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Shhhhh, Don’t Tell Anyone It’s a Dictatorship

WEDNESDAY MAY 24 2006 3:00 PM

Khalid el-Masri, a German of Lebanese descent, was traveling in Macedonia in December, 2003 when he was arrested by police because his name matched that of a suspected terrorist. He was then taken on a really fun trip on clandestine flights to and from places like Kabul, Baghdad, and Skopje, Macedonia, during five months of detention. He was privileged to enjoy abduction, drugging, confinement and torture. But after such a great trip he was suddenly cast out when the government realized it had kidnapped the wrong man. Oops.

The US government has not confirmed that it took el-Masri on his vacation but they do admit to having a rendition program that operates exactly the same way. The government has said the program is an effective tool in the "war on terror." It is also apparently good for making people whose names are similar to bad guys disappear. Good thing we’re not fighting the Irish or there would be a shitload of missing O’Neill’s.

El-Masri was obviously upset and decided to sue the US government. He has substantial evidence to back up his story, which German prosecutors have verified. But last Thursday a federal court in Virginia threw out the lawsuit because the judge accepted the government's claim that any alleged activities relating to el-Masri were "state secrets." The state secrets objection has been used before. It is a proposition that even simple lawsuits against the government can involve issues that would be genuinely harmful to national security if they were exposed. In this case it is being used by a reckless administration to hide totally illegal actions.

The states secrets objection is a privilege that was rarely used until Bush took office. It was claimed only 55 times between 1954 and 2001 but now has been used 23 times since Sept. 11, 2001. So everything is looking up, now we can kidnap people, torture them then say, “oops” and send them on their way. No repercussions for KIDNAPPING an innocent man.

Combine this with the NSA refusing to grant Justice Department lawyers the necessary security clearance to investigate the warrantless eavesdropping program and today’s announcement that the FCC also will not pursue the matter because it cannot obtain classified material and I conclude we are living in one secretive fucked up country that is heading toward a dangerous place.

Everybody got his or her passport? Not that you can use it if your name is on the no fly list…

 

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WilWheaton

WilWheaton

Los Angeles, CA
June 2005

MAY 24, 2006 03:11 PM

Yeah, I'm sure Congress will get right on this, as soon as they're done taking the White House to court because the FBI had the nerve to investigate a corrupt douchebag congressman.

Max16Characters

Max16Characters

Korea, Republic Of
March 2003

MAY 24, 2006 03:15 PM

Somebody needs to bring this guy to a press conference and have him interrupt it.

Max16Characters

Max16Characters

Korea, Republic Of
March 2003

MAY 24, 2006 03:19 PM

Like that former CIA guy who interrupted Rumsfeld at that one press conference.

waldo

waldo

I'm lost
June 2004

MAY 24, 2006 03:32 PM

I wish I could say this was surprising or shocking. Looks like par for the course, these days. I liked America better when it used proxies for its torturing. I admit, I was wrong.

solaris1622

solaris1622

Thousand Oaks, CA
March 2005

MAY 24, 2006 03:45 PM

WilWheaton said:
Yeah, I'm sure Congress will get right on this, as soon as they're done taking the White House to court because the FBI had the nerve to investigate a corrupt douchebag congressman.



WOW!

Wil Wheaton is the god-awesomest!

FrankMask

FrankMask

Saint Paul, MN
June 2003

MAY 24, 2006 03:51 PM

In Soviet Russia KGB Knock on door at 3am, give you a chance to say goodbye to your family, then haul you off to a detention camp in Siberia.

What happened to America? We were supposed to be fighting this kind of shit.

aegies

aegies

Oakland, CA
June 2004

MAY 24, 2006 04:29 PM

WilWheaton said:
Yeah, I'm sure Congress will get right on this, as soon as they're done taking the White House to court because the FBI had the nerve to investigate a corrupt douchebag congressman.



it wasn't the investigation, it was the illegal search and entrance of a congressional office by the executive branch. it is, for all intents and purposes, illegal for the fbi to do what they did. while it's obvious that the congress' immediate concern has more to do with their own asses and keeping their activities private, it's a further indication of the current administration's effort to increase the power of the executive while simultaneously weakening the authority of the legislature and judiciary. i guess it finally hits home for the GOP when bush decides to start shitting where they eat. so on this one, i'm with congress on calling foul, even if the democrat they're investigating is considered guilty by even his own party.

GreenBlooded

GreenBlooded

United Kingdom
April 2006

MAY 24, 2006 04:37 PM

WilWheaton said:
Yeah, I'm sure Congress will get right on this, as soon as they're done taking the White House to court because the FBI had the nerve to investigate a corrupt douchebag congressman.



Good point, well made. You have to love a government which relies on apathy more than active support. Maybe 'love' isn't the word I want. Christ. Sometimes 'getting away with murder' is more than saying.

handsome_rob

handsome_rob

Burlington, IA
May 2004

MAY 24, 2006 09:44 PM

it's time
for me to make a rhyme

PUT THEM ALL

UP AGAINST THE WALL.

handsome_rob

handsome_rob

Burlington, IA
May 2004

MAY 24, 2006 09:45 PM

seriously. shoot the government.

artdogger

artdogger

Mexico
March 2006

MAY 24, 2006 10:50 PM

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UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

MAY 25, 2006 12:50 AM

If it were a dictatorship, you'd never have heard of this guy, innocent or guilty, he'd have been found guilty and would not have got out - let alone allowed to raise a court case. Can you imagine that happening in Libya?

This was a one-off freak occurance - if it were a dictatorship it would be an everyday occurance, but you wouldn't hear about it because any journalist reporting it would also be arrested.

We don't know exactly what happened to this dude - just his accusations, partially backed up by a semi-hostile government.

I also don't think his case should be heard if it compromises international security. This rights of one guy, freakishly arrested by accident shouldn't endanger the rest of us.

He should be bunged a few thousand deniable dollars and told to shut the fuck up. If he wants to make some grandiose political point, then he shouldn't get a red cent.

As for clandestine secret service activity...well you can't make an omlette without breaking a few eggs, but occurances like this are as rare as...well as rare as terrorist attacks in America these days.



[Edited on May 25, 2006 by UpTight]

quagmirething

quagmirething

I'm lost
June 2005

MAY 25, 2006 03:07 AM

UpTight said:
This was a one-off freak occurance - if it were a dictatorship it would be an everyday occurance, but you wouldn't hear about it because any journalist reporting it would also be arrested.


One-off freak occurrence? It took five months to find out that he simply wasn't the person they thought he was. That's first class investigation and interrogation work there. How long will a person who is the right guy, but 100% innocent, have to spend in the system? History suggests two to four years, with luck.

I don't expect you see things my way, you just don't value the rule of law as I do.

plastictrees

plastictrees

Canada
February 2005

MAY 25, 2006 03:30 AM


I also don't think his case should be heard if it compromises international security. This rights of one guy, freakishly arrested by accident shouldn't endanger the rest of us.



How do we know it compromises international security? Because the people that accidentally arrested and detained him for nearly half a year says it does?

As for clandestine secret service activity...well you can't make an omlette without breaking a few eggs, but occurances like this are as rare as...well as rare as terrorist attacks in America these days.



As opposed to the daily terrorist attacks that plagued the US prior to this administration?
I hope noone ever has to eat one of your omelettes.

mingol

mingol

Singapore
July 2005

MAY 25, 2006 03:57 AM

Aww, don't be so hard on the poor Bush administration.

After all, if you were doing all the revolting shit that they are, wouldn't you want it to remain a state secret?

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