Maybe rock stars don't really know that much about politics and what to do to about global environmental policies so WHY ASK THEM? If people give a shit they should GO INTO POLITICS. This kind of event does an awesome job raising awareness FOR THE BANDS INVOLVED. Nobody attends this shit not knowing or caring about global warming and walking away trying to do something. Not one. The Who have done some pretty shitty stuff since...the first few albums, but points for honesty here.

Never ever?

No, I merely cited those examples as a statement that the earth WILL get past whatever we've done to it, eventually. Oil is a shorter recovery time compared to plastics and nuclear waste. Need proof, look at the smog-plagued cities of the 70's and how they've improved in the last 30 years with clean-air initiatives and regulations on emissions from autos. If it didn't recover, by now there'd be considerably less oxygen in the air you and I breathe. There'd be a helluva lot less ozone, and a helluva lot more cancer out there, too. The earth will heal, regardless of WHEN or how quickly we run out of oil, it'll just get it over with faster if it's all used up quickly.

All our current efforts toward fixing the environment are geared toward making the earth's oil supply last longer-- more fuel-efficient cars, like hybrids, flexfuel vehicles, plastics that are less dependant on petroleum in their menufacture, etc. Which is fine with the oil companies, since it keeps their money rolling in longer. They fake a gasoline shortage, hike the prices, complain to the public that there's less and less oil every day, and every quarter report RECORD profits. They make more money on less oil. Well, if it's all gone, then what? The oil companies have other means of making money, and they'll use them instead, but for now oil is their golden-egg-laying goose. Instead of stretching out the inevitable, which is what the oil companies want anyway, why not just use it all the hell up and get on with the cleanup?

I was excited when I saw the news headline, hoping Roger had the sense to see the facts and realize there is no global warming phenomenon. I was saddened to see he was just a lost crybaby looking for attention. Isn't he pushing 60 by now? I have one word for him...IRRELEVANT.

I would urge everyone here to view the BBC Special on global warming, called "The Great Global Warming Swindle". It will open your eyes to the farce that is global warming. It's a myth dreamed up by the environmentalists to scare people into doing something about the environment. Are there climate issues that need to be addressed? Yes. Is global warming the key cause of these climate issues? A resounding no.

Some facts: A volcanic eruption in 1991 spewed more Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere than all the CD launched by humans over the history of the Earth. In the U.S., a 30-year period from 1940 to 1970 produced falling temperatures even though CD increased. At the time, there were predictions of a new Ice Age. CD, which is a greenhouse gas, makes up less than .005% of the total gases in the atmosphere. The portion produced by humans is a miniscule part of that .005%. The general consensus among most climatologists is a rise in sea level of about 25 inches by the year 2100. This last fact must've escaped Al Gore and Vanity Fair, as the scaremongering about epic floods and disasters has been well-documented.

Here's a link to the BBC special (and BBC is not exactly a right-wing nut news organization). http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170

All I am searching for is the truth.

I mean really, how can we rely on computer modeling for weather predictions when those same models can't reliably tell a weatherman what the climate will be TOMORROW, let alone in a hundred years? Today is Saturday and the weather prediction in DC was for scattered showers throughout the day. Nothing. Nada. Zippy. Went to the baseball game and not a drop fell from the sky.

this "moron" might not know that, or maybe he does. either way, how are all of the artist going to get to this venue? true some might take "alternative fuel" vehicles, but what about ones from out of country, or from really far away. how are all of the promoters and Tech crew going to get there? how are all of the people buying tickets going to get there?
then you also have to think about all the waste afterwards.

I used to be a sound tech, the largest event I ever worked was just over 1000 people, but the clean up was retarded.

don't get all pissy everyone, I know that since this is for the earth they will have people there to sort all the trash and make sure everything that can be is recycled.

all the fuels burnt in getting people there kind of make this a little retarded. I don't care how many carbon credits you buy (that whole thing is the most retarded idea ever thought up) it's going to add more crap to our air.

That was not a BBC documentary, it was shown on Channel 4 in the UK (not a BBC station) and was completely torn apart in the press after its broadcast. Not least by one of the scientists on the show that said he was completely misrepresented and did believe in global warming caused by humans.You can read his comments here.

Brits that people "are aware of global warming but millions are not doing anything about changing their lifestyles."

I find that very fucking ignorant, as the amount of parody coming out of America over Global Warming existance is staggering when we've know about, and accepted it for many many years....without a great deal of proof

Well, we are all aware of it.

If you're gonna make the effort, actually do something. Instead of telling people what they already know.

I'd say continuing to force the issue to the forefront of people's minds is doing something. Would it really be more likely to do the planet good if Al Gore shut the fuck up, stopped organising concerts, stopped making documentaries, stopped giving lectures, and just made sure he did all his recycling and turned off the lights when he didn't need them? I 'knew' about global warming, but I still learned a lot from An Inconvenient Truth, and it did make me more conscious of the choices I was making that effect the planet. There are plenty of people that don't know, there are plenty of people that don't believe - just look at toddlcox's comments in this very thread. Making people aware is a good thing, educating people is a great thing, and even if you don't agree with either of those, it's still could well be a fucking great concert. Foo Fighters and Beastie Boys in London, I was sad I didn't get tickets People put on concerts for no reason other than profit every day and that makes people really happy, why would it piss people off that they're doing it for charity, or in an attempt to save the world?

the main reason americans are suddenly getting eco conscious is because gas prices are astronomical. take a look out your window and see all the suvs and you will realise a lot of the recent eco freaks out there got that way cause it costs them 100 bucks to fill up their massive tanks. recent studies said that oil may be replenishing itself a living byproduct of the earth so the gas people will be in business for quite awhile. california with it's obnoxious smog laws has done a number on cleaning up the environment. take a look at l.a. when i was growing up the sky was a thick dark orange on the best of days. in the last 15 years it's looking better it's still a busy city. there are laws in place for the refrigerants going into our ac systems to phase out the old nasty stuff damaging to the environment and the new stuff is supposed to be better (but still not supposed to be let off into the air). there are plenty of little things people can do.

we are coming out of an ice age its going to get warmer. the bees are dying and harder to keep around. mass consumption of garbage foods filled with hormones so your chicken breast can be the size of your foot. everybody is lactose intolerant now. bananas are going to be killed off in the next 20 years due to some sort of banana virus. no more fish in 30 years due to overfishing with no replenishment time, what the fuck is tilapia and why am i only now eating this shitty fish and why does salmon cost as much as it does. how come we cant afford to own land anymore and why wont the 5 people that have it sell it for reasonable prices.

there are plenty of man made problems out there global warming may or may not be affected by us but shit there are plenty of things we should focus on to make this place better to live. fuck global warming that seems to be a natural occurance. howabout finding a different cell frequency that doesn't confuse the bees. or a cure for the banana virus that's wiping out a significant number of trees. it's time to blow up the world and let it heal so we can repopulate and fuck it up again.

When you think back to biblical times, when Adam and Eve talked to that snake, it was hot back then too. Why do you think they were naked? You didn't hear Adam and Eve running around talking about emissions standards.

I just don't believe in that. It would be nice if the problem would solve itself once the oil is gone - but there is so much oil! The sources we alreaady have are enough to destroy the climate - and we are still looking for more!

If the average temperature rises with six degrees, we're pretty much fucked. This has happened once before in history, and 95% of the species died out. And the temperature could surely rise even more, and there is a point when life just can't exist anymore. Maybe the atmosphere will begin to cool at last, but what if no one will be left to enjoy it? There is a point where everything is too late.

And even if this concert will be fueled green, how will the stars get there? By train? Not likely. Sometimes, the best thing you can do to save the earth is to stay at home.

"I don't care about pollution
I'm an air-conditioned gypsy
That's my solution
Watch the police and the tax man miss me
I'm mobile
I'm mobile"

Daltrey got his point across about 40 years ago. Al Gore still rocks and I'll take 1/2 reunited Smashin Pumpkins over 1/2 of the still living Who anyways.

Hear, hear. Right on. We should be focusing on other issues, like alternative fuel sources (hydrogen) and pollution dissipation. I noticed with glee where all the Dems got on their high horses and rushed to the neares gas stations in their black SUVs to rail about recent gas prices. Funny stuff.

Instead of scaring people by saying their city will flood in a few years, just let the gas prices continue to rise. Believe me, that will cause change, as ziggycash so wonderfully stated. Follow the money.

Yeah, the concerts are.. but what about all their byproducts? Cars driven to and from by attendees, fuels used for food production from vendors. Waste management.. The event itself may be green, but the people attending aren't nessissaritly.

Plus I don't think he was opposed to the concert itself.. more likely the concept that it will have any tangible effect beyond a bunch of celebrities giving each other hand jobs for their social cause du jour. Once it's over, everyone will move on to the next social / environmental fad.

China, India and any 3rd world industrialized countries in the world don't give 2 shits that Madonna wrote a pro environment song, and it will have zero effect on their environmental policies. Let alone the millions of people in the world who rely on non green technology to survive.

It's just a big jerk off. They'd be more useful taking all the resources going into this concert, and use them to help create viable alternatives to the policies they oppose.

As someone stated before everyone is "aware". It's been shoved down the throat of every Western culture for the last couple years. I like Al Gore, and I actually agree with his general viewpoints. I just think a concert is a played out gimmick that won't do shit.