I still don't see why what amounts to a woman in a bathing suit ( I know , it may be underwear , but it covers the same parts so whatever ) needs to be pulled . Where is the controversy here , really ?

Apple decided to stop selling a product through their app store, is that right? Why is outrage being manufactured over this again?

Probably because people think you should be able to put what you want on your own phone and creating some bizarre moral standard is asinine.

Well, not really. The question is whether or not a private entity's refusal to traffic in certain products actually constitutes imposing a moral standard on others. As in, if I don't want to sell porn in my store, am I imposing a moral standard on my customers? Again, is Suicide Girls imposing a moral standard on us by not trafficking in hardcore porn?

Reaper was answering a different question. He was answering "why is outrage being manufactured over this" as opposed to "do people think Apple is imposing a moral standard."

Additionally, it is, at best, a bizarre standard, since Playboy apps with underwear and SI apps with swimsuits are still availabe. At worst, it's big kid/little kid hypocrisy.

I agree with you that creating some bizarre moral standard is indeed asinine, but isn't it their service and they can choose to implement said asinanity (is that even a word? I don't think it is) as they see fit?

I think the problematic point here is that only apps bought from the Apple store can be installed on an un-hacked iPhone. The question is inhowfar a manufacturer who sells you an electronic device has the right to impose arbitrary restrictions on your use of that device. If they had said "okay, we won't sell this in our store anymore, but if people buy it elsewhere, it will still run", there wouldn't be many complaints.

There are really two things at work here. The first is Apple deciding what it will and won't sell in its store. That's fine.

The second is Apple's belief that people are idiots and will fuck up their devices if allowed to install whatever software comes along. Understandable, because it's mostly true.

It's just when the two things work together that there's the appearance of censorship.

^^^ Well said! It's the conflation of technical approval and content approval that's the problem.

Well at least Apple can't prevent me from saving pics of my favorite SG's... Still though, kind of a crappy situation the way companies like Apple and the Telecos utlimately control the media that is available to their customers. I suppose one could "jailbreak" their device but then it wouldn't make a difference for getting apps like the ones Apple has recently blocked. LAME!

True. And yeah, their 'standard' is definitely bizarre.

I'm surprised they just don't have a separate section available for users who can attest (or whatever) to the fact that they are 18+ and have that content available there....whether it be for language, nudity, or whatever.

It's not like you can't buy songs through Apple that have the word "fuck" all through them.

Screw Apple.. Blackberry apps please?

This would make far too much sense.

From what I understand in other contexts, though, this is less symptomatic of Apple making bizarre moral judgments and more that they seem far too willing to yank apps under the least pretext. For example, there's this guy going around trying to scam people into paying him money to use "Edge" in their product names or whatever because it's "his." Apple receives a letter from this guy, who has zero ground to stand on, and yanks the apps he's targeting. This has happened repeatedly.

whatev.