No, I am not, I am saying that the war in Iraq was planned by the Neo Con core in the Pentagon and then in thinktanks and then in the White House for reason having nothing to do with WMDs. Their objective was to replace the gov't in Iraq with a "democracy" friendly to, if not outright beholden to the US. From this they hoped to derive three major benefits. 1) (and I am changing the order here so you are clear that they are not in priority order) A balance to Iran, 2) Secured access to oil, 3) Security for Israel.

Security for Israel has always been a lynchpin in US Middle East Policy, I am not clear how this is now a revelation simply because David Duke has caught on.

And besides, if Duke says something - and I have never read ANY of his stuff, so you are far more familiar with it than I am (!!!) - that happens to have some truth in it, the fact that Duke says it makes it no less true. But I do not subscibe to secret "Cabal" notions of any sort. Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perl, et al were quite public about their desires, intentions and hoped for outcomes.

Finally, I resent your implication that I am an "unconscious" anti-semite. I have issues with Israeli domestic and foreign policy (I also have issues with Saudi, Iraninan, Egyptian, and Afghanistanian domestic and foreign policy - also with that of England, France, Germany, Russia... and the US.) The fact that it is a Jewish state is frankly immaterial. Bottom line is that I don't think they are due any breaks simply because they are a Jewish state, if you think that makes me antisemitic, that is an indication of your prejudice, not mine.

I don't think you are an antisemite, but if you have any thoughts that the war in Iraq was fought for Israel, you are sitting at the same table as the Nazis and anyone else that thinks the Jews control the world.

Man, you need to strengthen your reading comprehension skills, and expand your worldview. I absolultely think that Israel's security is on the agenda in the US activities in the Middle East, including the invasion of Iraq. Your idea that this means the the war in Iraq would thus be fought "for" Israel is a reflection of your inability to grasp the complexities of modern foreign policy.

Do you think Russian and Chinese support for Iran means that they are "against" Israel? Of course not, they support Iran becuase it represents a counterweight to the US presence in Iraq. Do you think they want Iran to have nukes? No, but they also don't want US influence expanded in the region.

This is how the fossil fuel geopolitics game is played. Israel is just a card in the deck - but it is one of the trump cards for the US.

Linking someone who disagrees with you to David Duke is pretty cowardly and reprehensible, even for you.

That's nice. What does it have to do with anything I just said?

Momentarily lost my mind and responded to a post. Thought better of it.

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aw

Yeah, and if you like King Kong you are sitting at the same table as Hitler. Thanks for the insight.

I'm not "linking" someone with David Duke because they disagree with me.

Anyone ignorant, hatefilled or deranged enought to say that Iraq war was started for Israel is propagating the same NeoNazi myth that David Duke trumpets.

here is a screen grab of http://www.nowarforisrael.com



As you can see the "No war for Israel" website alleges that a NeoCon cabal cooked up the Iraq war to assist Israel.

As you can see from this thread, Nick alleges that a NeoCon cabal cooked up the Iraq war to help Israel.

Who is behind the No War For Israel website?

The domain registration details are availalable on any WHOIS website, but to save you the trouble, you 'll find that "NoWarforIsrael.com" is registered to Mr David Duke.

Perhaps it's a different David Duke...



If any leftist readers feel uncomfortable about the idea of sharing a wacko conspiracy theory about the "you know whews" with David Duke, then I would suggest they regulate their poisoned Kool Aid intake.

Well I don't know about the Fuhrer's feelings about King Kong, but certainly if you spread nasty conspiracy theories about Jews controlling stuff, he's certainly in the same restaurant.

And yes - I know - deranged conspiracy theories about Jews is not identical to spreading deranged conspiracy theories about Israel. Just like spreading stories about Ireland being backwards, is not a slur on the Irish.

The Jews are clearly behind the war on King Kong.

Now you're sharing a table with Daisy Duke


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you also said stuff?

I intended on questioning your logic, but I fear the possibility that this has previously been done by an anti-semite, thus making me an anti-semite under your bold new interpretation of the transitive property. So, carry on. Connect the dots as you wish.

Also, Hitler (reportedly) loved King Kong. (so I, reportedly, do not)

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For millenia, people have been making up all sorts of weird shit about the Jews. We all killed Christ, we have horns and stripes, we use christian virgins blood in our matzos etc. etc. etc.

Then, out of Tsarist russia popped the Protocols of the Elders of Zion - a piece of shit, race-hate forgery that spread the idea that the Jews control the world.

The latest twist on this is that the Jews control the American government and are using the blood of Christian soldiers to fight Israel's war with the Arabs.

I don't think every leftist that spouts off about Israel controlling America is conciously being antisemitic, but next time they spread some unsubstantiated nonsense about "Israel" having a secret controlling grip on world affairs, they should exaimine what message they are REALLY sending out.

Cos at the end of the day, it's just Protocols in drag.

The remake went on a bit

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