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  • SATURDAY JULY 16 2005 9:22 PM

A Loving Tribute to Some Truly Wonderful People

The BBC would like you to know the bombers who killed all those people in London last week were lovely people, you know, when they weren't doing that mass murder thing.

"He was a good man, quiet," said one parent, speaking outside the school.

"When I told my daughter she said 'no, he can't do something like that'. I had to go and buy the paper and show her."

Another parent, Sharon Stevens, told the Press Association how he had been a "big supporter" of pupils and parents.

"He was really understanding and he did work for the children and parents."

Mohammad Sidique Khan was born in Leeds in 1974

During its last Ofsted inspection in 2002, the school's learning assistants had been singled out for special praise in dealing with a transient pupil population from a socially deprived area.


Just because people blow up subways, doesn't mean they are all bad, and I thank the BBC for taking the time to remind us of that. I think a lot of us had been maybe a little judgmental and angry towards these people, just because of one thing they did. I really think we should all take the time to appreciate their more positive personality traits. For one, they were all very religious people, and we all know how rare that is amongst the godless younger folks these days.

Also, let's not forget the bombers also died, and so they and their families are also victims in all this.

In a statement they described Hussain as "a loving and normal young man who gave us no concern".

"We are having difficulty taking this in," they said..

"...we have to live ourselves with the loss of our son in these difficult circumstances.


 

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MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

JUL 17, 2005 06:35 AM

jake_lex said:
Exactly. If you're around these people enough, you tend to find yourself thinking the worst of them later.

Fundamentalism is the problem in itself, not any specific religion. When you believe that anyone who doesn't belive exactly the same way you do is an agent of Satan, you tend to get a little bit dangerous.


Exactly what I'm getting at. Maybe Jerry Falwell isn't telling young Christian men to strap bombs to themselves and walk into crowded public areas (or strapping them to himself, for that matter), but he is telling young Christian men that it's okay to hate people that aren't like themselves- and from there it's not a far leap to the kind of extremist behavior Muslims have shown.

karaokejihad

karaokejihad

Saint Paul, MN
December 2002

JUL 17, 2005 08:19 AM

dkmfc said:

MisterSatan said:

Jeff_Fries said:

MisterSatan said:
And I realize that you never hear about Christians as suicide bombers; that doesn't mean that their own form of extremism isn't dangerous, y'know?


Is it even comparable?


I'm sure it isn't, to most people. Having grown up in a fundamental Christian church, however, I see things a little differently than most folks.


did people in your church strap bombs to themselves and attempt to blow up buses full of jews on a regular basis?




yeah, but they're really sorry about it now, so everything i think is gonna be okay.

Phoebus

Phoebus

Italy
OLD SKOOL

JUL 17, 2005 09:48 AM

I wonder when they decided to get into the terrorist gig. That is, how long were they in undercover mode for, just waiting to do the deed?

lostarchitect

lostarchitect

Brooklyn, NY
January 2004

JUL 17, 2005 09:55 AM

???

that article is merely showing the contrast between what these guys seemed like on the outside and what they were plotting inside. it doesn't attempt to generate any sympathy for anyone, except possibly their families who seem to have had no idea that these boys had this in their hearts.

sadieblackeyes

sadieblackeyes

United Kingdom
June 2004

JUL 17, 2005 10:04 AM

i do not see the bbcs coverage of this as being at all biased and CERTAINLY not in favour of the bombers. lets not be daft eh

Michael_J_Totten

Michael_J_Totten

Iraq
February 2004

JUL 17, 2005 10:38 AM

MisterSatan said:
Maybe Jerry Falwell isn't telling young Christian men to strap bombs to themselves and walk into crowded public areas


No, he's isn't. But he did say the United States deserved the September 11 attacks. Fuck him and all his kind.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

JUL 17, 2005 10:42 AM

Michael_J_Totten said:

No, he's isn't. But he did say the United States deserved the September 11 attacks. Fuck him and all his kind.



He also blamed said attack on the homosexuals, abortionists and feminists. He's a fucking nutjob. He isn't explicitly endorsing violence but he's setting the groundwork that can lead to some serious violent hatred.

hell

hell

Austin, TX
February 2003

JUL 17, 2005 10:56 AM

The writer of this article either sounded extremely sarcastic or terribly misguided. Either way, this article is very unnecessary.
Focusing on the way they were rather than what they did last week is a total waste of energy unless you're a part of the criminal investigation which, in this case, it's necessary to do so.
The extremely shallow and gullible, like the writer of this article, are what create this heated debate between the parties when we really should be focusing on comforting those who are going through so much emotional and physical pain after such a terrible act.
Get over it and do something to help.

Glassmachine

Glassmachine

United Kingdom
November 2004

JUL 17, 2005 11:01 AM

dem_z said:
Vilification of the bombers achieves nothing. Recognizing that real people with real lives turn to extremism is a tiny first step in stopping other people from doing the same.

We don't need to look for the frothing at the mouth loons with hooks for hands. We need to understand why a respected, liked, family man turns away from his life and decides that bombs are the answer.

People are asking "The Muslim Community" to look to themselves to find and stop extremists. They'll have more chance of doing this once they realise that extremists start as normal people; as the well behaved 18 year old son.



Word to the dem. Thafe.

SomethingStupid

SomethingStupid

North Hollywood, CA
March 2004

JUL 17, 2005 11:14 AM

Cigarette said:
I said the same thing about that film that humanized Hitler (I think it was Der Untergang):
If you refuse to accept that someone who commits a despicable crime is a fellow human being with knowledge of good and evil and moral duty, then you are freeing that person from their responsibility. If someone is "pure evil" or "a monster"... well then, you really can't blame them for their actions, can you? You can't really blame a tornado or a rabid dog for their actions, because they are not controlled by free will. If you ignore the essential humanity if one of these bombers, you're relegating them to the category of "force of nature" and you are shirking the responsibility of having to deal with them as humans. It then makes it really easy to say "Find them all and kill them all and that's that" like you would a rabid dog, rather than dealing with the actual human conflict.


Right on the money.

tellyfone

tellyfone

Ithaca, NY
December 2004

JUL 17, 2005 11:20 AM

FreakPirate said:

[Rev. Jerry Falwell] also blamed said attack [of 9-11-2001] on the homosexuals, abortionists and feminists. He's a fucking nutjob. He isn't explicitly endorsing violence but he's setting the groundwork that can lead to some serious violent hatred.



I've always thought of Jerry Falwell as the National Enquirer division of the "religious right".

Seriously, religious fanaticism - any kind of religious fanaticism - will make people do terrible things. Witness the violent crimes of the "Pro-Life" movement.

And how many American serial killers have been "quiet, reclusive, unassuming" types whom no one would have suspected of commiting the terrible crimes that they did?

googused

googused

Portland, OR
OLD SKOOL

JUL 17, 2005 12:11 PM

Everything I've heard says that Bush is a pleasant, affable guy as well.

RustyShackelford

RustyShackelford

I'm lost
April 2005

JUL 17, 2005 12:29 PM

tellyfone said:

FreakPirate said:

[Rev. Jerry Falwell] also blamed said attack [of 9-11-2001] on the homosexuals, abortionists and feminists. He's a fucking nutjob. He isn't explicitly endorsing violence but he's setting the groundwork that can lead to some serious violent hatred.



I've always thought of Jerry Falwell as the National Enquirer division of the "religious right".

Seriously, religious fanaticism - any kind of religious fanaticism - will make people do terrible things. Witness the violent crimes of the "Pro-Life" movement.


Again not even close to the same thing. Maybe if you compared it to the fanaticism of the various communist regimes in history or even some things done in the name of the Catholic Church hundreds of years ago then your point about extremism might hold.





[Edited on Jul 17, 2005 by RustyShackelford]

Olivia

Olivia

STAFF

Oakland, CA

JUL 17, 2005 12:39 PM

So, you think the BBC shouldn't have printed the responses of the family and community of the bombers? Whether you enjoy their sentiments or not, you get to know what kind of people the bombers were, which is very important if you care to find out the circumstances surrounding the attack.

[Edited on Jul 17, 2005 by Olivia]

Glassmachine

Glassmachine

United Kingdom
November 2004

JUL 17, 2005 04:58 PM

Olivia said:
So, you think the BBC shouldn't have not printed the responses of the family and community of the bombers? Whether you enjoy their sentiments or not, you get to know what kind of people the bombers were, which is very important if you care to find out the circumstances surrounding the attack.



Personally, I think the most significant piece of news on this entire subject was the fact that these people had mostly normal, sociable lives.

These guys were obviously pawns, and if we're to believe the reports from across the British press (not just the BBC) then it means that someone has the ability to convince a set of apparently fairly normal (albeit very religious) people to go and commit acts of terrorism in London, (This would probably take years of grooming?) possibly even dupe them into killing themselves in the process (Among other things the fact that bombers purchased return tickets to Luton is fuelling beliefs that the bombers expected to survive the attacks) while keeping it 100% 'under wraps' (family friends, local mosques remain clueless, the bombers had no 'confidants' while these attacks were being planned) and remaining totally anonymous (which apparently is a close to impossible achievement for a covert operative).

Basically, these guys are fucking good at what they do. Or we could be dealing the Jihadist James Bond.

[Edited on Jul 18, 2005 by Glassmachine]

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