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You're Taking Me Back Such a Long Long Long Time Ago

SUNDAY FEBRUARY 26 2006 3:00 PM

Submitted by Dr_Frank. Edited By Dr_Frank.

Steven Rubio discusses the inevitable failure to recreate the sound of the past, even when you have all the tunes:

One example of my obsession with the music of 60s FM "underground" radio is that I have constructed an ever-growing Musicmatch playlist featuring the songs of that time. It's currently up to more than 87 hours of music. I put it on shuffle play and enjoy.

But I'm stymied by my attempt to recreate the past. Part of it is the missing DJs ... I don't mind the absence of ads, but it would be nice to have the voices of those days as part of the show. But even weirder is that the music sounds too good. I spent most of the 60s listening to the radio on little mono tabletop models barely bigger than a book, not to mention the station didn't always come in very good. When I listen now, with my subwoofer booming, it's not the same. Same songs, but not the same sound. And it never will be, of course.


I know exactly what he's talking about here. The biggest influence on my early development as a rock and roll appreciator and wannabee participant was the experience, in the late '70s, of huddling around my little portable radio, riding the tuning knob in an attempt to pick the occasional punk rock song on this or that unidentifiable, distant, barely tuneable college station.

Listening to these very songs on my iPod or on my stereo isn't nearly the same. Like Rubio's 60s FM songs, they sound too "good." No static, no white noise, no drop-outs. (Well, OK, if I try to listen to them on my stereo from iTunes using Airport Express, there are drop-outs. They're not the same kind of drop-outs, though.)

Also, I already know what they are. The sense of discovery, of falling into something you've never heard before, is missing. I remember hearing a song called "Mental Masturbation" on KALX, Berkeley, around 1978. If there was a back-announce, I missed it. The identity of the band that did this song was a deeply fulfilling unsolved mystery till, ten years later as a DJ myself, I interviewed a member of the band whose demo it had been from. (It was the Nuns. And I might have known. But I didn't.)

 

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theseeman

theseeman

Asheville, NC
December 2002

FEB 26, 2006 04:04 PM

If you go back in time make sure any companions understand that safety is no guaranteed.

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

FEB 26, 2006 05:44 PM

Sattelite radio is your friend. On Sirius, Little Stephens' Underground Garage alternates stuff like punk, modern garage rock, and classic girl groups and garage rock.

One thing though, I constantly have to flip through the stations I like as there's no station that CONSISTENTLY plays what I like.

Faction aggravates me by alternating punk with rap and just plain lousy kid stuff. Sometimes the 60s stuff on Underground Garage wears thin. The Vault sometimes plays Lou Reed, the VU and Beefheart but then it can get into Grateful Dead type shit for hours on end. Mostly I listen to First Wave (mostly cool stuff from my growing-up years) or the NPR talk stations.

The stations all have DJs. Some better than others. I like Handsome Dick Manitoba's show on Underground Garage. The guy's a fucking legend and has great musical taste. I think I may have met him once a few years back.

saintverlaine

saintverlaine

Hollywood, FL
April 2003

FEB 26, 2006 05:46 PM

The human effort of a dj actually choosing what happens, the in the moment flow of one song to another, is largely missing in most radio.

It has nothing to do with when the songs were recorded, but rather, as Rubio alludes to, the possibilities that existed in radio then.

Some stations still have shows that have that feeling of anything can happen, but it is the antithesis of commercial radio.

MaryCeleste

MaryCeleste

I'm lost
September 2004

FEB 26, 2006 05:49 PM

Thats why I sometimes listen to some old big band or blues stuff on my tiny little tape player (Panasonic RQ A200). You don't have to listen to everything on an iPod or big ol' stereo. Mix it up a little.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

FEB 26, 2006 06:48 PM

Well, that's a, uh, damned shame.

That dude, uh... he has my condolences, I guess.

No DJs or cracks or hisses. That's, uh... a damned shame.

HenryC

HenryC

Philadelphia, PA
November 2003

FEB 26, 2006 09:38 PM

eh, i just think he misses not being OLD

Buster_Bluth

Buster_Bluth

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

FEB 27, 2006 06:12 AM

Maybe this guy could try prank calling himself, or maybe honking a horn and blowing a kazoo whilst listening to his plalist. Maybe that would get him closer to that "DYNAMITE" DJ sound. whatever

alansmithee55

alansmithee55

Canyon Country, CA
December 2004

FEB 27, 2006 09:05 AM

Ya mon, I can dig it.
For me, there was a certain sense of romance in the early 70's of switching the radio to FM. And late night, finding what were called underground radio stations. The excitement of hearing songs that would never be played on AM and all the DJ's sounded like Tommy Chong.
I remember two songs even today. One was 'don't try to lay no boogie woogie - I'm the king of rock and roll' by long john baldry. And the second was a story song about the Titanic and how the first mate was carrying around a smoldering length of rope made out of hemp. He turns the captain on, they get high ...and sure enough the Titanic hits an iceberg. Very funny song, never heard THAT one again.

nobodaddy

nobodaddy

Burlington, VT
August 2003

FEB 27, 2006 09:17 AM

You might like these WABC airchecks.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

FEB 27, 2006 10:37 AM

Really, that's why god invented college radio//internet radio/podcasts/etc.
Get over it.

Dr_Frank

Dr_Frank

Oakland, CA
May 2005

FEB 27, 2006 10:58 AM

OK, Clov, I'll try to get over it.

nobodaddy

nobodaddy

Burlington, VT
August 2003

FEB 27, 2006 11:27 AM

Clov said:
Really, that's why god invented college radio//internet radio/podcasts/etc.
Get over it.



He's saying the same songs sound different than they did on the Panasonic Toot-A-Loop for example.

allyn

allyn

United Kingdom
July 2004

FEB 27, 2006 03:30 PM

nobodaddy said:

Clov said:
Really, that's why god invented college radio//internet radio/podcasts/etc.
Get over it.



He's saying the same songs sound different than they did on the Panasonic Toot-A-Loop for example.



Re: Toot-A-Loop

Hey! We used to have one of those!


"...1260, KYA!!!..."

smile smile smile

[Edited on Feb 27, 2006 by allyn]

nobodaddy

nobodaddy

Burlington, VT
August 2003

FEB 27, 2006 04:51 PM

allyn said:

nobodaddy said:

Clov said:
Really, that's why god invented college radio//internet radio/podcasts/etc.
Get over it.



He's saying the same songs sound different than they did on the Panasonic Toot-A-Loop for example.



Re: Toot-A-Loop

Hey! We used to have one of those!


"...1260, KYA!!!..."

smile smile smile

[Edited on Feb 27, 2006 by allyn]



My sister had one. I love the way they look. I wish I had lots of disposable income to by old crap like that from ebay...

pearldiver

pearldiver

San Antonio, TX
November 2005

FEB 28, 2006 09:42 AM

Of course it is not the same. That was then, this is now. Even FM radio at its best is full of compression and expansion and limited bandwidth.
And before the cd, music was recorded and crafted with the intent of listening to it through a turntable, for the most part. To transfer those old master tapes to cd gives them much more separation than the original engineers ever intended. Amongst other things. And the 70's dj experience will not be recreated. Some might say that is a good thing. I remember dj's back in the day sneaking out back for a joint, and hearing several minutes of a skipping copy of Peanut-Butter Yoni. Perhaps the worst part was that without a rooftop antennae, FM radio always had a huge distortion component. You could deal with that, until the inevitable (and often) obnoxious commercials. If the music was at a comfortable and enjoyable listening level, the ads blared uncomfortably loud. But at least back then, the advertisements were about different things. Today, all radio and tv seem to be for goddamn car dealerships. And the occasional hypothetical penis enlarger/enhancement pills.

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