no thanks, and got a calling card. I'll let you know if I hear any strange clicks on my phone.



Stop being a terrorist, maybe you can make phone calls biggrin