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Wil Wheaton's Geek in Review: Carded.

WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 10 2007 12:00 PM

Submitted by WilWheaton. Edited By WilWheaton.

TAGS: Video Games, Laws, New York, Jack Thompson

My wife and I are both in our mid-thirties. We have two kids, one of whom is in college, but we must look young, because we still get carded in restaurants, bars, and even at the market. It happens so frequently, we’ve made it into a contest, to see who can get carded most often, and in the most unlikely circumstances.

This last weekend, I pulled ahead in our contest, when I was carded at the mall, while attempting to buy a video game.

“Wait.” I said to the cashier. “You’re carding me for a video game?”

“Yeah,” he said, “It’s an M-rated game. I have to.”

“I’m 35,” I said. “This is hilarious.”

“I’m sorry, but my manager is standing right there, so . . .” he said.

“Well, I don’t want to be a dick, and I don’t want to get you into any trouble.” I said. I reached into my wallet and handed him my ID. “But isn’t this sort of lame?”

The manager nodded. “It’s the stupidest thing in the world, and it’s all because of the Grand Theft Auto thing.”

“Hot Coffee, right?” I said.

The cashier handed me back my ID, and turned around to get my game out of the Big Drawer of Games We Don't Want People To Steal.

“Did it strike you guys as a little weird that parents groups and politicians were totally fine with the violence and criminal behavior in GTA, but as soon as their precious little children – who shouldn’t have been playing the game in the first place – could see some crappy simulated sex, they lost their fucking minds?”

They both laughed. It was clear that this was a regular topic of conversation in the store, among employees and customers alike.

A young couple walked up to the cash register next to me. The guy excitedly held a copy of Madden in his hand, while the girl – clearly a long-suffering Xbox Widow – patiently waited with him.

“I mean,” I continued, “don’t they know that their precious little children have access to far more explicit sexual material online? They’re worried about a simulated polygonal sex act while little Timmy can get all the bukkake he wants with three clicks?”

The guy next to me stifled a laugh as the manager finished ringing them up.

As they walked out of the store, the girl said, “What’s bukkake?”

The three of us at the counter didn't try to stifle our collective laugh.

“That’s not even the worst part,” the manager said to me. “Check this out: if I sold a minor alcohol, I’d get about a $300 misdemeanor fine. But they’re trying to pass a law in New York and here in California that would make it a $1500 fine and a felony for me to sell this game,” he held up the game I was buying, Dead Rising, “to the same kid.”

“That’s fucking retarded,” I said. “Laws like that have already been struck down in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Michigan, and Illinois!”

“Oh, we know,” he said, “but that’s not stopping them from trying in pretty much every state.”

“Thank you Jack Thompson,” I said.

The cashier laughed. “That guy’s an idiot.”

“And get this,” the manager said, “if a kid comes in here and tries to buy an M-rated game, we have to tell him that he has to come back with a parent, but when he comes back with a parent, I can’t sell the game to the parent, because he’s going to give it to the minor.”

“What?”

“Yeah,” he said, “try to figure out the logic there.”

He handed my game to the cashier, who put it into a bag while I signed my credit card slip, no doubt joining a long list of potentially dangerous future criminals who will one day go on a zombie-killing rampage across the country, armed with hockey sticks, pie plates, and cash registers. I held my breath, and wondered if anyone would read the Minority Report.

“Well,” I said, as I put my wallet back into my pocket and picked my subversive contraband, “thanks for being our nation’s eleventh line of defense against children with parents who aren’t involved enough in their lives to pay attention to ratings and decide what’s appropriate for them.”

When I got home, I had my staff send me some Internets with information about this proposed New York law. What I read was chilling:

The latest bill proposed in New York would actually make selling or renting a game to a minor which has "depraved violence and indecent images" a class E felony. What is that exactly in prison time? According to New York penal law, "For a class E felony, the term shall be fixed by the court, and shall not exceed four years." However, it must be over one year imprisonment to be considered class E. But wait, it gets better. "Depraved" is defined by the bill as anything showing "rape, dismemberment, physical torture, mutilation or evisceration of a human being." So, many M rated games would fall under this category. Boiled all the way down, this new law would have a kid working at Gamestop, Best Buy, or the local Blockbuster potentially get sent to OZ for 1 - 4 years because he sold or rented a minor an M rated video game. With politicians like these, who needs Jack Thompson?



Do these politicians even know what they’re doing, anymore? Or are they so busy pandering to the authoritarian nanny-staters that they’ve lost their collective minds? It’s bad enough that they think video games are as harmful to minors as alcohol abuse, but they actually want to put people in fucking jail for up to four years for selling a game? The only thing that surprises me, to be honest, is that I haven’t heard any of these opportunists invoke 9/11 (9/11! 9/11! 9/11!) as some justification for this insanity.

Look, I’m a parent, and I am also a gamer, so I know what my kids are playing, and when they're playing it. I also know that there are thousands of parents who aren’t gamers, who rely on ratings to know what’s appropriate for their children. I also fully support retailers not selling M titles to children, the same way I support movie theaters not selling tickets for rated R films to minors. But making it a felony to do so? That’s outrageous.

It's especially stupid and wasteful, too, since it will most likely be struck down in New York like it has been everywhere else, because, according to common sense and the judge who granted a preliminary injunction against the effort in California:

The evidence does not establish that video games, because of their interactive nature or otherwise, are any more harmful than violent television, movies, internet sites or other speech-related exposures.

Although some reputable professional individuals and organizations have expressed particular concern about the interactive nature of video games, there is no generally-accepted study that supports that concern. There has also been no detailed study to differentiate between the effects of violent videos on minors of different ages.

The court, although sympathetic to what the legislature sought to do by the Act, finds that the evidence does not establish the required nexus between the legislative concerns about the well-being of minors and the restrictions on speech required by the Act.



There are real problems facing children in America, like underfunded, overcrowded schools, a criminal lack of health insurance, abusive parents, and Hannah Montana. If lawmakers are really going to try to “protect the children,” they should stop wasting their time and our money pandering to those who think video games are the new heavy metal music.

Wil Wheaton has a warm, secret, fuzzy heart. In a box under his bed.

 

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Ticktockman

Ticktockman

Raleigh, NC
April 2006

OCT 10, 2007 02:58 PM

Heh, friends of mine at work were carded at a restaurant bar a few days ago. One is 54, the other is 45 or so. They asked why they of all people would be carded and were told that carding one patron and not another had resulted in complaints. So they asked the bartender to speak up when asking for their IDs. He obliged -- "May I see some ID young lady?" -- and was tipped handsomely.

-TTm

bluegiant

bluegiant

United Kingdom
October 2006

OCT 10, 2007 03:04 PM

Sooooo...let me know if I'm getting this right.

For selling a game to a minor that shows "rape ..., physical torture, mutilation", they're gonna put you in prison with a bunch of guys who want to rape, torture and mutilate you...is that correct?

hellomrworld

hellomrworld

Westbrook, ME
December 2003

OCT 10, 2007 03:08 PM

We are living in Bizarro world .. here in Maine they are carding 65 year olds for cigs and beer ..

And a felony for renting GTA is absurd ...

formerviking

formerviking

Denver, PA
May 2006

OCT 10, 2007 03:34 PM

Just as long as I can keep playing the Elder Scrolls series all is ok . But I'd love to drop a bomb on most parents I see , does this make me a bad person ?

hadees

hadees

Austin, TX
December 2003

OCT 10, 2007 03:49 PM

Ironic that some people don't think the state should be giving our kids to have health insurance seem perfectly alright with the state doing the parenting job instead of knowing what games their kid is playing. I want to know where these kids are getting like $60 for the games and if it is the parents why aren't they asking what the money is for.

WADO

WADO

Brooklyn, NY
March 2006

OCT 10, 2007 03:53 PM

I just love how many Hannah Montana digs I've seen just in the last 24 hours.

allgeorfedup

allgeorfedup

Dearborn Heights, MI
June 2007

OCT 10, 2007 04:26 PM

ortho7117 said:
Well I think it's a good thing to jail people for selling this filth. Once the precedent is set, then it will be much easier to jail all other smut peddlers, alcohol peddlers, etc. Jail them for life without parole. Can't they see that alcohol prevents our children from being able to go out in the world and become something? In fact, we should just execute the offenders who sell these violent games to our dear children. We should do whatever it takes to show that we are against violence and killing.



I'm going to assume you're a master of sarcasm, otherwise you've just won the idiot of the year award.

BrodyNinjaLips

BrodyNinjaLips

Cardiff By The Sea, CA
February 2007

OCT 10, 2007 05:42 PM

mydogfarted said:
Dead Rising rules!



That was response when I read the article. That and "Jesus sweet goddamn that's so rediculous."

Metaverse

Metaverse

Portland, OR
March 2005

OCT 10, 2007 07:09 PM

I love the girl asking her boyfriend what bukake was lol.
Hannah Montana is a serious problem for sure. But in all seriousness, it comes down to parents being involved as you said. My parents were always involved, and I'm glad they were.

imclever

imclever

Kent, WA
February 2007

OCT 10, 2007 07:25 PM

Wait.

Wil has a STAFF?

Awesome. Where do I apply?

Taxidermyd

Taxidermyd

Los Angeles, CA
February 2007

OCT 10, 2007 07:51 PM

This whole thing just gives me that special holy fuck kinda feel.

jonze

jonze

Storrs Mansfield, CT
December 2005

OCT 10, 2007 08:47 PM

I got carded a couple years ago for buying Diablo 2. I needed to be 13+ to buy the game....
...I was 22 and in the Navy. Fuckin' Wal-Mart.

MschfMayhemSoap

MschfMayhemSoap

Phoenix, AZ
April 2006

OCT 10, 2007 08:49 PM

Sadly, no joke, the most vocal US politicians on the subject of video game violence claim that their experience with gaming has been Pong.

*sigh* Oh Discordia

idais31

idais31

Las Vegas, NV
February 2005

OCT 10, 2007 09:34 PM

and just think back in the day when those senetors were kids they watched bugs bunny dressing up as a girl and playing with dynomite and elmer fudd trying to shoot and kill bugs bunny and daffy duck.
and look how they turned out.
ARRR!!!

Korrupt338201

Korrupt338201

I'm lost
July 2007

OCT 10, 2007 11:37 PM

They think GTA is bad... WoW is what they really need to be worried about...

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