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Speak Geek to Me: Thanks for the Memories

Tags: movies, 1980s

I have always been a creature of habit. I will watch a beloved TV show or movie multiple times, like slipping into a favorite pair of fuzzy socks. When I was a kid, we subscribed to HBO and I was in heaven with the movies and shows that I enjoyed playing not just once, but multiple times in a month. I could watch the featured movie several times and Fraggle Rock three times a week (although it bugged me that I always seemed to miss The Beast of Bluerock, and the fact that I remember that, but not the last name of one of my college boyfriends, is scary indeed.)

When it was summer, step back, cause I could watch damn near anything at any time. I was a pretty vanilla kid –– I didn’t really do much my parents forbade me. So I didn’t use HBO to watch naughty movies, but I did watch an awful lot of TV. And one summer I remember clearly, June was the Month of Willow.

You remember Willow, right? Val Kilmer. A redheaded warrior. A baby. A little guy. Those are all the details I remember, but I remember loving it. I loved it so much I think I watched it every time it was on. And I don’t have HBO these days, so I don’t know how their programming goes, but at that time, that meant a LOT of showings.

But even with these warm memories, I don’t want to watch it these days. I don’t even want to rent it for my kid, unless she watches it without me. Because I know from bitter experience that, seen through adult eyes, the movie will suck…

I’m not saying it was a good movie then. I’m saying I didn’t care. And there are many movies from that era that I saw and loved but today don’t hold up. We recently rented Labyrinth, and while David Bowie still has an amazing allure of The Goblin King (and what preteen girl didn’t feel herself getting sexually aware in viewing this movie and Bowie’s tight outfits?), the movie doesn’t stand the test of time. Now I feel it's insipid, and I’m too cynical to buy the true friendship plotline. And then the end was shallow, because theme of growing up kinda gets shattered when your room is full of muppets at the very end.

I like kids’ movies these days. I have enjoyed everything Hayao Miyazaki has put out, from My Neighbor Totoro to the darker Spirited Away. I enjoyed taking my kid to see Nim’s Island, even though it required a bit of suspension of disbelief. Jerry Seinfeld’s Bee Movie was wretched drek, with dangling plotlines and a main plot that was too uncomfortably close to bestiality –– or would that be insectiality? –– for my comfort.

But the key here is my daughter liked it, just like I liked Willow, Superman III (and I remember seeing Supergirl more than once, but I’m pretty sure I hated it), and the Beastmaster. And my common sense is telling me that I should not see these movies again, I should let them stay in my memory where they were fascinating tales of adventure and magic and superheroes and plot holes and weak characters couldn’t ruin things like they can as an adult.

Part of me is sad. We all know you lose innocence with experience and knowledge. And frankly, if I thought that these movies were examples of strong, compelling plotlines and incredible conflict and characters that live on in your memory for years to come, then I might as well just forget ever becoming a writer for real. So it’s good that I understand that this is not strong writing. It’s good that I can now appreciate better movies. But it’s sad that I can’t watch these movies again with the trusting, wide-eyed view of a child who believes that something wonderful is about to happen, since the same thing happened last week.

And now it’s strange the way I look at some stories. I can suspend my disbelief and enjoy some things - things I know from the beginning are likely not terribly good. In fact, friends had told me Johnny Mnemonic was the worst movie ever, and I went into it expecting something scatologically horrifying, and ended up enjoying it. On the other hand, I watched half of the pilot of Fringe this week, the new show from JJ Abrams, and was disgusted with the basic characterization - especially of the BAD HOMELAND SECURITY GUY. He may as well have worn a T-shirt that said I AM YOUR FOIL, I AM HERE TO MAKE YOUR LIFE HARDER, AND THEREFORE MORE INTERESTING TO THE VIEWER. I probably would have enjoyed it more, except that it had Abrams’ name attached to it, and therefore I expected a lot more.

I am not a movie snob. Heck, I even liked Solarbabies when it came out, probably because I was a roller-skating kid and that movie was about science fiction AND roller skating kids, and how can you not have a hit with that? While perusing Rotten Tomatoes, though, I discovered it needs to stay in my memory as something neat instead of be revisited like I was re-watch Real Genius or Star Wars; that site gives it 0% on the tomatometer.

I’ll keep my memories, thanks.
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Mur Lafferty is an author and podcaster who recently released her first novel, Playing For Keeps. She Speaks Geek every month on SuicideGirls.com. Click HERE for more of Mur's musings.

 

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Calypso

Calypso

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

SEP 15, 2008 09:04 AM

I couldn't agree more with what you've written...especially about "Willow." I haven't actually seen the movie in nearly 15 years, and I certainly don't mean to ever again.

And, when the day comes that I spawn, I'll stick to more contemporary kids' movies and Disney classics. You can't go wrong with "Aladdin," "Sleeping Beauty," and the like. I used to watch "Mary Poppins" three times a day as a child, and it's still a great flick.

Evilgasm

Evilgasm

Netherlands
April 2007

SEP 15, 2008 09:22 AM

This actually made me want to watch "Willow" again blush

I have always been able to totally loose myself in movies (Unless it gets REALLY bad like Bay's Transformers, that pushes even me to my limit). The movies I loved as a kid I can often still watch today with just as much enjoyment, all be it for different reasons. After all, some movies are good simply because they are so bad.

Especially the 80's ones. biggrin

Maybe I'll sit down next weekend with the kid and watch "Willow". Just to find out...

drsnidely

drsnidely

Johnson City, TN
March 2007

SEP 15, 2008 09:39 AM

Willow is just as good as you remember it. Really. Sit down and watch it again.

JekyllAndHyde

JekyllAndHyde

Baltimore, MD
April 2005

SEP 15, 2008 10:20 AM

drsnidely said:
Willow is just as good as you remember it. Really. Sit down and watch it again.



Seriously, Willow still rocks. I even pop in the soundtrack in my car every now and then.

Cassiel

Cassiel

Aurora, CO
September 2004

SEP 15, 2008 10:42 AM

You liked 'Solarbabies.' Really?

mightymur

mightymur

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 15, 2008 11:12 AM

I know it's terrible for me to think so, but back in college a couple of guys in the theater department told me I had to see "Prospero's Books" - and it turned out they were fucking with me. That was one of the worst movies ever. Now that people are pushing me to re-watch Willow, I'm ... skeptical...

And Cassiel, yes, I admit it. And I know I should never watch it again.

DucksAreCrazy

DucksAreCrazy

Lexington, KY
December 2006

SEP 15, 2008 11:19 AM

It's not always time that ruins a movie, but multiple viewings. I really loved Rosencrantz and Gildenstern Are Dead the first time I saw it, but I watched it again a year or two later and it just seemed meh.

ArtificialJoy

ArtificialJoy

Edmonton, AB
September 2003

SEP 15, 2008 12:34 PM

I had a similar experience with Night Breed. I had never seen it before but my roommate was absolutely in his glory after having found it on DVD. I take a look at the cover, directed by Clive Barker, based on a novel he wrote, how could we go wrong?

30 minutes into the movie he turns to me and says "Wow dude, I'm really sorry. I remember this being .... good"

Mark_plus_Beer

Mark_plus_Beer

United Kingdom
August 2005

SEP 15, 2008 12:36 PM

heh i liked Bee Movie blush

Embeth

Embeth

United Kingdom
August 2008

SEP 15, 2008 12:48 PM

DucksAreCrazy said:
It's not always time that ruins a movie, but multiple viewings. I really loved Rosencrantz and Gildenstern Are Dead the first time I saw it, but I watched it again a year or two later and it just seemed meh.



Really, I'm the opposite with that movie. I liked it when I first watched it and over the years it seems every time I watch it again I find new things to love.

I find comedies tend to date the quickest with me, what can seem charming on one watch becomes grating pretty quickly. Nothing like watching a film and thinking 'How did I laugh at this?

xazapdmytinu

xazapdmytinu

Fort Collins, CO
July 2007

SEP 15, 2008 04:26 PM

While Labyrinth lost some of its edge with age (Although being an enormous fan of Jim Henson and an aspiring filmmaker colors my world a lot) I feel as though, provided they haven't been jaded by today's special effects extravaganzas, a child watching it would enjoy it fairly thoroughly. Willow didn't fall apart as much to me. Surprisingly though I find myself scoffing at the themes and characters in the early star wars and indiana jones films (Well, the latter get scoffs too, but that's not nearly as uncommon). Even Forrest Gump can be tedious. To put it plainly nostalgia puts a rosy tint on anything. You can be sure when you look back and watch a movie you love now in twenty years you will likely not feel the same way about it. That doesn't mean they are poorly made, it simply means that you've grown up.

ardour

ardour

Ottawa, ON
March 2006

SEP 15, 2008 04:44 PM

I wouldn't think myself a movie snob either, but I do hate shitty movies.

There are lots of kids movies that I don't really enjoy, but I can still tell they're decent movies... just not aimed at me.

JuliusChurch

JuliusChurch

Ashland, PA
November 2005

SEP 15, 2008 05:34 PM

I still like the movies I liked back then but on a much different basis. Solarbabies, Goonies, Labyrinth, The Wraith are still valued movies of my film library. Willow has probably aged better than most though.

spyder13

spyder13

San Francisco, CA
October 2006

SEP 15, 2008 07:14 PM

A classic late 80s fairy tale movie that will stand the test of time - The Princess Bride. "Have fun stormin' the castle."

JuliusChurch

JuliusChurch

Ashland, PA
November 2005

SEP 15, 2008 09:29 PM

spyder13 said:
A classic late 80s fairy tale movie that will stand the test of time - The Princess Bride. "Have fun stormin' the castle."



Agreed!

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