I hear courts rarely decide these issues on matters on law anymore, rather they are decided on the basis of the prevailing opinion expressed on litigants Myspace pages.

I loved it!! I'll bet John would have loved it too.

Wow im surprised this is the first time Howard has heard of Suicide Girls.

Nice to hear everyone support her.

2 days off in a row for Artie! Uh oh.

^^^ John Lennon, first

Then Julian Lennon

Then Lennon

Then Sean Lennon

Then, Lenin

Then Yoko.

I understand Yoko has all the money in theworld top try to thwart a newcomer's career and that when it comes to money, the underdog has little chance against someone who can afford to buy the courts out.

That said, she will HAV to buy into a crooked court system to get them to disallow this.

And yeah, what about Beck? Is that his first name?

On that, admittedly, Squire, to this day whenever I hear someone mention Beck I do indeed think of Jeff. so there is that.

But so the fuck what? As far as I know, Jeff Beck doesn't give a flying flooptywoof. And, Beck is indeed calling himself by a variation on his own first name., and I suppose Jeff Beck is coherent enough to realize that Beck Lite has no bearing whatsoever on him.

That's the first time I saw her CD cover. Now I KNOW there shouldn't be any confusion. As a longtime John Lennon fan, I could never assume/imagine that it was an album by John.

Although . . . I do admit the name on the cover might spark my curiosity and I might pick it up and look at it, whereas I might not have otherwise. FWIW.

I figure I wouldn't be the only one (or even the first) to get a Lenin comment posted. I try to show my allegiance to Lenin & Marx from time to time

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There was a similar case to this that I remember regarding Nissan. Nissan.com is owned not by the motor company, but by a guy whose name is actually Nissan. Nissan Motor Corp has tried suing them for the domain name and misuse of name and all that crap. The courts have ruled that he could keep the domain and told Nissan Motor Co to stuff if. They appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court, but were denied an appeal.

It's unfortunate that SG Lennon has to deal with this, but hopefully precedent will be on her side.

Exactly.

-TM

Here's the suit you speak of.

Also that. Anyone w/a brain can tell SG Lennon is in no way trying to associate herself w/John Lennon, aside from the history of her name. She is also not trying to cause confusion due to her name. Reminds me of when Universal tried to sue Nintendo over Donkey Kong.

-TM

Look, I'm not a huge Yoko fan either. But there is nofuckingway she's doing this to thwart anyone's career; what does she stand to gain by doing so? Shit, the fact that she didn't do anything when the offending mark was brought to her attention, and that she had what I can only assume is very competent legal representation who would fill her in on any legal issues concerning the offending mark, arguably demonstrates that she isn't out to piss in anyone's Cheerios. She is only doing what TM law says she must do in order to protect HER intellectual property.

And "buying the courts out?" Drivel. Anyone who has spent any time litigating in federal court and has any respect for our legal system would laugh you out of Dodge.

Again, please refrain from referring to the United States federal courts as crooked unless you have any examples or proof thereof. And as I've said, she'd be better off cutting her losses and not buying into anything at all. 'Cause she'll probably lose. Any decent lawyer who isn't out to scheister her out of legal fees will probably tell her the same thing.

I don't know. Did Jeff Beck TM his name? If so, did he take any steps to prevent Beck from using it? Was/is Jeff Beck ever known as "Beck?" Can he provide survey data that demonstrates that people associate the name "Beck" with Jeff Beck?

Arguably relevant, yet not conclusive/decisive.

Irrelevant. This isn't a fucking criminal case. Intent is not at issue.

Fuck people, go and Google, oh I don't know, "trademark," "descriptive," "surname," "infringement," and so on.

My soup is getting cold.

And why don't you check the links I posted that show there is precedent and the court could easily tell Yoko, in much nicer-sounding legalese, to go screw herself.

-TM

I did ABSOLUTELY NO SUCH THING. Read. However, having worked in the court system, I have a lot of respect for it. Amidst that awareness I can not turn a blind eye to the fact that there have been and of course surely are still, corrupt individuals in it, as in ANY business or gorup of people. I find it hard to believe you think everyone in the court system is honest. Maybe those in the courst system that have been caught were all set up and are all quite Saintly, but I personally doubt that.

I doubt Jeff Beck trademarked his name, as he would likely be able to see the possiblity that others might happen to have the same name ansd he would be a huge ass to do so.

As far as I know, Jeff Beck was only known as "Beck" in groups, like "Clapton, Page & Beck." And Beck Lite is actually named Beck . . well, actually "Bek."

That said, I never heard John Lennon go by "Lennon," either. I HAVE heard him called "John," as in "John, Paul, George & Ringo" or "John & Yoko."


While I'm no huge Yoko fan, I've never had anything against her, and in fact, enjoyed immensely one of her art exhibitions years ago, and an old friend of mine who has interacted with her at somewhat less than a 'friend" level, but more than just an "acquaintance," thinks the world of her.

BUT . . . I just can't see the problem with someone naming their band after their name and wanting to protect that nwame. If John Lennon had a band called Lennon, I'd hope he would have done that. But he had the Plastic Ono Band, and some old quartet from Liverpool that never quite caught on before that. NOT Lennon.

If Lennon seemed to be trying to sound like John or pass herself off as him or called her band "John Lennon," then yes, there should be an issue made.

I DO see your point, though. When the young Beck started to get big, EVERYONE I knew to a person - no exceptions - immediately thought Jeff Beck had put out something new - unti they heard it.

Maybe it's the same with Lennon. There may be a few who think there's a new John Lennon album out, but since he was never called "Lennon," and has been dead for nearly 30 years, I oubt it.

As I admitted earlier, I might be inspired to pick up an album by someoen named "Lennon" purely because of what John Lennon has meant to be, just as I looked at an album by young Beck just because I was a Jeff Beck fan and the name, although from the album cover, like with Lennon's, I can easily dismiss any assumptions that it was a JEFF Beck album.

But I will digress this much. Due to what I just said, it could be looked upon by hungry lawyers as capitalizing on John Lennon's name, although if said lawyers have any awareness of Reality and have the acuity of a grade schooler, they could fathom that Lennon HAPPENS to be her name.

Anyway, please google the judicial system for corruption, and while a wonderful system it is, you will be sure to find that there have, despite your protests, been - and will continue to be - many cases of corruption.