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Plotting Attraction Theory



Sex is a form of communication. You could strip away everything and compare it to anything from holding hands to instant messaging but that would not be fun, and who wants to strip away the stuff that makes sex fun? Not me. The point I'm trying rush into is that with sex, like other forms of communication you have to decide who to communicate with, for how long, and what you want to walk away from the communication with. This is where attraction come into it - and why this attraction theory graph is so interesting:



My friend Zadi sent that out to friends the other day and most of us laughed and that was that. I thought it was amusing and showed it to a few other people and everyone seemed to have their own take on it. Some people commented how dead on accurate it was, others suggested it was bullshit right away. One friend of mine, who is male, instantly wrote it off until it was suggested that maybe it was made by a girl, which changed his perspective on it right away. Of course the science of who we are attracted to isn't so simple, but this is an interesting spark of an even more interesting larger discussion. The more I thought about it, the more I thought that the folks here on SG might have some good insight and could help mold it into something better.

After showing the graph in it's current form to a handful of people I had a good bit of starter feedback. The biggest issue I heard from people right away was the fuck buddies part. First of all, very few people actually have fuck buddies. And they certainly aren't in the same proportion to people they consider "just friends." I understand where that came from - opposite ends of a spectrum. People you want to talk to and people you want to have sex with. The thing is those two are not mutually exclusive, and someone you want to have sex with but don't want to talk to doesn't instantly become a fuck buddy. So clearly that's a misclassification to look at. I also heard that there wasn't enough awkwardness and it wasn't enough places.

It's also worth looking at what point in a relationship this graph is trying to speculate on. I know I have friends that I'm physically and mentally attracted to, which would plant them firmly in the "dating zone" yet I'd never date them. I also know people who might have fit in one area when I first met them, but the more I got to know them them moved to another, so this has to look at a small snapshot of time, rather than the span of a relationship. I'd say first 24-48 hours of meeting someone perhaps.

Taking these comments into account, I whiped up a quick revision, which looks something like this:



I changed fuck buddies to one night stands, because I know lots of people who have had one night stands, and very few who actually have fuck buddies. Also a one night stand seems like a more plausible outcome of the "want to have sex with but don't want to talk to" problem. And I added a ton more awkwardness because, um, you know. Yeah.

Even with those changes, it still seems like it's not quite there. Maybe missing something, maybe trying to fit too much in there. It makes you think, but doesn't make you agree. I'm hoping this is where you can help. What is there that shouldn't be. What's missing. What's in the wrong proportion. What isn't lining up. The more feedback I get the better. If we can put together something that makes more sense I'll release it on the web and credit it back to everyone here. What do you think?

 

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ThatTalentedHack

ThatTalentedHack

San Antonio, TX
July 2007

AUG 06, 2007 11:51 AM

perhaps an 'X' marks the spot and little "You are Here" icon in the middle of awkwardness... tongue
Other than that, I like it...

lavenir

lavenir

Turlock, CA
June 2007

AUG 06, 2007 11:54 AM

Saraphine said:
Or maybe it's supposed to mean you aren't attracted to anyone at all? confused

Kinsey's "X"?

larose404

larose404

Columbia, SC
January 2004

AUG 06, 2007 12:24 PM

I think there need to be some arrow leading from one section to the other with probability ratings on them, like 0.005% chance of progressing from 'Just Friends' to 'Fuck Buddies' or 0.00000000000005% chance of progressing from 'Just Friends' to Dating Potential', which BTW, I think there should only be one of (the one on the lower right hand side) because no one ever reeeeaaaallly moves from 'Just Friends' to 'Dating'... or do they? Maybe I'm just being pessimistic and eating sour grapes right now.

Also, maybe there should be some enabling factors on these arrows, like on the arrow from 'Fuck Buddies' to 'Dating Zone'. your probability of progressing could be proportionately related to how much of an asshole/psycho you are...

Damnit- there I go being pessimistic again wink

SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

AUG 06, 2007 01:30 PM

I think the zone of pain should be triangular and extend across the entire map through all the zones coming to a point in the null set.

Evilgasm

Evilgasm

Netherlands
April 2007

AUG 06, 2007 02:19 PM

This idea has stuck in my head... So here is my take on things.



(sorry for the image size... you can either right click or click here.)

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

AUG 06, 2007 02:34 PM

Upon reflection, you should do one of these that applies when sober, and one that applies after five beers or more.

Drakyn

Drakyn

New Providence, NJ
September 2006

AUG 06, 2007 03:39 PM

I think It doesn't work in 2D.

There some other factor besides mental And physical, and it's on the tip of my tongue but I can't recall it

Towelly

Towelly

Philadelphia, PA
January 2007

AUG 06, 2007 03:42 PM

12AngryBadgers said:
Good stuff. Although I think it should go a little more like this:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)



(Shit. Sorry it doesn't quite fit. Click here to open in new window.)



Thanks for setting off my epilepsy.

And the zone of pain is really just what happens when five beers or more turn Danny DeVito or Bea Arthur into the Venus de Milo with the mind of Simone de Bouvoir (or some such like that). It's the arm-sawing section of the rogue's gallery.

Arielle

Arielle

SUICIDEGIRL

Antarctica

AUG 06, 2007 03:57 PM

I think the time notion is missing.

As I was actually talking about that article with a friend.
I don't really have one night stand, or sex with people I don't know, if you prefer.
Most of the time, when I fuck someone, it's someone I know and I hang out with people I am mentally attracted to.
So the more I am mentally attracted to someone, the more I wanna fuck that person. And sometimes, if I don't find someone particulary attractive at the beginning, if I am mentally attracted to that person, I can become physically attracted to.

So there's a dimension that is missing in that graph to be closer to the truth. But pretty good job!

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

AUG 06, 2007 04:03 PM

The zone of pain is where you get yr hatefucks.

d20

d20

San Francisco, CA
September 2003

AUG 06, 2007 05:17 PM

revised:

zoom image

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

AUG 06, 2007 05:37 PM

SonOfAPunk said:

TheFuckOffKid said:
The inclusion of one-night stands is an improvement.

But why, in both diagrams, does "awkwardness" lie between "dating potential" and "dating zone"?



Do I date her?

Am I overcommitting myself?

Does she feel the same way about me?

Do I take it to the next level?

Etcetera.


Then you should just slap a big filter over the whole thing that says "awkwardness". There's no reason you wouldn't have those exact thoughts even if you were much higher on either axis, and therefore supposedly out of the awkward zone.

Also, why does the graph have a section where you're kinda physically attracted to someone so you're friends with them without liking them mentally at all? Does anyone actually do that?

SonOfAPunk

SonOfAPunk

Maple Ridge, BC
January 2006

AUG 06, 2007 05:51 PM

apesamongus said:

SonOfAPunk said:

TheFuckOffKid said:
The inclusion of one-night stands is an improvement.

But why, in both diagrams, does "awkwardness" lie between "dating potential" and "dating zone"?



Do I date her?

Am I overcommitting myself?

Does she feel the same way about me?

Do I take it to the next level?

Etcetera.


Then you should just slap a big filter over the whole thing that says "awkwardness". There's no reason you wouldn't have those exact thoughts even if you were much higher on either axis, and therefore supposedly out of the awkward zone.

Also, why does the graph have a section where you're kinda physically attracted to someone so you're friends with them without liking them mentally at all? Does anyone actually do that?



Yeah, kind of doesn't seem like it applies to the general public... I just had a thought of what it meant (that I'm experiencing as we speak). Hehe.

I actually know of a few people that only hang out with attractive people. They use the words "like" and "totally" more than anyone I've ever heard of. And they watch The OC and live off of other peoples' paycheques...

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Oh... And like, I totally almost forgot. Happy Birthday. I'll buy you The OC's first season. I like, totally love that show...

TimmyToe

TimmyToe

USA
August 2007

AUG 06, 2007 06:17 PM

I think if you add a bridge some where in the middle to connect the dating zone into the just friends spot, cause it can happen, ya just gotta bridge that awkwardness. and dating potential should be bigger, it should touch both the just friends and the dating zones, cause I have chick fiends that have dating potential but I don't date, and obviously if you date them then they got dating potential, so actually that could be the bridge I was talking about. Another thing, there should be a small spot for marriage potential on the friends spot, and there should be a place to put "creepy," most likely along the one night stand, just friends and fuck buddy spots, like a small thin strip so to speak.

well thats my take on it, laters

Timmy

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Mokena, IL
January 2005

AUG 06, 2007 06:35 PM

d20 said:
revised:

zoom image



Much win.

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