Again, I love that the con-bots and wing-nuts keep talk and talk and talking and lie lie lying. They are digging their own graves, and it is hilarious to watch them display how very out of touch with America they really are.

Moveon.org is attempting to do a lot to support this woman.

Vigil for Cindy Sheehan

This is pretty disgusting.

This is from an email I received from moveon:

Cindy Sheehan was not an anti-war activist, but the loss of her son and the mounting evidence of deception by the Bush administration pushed her to speak out.

Uh...yes. It is a pretty cataclysmic event.

But you have. At least you've proved your views lean very heavily towards the pro-war
ideology. Here is your latest journal entry, a true exercise in ignorance:
holy good god, i'm fed up with all this talk about the war. if you're not over there, then stop talking about it. or do something, like taking a flight over there, and YOU try reasoning with the leaders to stop the fighting. until then, sit down, shut up, and support your fucking country. shit, i've been there TWICE people. don't lecture me on how shitty the war is. go over there, then yap about. posers.

Take a flight over where? Where the leaders currently reside? Most experts guess Iran but who knows? Some how I have a feeling that anyone who lists an operation manual for an RX-7 as one of their favorite reading titles probably can't answer that one nor do I imagine that you could even name the extremist leaders we are up against.
(None of whom actually reside in Iraq and it is becoming more and more evident that they never have.)

Don't get me wrong, the inner workings of rotary engines make for some great reading, however I doubt they put you on the forefront to have the right to criticize the actions of anyone who has lost a child to this war .

This blind zealotry is almost on par with that of...hmm...say....Islamic extremists? I wasn't born in the States so it isn't "my" country so forgive me for not supporting a class act imperialistic empire.

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i was flipping through the channels the other day and stopped on fox news just as they were talking about this. they had one of their "experts" on talking about this whole situation. he kept going on and on about how sheehan was anti-american, putting our troops in danger with her protests and encouraging the terrorists.

so you can just demand to talk to the president now? cool! what's the number? :retard:

he's right

How are protesters and political players mutually exclusive categories? Is it simply that she brings moral weight and this actually effective in getting her point across? And why is that bad?

aside from what legionnaire already said, this sort of statement just seems to point to what's wrong with the state of political discourse in the media today. we focus on personalities rather than policy, so it's all about, "i like bush, so he must be right on iraq," or "cindy sheehan sucks because she hangs with that windbag michael moore." This is about a war, not some sort of bullshit high school factionism, and questions that remain unanswered because of all the petty, gossipy backbiting surrounding this media event. but hey, welcome to america

Look, an unselfish Republican President with any sort of tact can do it. It's not that hard:

Executive Mansion
Washington, Nov. 21, 1864

To Mrs. Bixby, Boston, Mass.
Dear Madam,

I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle. I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the republic they died to save. I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom.

Yours very sincerely and respectfully,
A. Lincoln

Sure beats "I feel sorry for the lady, but I've gotta keep to my jogging schedule!"

i'm not saying that what she's doing is wrong. and i'll concede; i'd say her primary concern has to do with what happened to her son. but embarrassing bush is most certainly her secondary concern

He already met with her once.


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Bush has embarrassed himself. Had he simply taken 15 minutes and met with her when she got there (as his advisors should have told him to do), he could have avoided this whole scene. Instead, he's encouraged her to become a political player by giving her a legitimate political gripe.

Regardless of your politics, you have to admit that Bush really REALLY could have cut this one off at the pass had he wanted to. Instead, he stupidly pushed it to the point where he can't win either way. In an administration that has been so good at spinning defeats to look like victories, there's no way out of this one without getting some egg on his face.

I think you are confusing strategy with goal.

Why in hell would she have a "secondary concern"? She lost a child. She wants answers. Liker the majority of the States she has become disheartened as to why exactly we are fighting a war in Iraq.

This is the extreme problem with conservative ideology. They see black and white. Nothing more. She must be right or left. Maybe she is simply a mother looking for answers as to why her son died?

Here is a little fact: She voted for Bush. Twice.

If my son died I would be just as concerned. Embarrassing our leader would not even be part of my mental and moral agenda. Simply answers and simply truth.

Somethings the shades of gray tend to make more sense when approached with actual logic, not punditry.

"Finally, my son is dead! Now I can accomplish what I've always wanted: embarrassing George W Bush!!"