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Sci-Fi Techs Versus The Iraq War

SATURDAY MARCH 8 2008 10:58 AM

Submitted by DevilsReject. Edited By Zoetica.

TAGS: Robots, Moon bases, Geek, Tech

Whether you are an advocate of the Iraq War or not, you have to admit that it is extremely costly to be involved in. The cost at the present moment is just under $493 trillion dollars. That's right trillion dollars.

Wired.com recently wrote an article about 10 Sci-Fi Techs We could have if they weren't so expensive. I've put a little spin on it, so the reader can actually get an idea of how much money is being spent on the Iraq War.

These are a few Geek things we could have built for less than what we have spent to date.

A Gundam Meca:

A what? If you're an Anime fan, you know exactly what this is. A Gundam Meca, in non-Anime lingo is basically a giant killer robot.

Someone went ahead and did it: calculate the cost of constructing a military-grade giant robot. The result, when you throw in flexible aluminum alloys, seven engines, thirty helicopter motors and a computer fast-thinking enough to keep it upright.



If you are having trouble imagining it, this should help:



The pictures still doesn't do it justice. The robot is described to be 60 feet (18 meters) in height, and it weighs and estimated 43.4 metric tons.

Cost: $750 Million (non-armed)

We could build an army of them for what we have spent to date on the Iraq War. Granted, they wouldn't be built out of Gundanium, but it would still be pretty cool.

An Orbital Hotel:

A hotel that orbits the earth and can sustain human life.

Leave it to the Brits. After decades of disengagement from human space exploration, it recently reversed its position—to propose a lounge for the station.





Now that would be a cool vacation. Of course a week long vacation orbiting the planet Earth would cost the traveler a cool $10 Million dollars, but having the option would be nice!

Cost: $1.2 Billion

We could have a chain of hotels in space for what we have spent on the Iraq War.

Supersonic Travel and a Maglev NY/LA Express

The Concorde fleet has been decommissioned by British Airways because of the high cost of jet fuel and maintaining the fleet.

With the retirement of Concorde, the only supersonic commuter airliner, 2-hour trips over the Atlantic are a thing of the past. It's perhaps the first tech to go from sci-fi to reality and right back again, all in the space of a generation: no zombie apocalypse required.



The Maglev is basically, a train. A ridiculously fast train:

Maglev carriages, forced along by magnetic fields instead of traditional propulsion systems.....In everyday use, modern Maglev systems manage about 260MPH....



Travel would become quick, no more 9 hour flights, or 24 hour train rides, we could travel the U.S. and abroad in a minimal amount of time. As long as security doesn't hold us up, telling us water is bad.

Cost: $7.6 Billion, if you were to revive and repair 20 Concorde Supersonic Jets and build a Meglev rail from New York to Los Angeles.

We could revive and maintain a fleet of supersonic jets, fuel them and build a super speed train for a fraction of the cost of what we have spent on the Iraq War.

Last, but one I personally would like to see built the most.

A TransAtlantic Tunnel:

What better way to travel from the United States to Europe than a tunnel? No flight delays, no airport, and I would only have to take my shoes off if I wanted to. That and I could finally drive to that SGLondon Event to meet all the girls overseas! (or underseas?)

a sleeper express between London and New York, right? An immersed tube under the Altantic could cost half a billion dollars a mile, about three times the cost of a modern bridge.

We're already looking at about $1.6 trillion dollars, at that burn rate—and this doesn't account for the precipitous drops at the continental shelves, or, indeed, the engineering problem of deep-ocean tunnel immersion.



Isn't it scary that we could build a tunnel at a half a billion dollars a mile, and still not put a dent in what we have spent on the Iraq War?

Even if they were to build it under the sea floor, the traditional way a tunnel is built:

If you're thinking of cutting a tunnel the traditional way, under the sea bed, it gets even crazier. Extrapolating the cost of the Channel Tunnel, built in this fashion, and the price lands somewhere in the $10tn region.



It's $10 Trillion. For what we have spent on the Iraq War, we could build 49 tunnels from New York to London, and still have some change left over.

Cost: $11.6 Trillion if both were constructed (I like options, so we have the above sea floor scenic route, and the underground tunnel route)

Chances are, due to cost, I will probably never see these things implemented in my life time. The goal of this article was to get people to realize how much money we are spending on war, when we could be spending money on things that really matter.

Granted most of the things I have mentioned in this article don't
really matter. Money used on the Iraq War could be put towards better and more helpful things for the human race.

I am by no means an advocate of the Iraq War. I do realize that some of that money spent on a daily basis goes towards our soldiers that were wounded, or unfortunately killed while serving. No amount of money can replace a leg, an arm or psychological damage done.

Money can't replace a lost loved one, and I am sorry that money is all we can offer the family, or the soldier that has served our country. I firmly support every soldier that serves our country, and want to say Thank You.

If you are reading this, and you are not registered to vote, quit wasting time and go register. Please remember, when you are at the polls this year, that things need to change in order for us to stop wasting money and lives. Your vote does count, your vote does matter, you can make a difference.

DevilsReject is looking forward to a new U.S. Administration. He won't tell you who to vote for, but he will say: Yes We Can!

 

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Trevor

Trevor

Iraq
July 2003

MAR 08, 2008 09:44 PM

Yesterday one of the projects officers in my unit came by my office to ask me how much it costs to make a webpage. We go back and forth on it for a while, discussing variables like complexity, hosting costs, bandwidth and hosting costs, etc. What it boiled down to was a local Iraqi community leader wanted $2500 a year to put up a blog detailing goings-on in the neighborhood and announcements related to community.

The silly thing about it? The first two lines of soldiers in the approval process for the funding saw absolutely no issues with that.

-T

Trevor

Trevor

Iraq
July 2003

MAR 08, 2008 09:47 PM

Shalome said:

Phantom_medic said:
People dont seem to realize that that 500 billion doesnt just go toward "killing people". That money is also paying to rebuild Iraq. We're trying to give the Iraqis clean water, sanitation, and education. just because its department of defense spending doesnt make it money for killing people.



Yep, we're very nicely attempting to give them back the infrastructure they already had years ago before we got there.

Good thing there's no way we needed that money here in the US!




Hush you. It's their own fault. If they hadn't built so many nice building in the first place, there wouldn'tve been anything for our bombs to ruin. tongue

GrayRains

GrayRains

El Paso, TX
January 2008

MAR 08, 2008 11:13 PM

So what is the cost that Iraq is having to pay for then...? Yes yes the USA voted for a President willing to gut the USA and helped turn it into Milton Friedman's wet dream, but what is the total cost that that Iraq has to pay? At least money wise, since that is the main thing the the USA cares about. O_o

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

MAR 09, 2008 03:21 AM

GrayRains said:
So what is the cost that Iraq is having to pay for then...? Yes yes the USA voted for a President willing to gut the USA and helped turn it into Milton Friedman's wet dream, but what is the total cost that that Iraq has to pay? At least money wise, since that is the main thing the the USA cares about. O_o



One of the goals is to get a stable economy set-up in Iraq. I *think*, without putting any research into it, they are finally profiting from the oil rich land. They are setting up police forces and government services. The country does have the potential to be a rich country, with all the oil, they just need calm and peace to figure it out, not car bombs and mass killings.

One of my issues with the deal is that we are trying to force a democratic government on them, rather than let them figure out what type of government they should have.

ohash

ohash

Columbus, OH
May 2007

MAR 09, 2008 09:01 AM

DevilsReject said:
One of my issues with the deal is that we are trying to force a democratic government on them, rather than let them figure out what type of government they should have.



First, great article...

Second, this is also one of my issues. It makes sense in a way because democracy appears to have worked well for us, that we would want to push it on others. But, taking into account the culture...perhaps...oh...a gerontocracy would work better? The Iraqi children are taught from a young age to have respect and admiration for their elders...they maintain this through adulthood. This is only one example. There are about as many types of government as there are countries...I think it's up to each to figure out what works best for them.

Mark_plus_Beer

Mark_plus_Beer

United Kingdom
August 2005

MAR 09, 2008 02:41 PM

damn i want me my own gundam , 90% sure i would use if for evil though

BatAttaK

BatAttaK

Tampa, FL
OLD SKOOL

MAR 09, 2008 02:53 PM

DevilsReject said:
An Orbital Hotel:

A hotel that orbits the earth and can sustain human life.

Leave it to the Brits. After decades of disengagement from human space exploration, it recently reversed its position to propose a lounge for the station.



Well they had to do something with Frank when he got banned from The Jockey.

spyder13

spyder13

San Francisco, CA
October 2006

MAR 10, 2008 09:02 PM

Thanks for the "your vote counts" ending. It is much needed.

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