fucking censorship

good with things like watersheds and rating movies

but for coprate greed.... its as anoying as fucking political corectness...

Mick

The're christmas decorations not fucking winter festival light...

Yeah, I noticed the YouTube switchover,
but they're still kinda fucked when I try
to watch things.

And the realplayers are all screwed up
for me. They look all crappy, but they
still kinda work sometimes.

Why do so many people automatically think that total freedom of speech is some inalienable right on websites such as myspace or SG?

You can't say whatever you want. You don't have that right. You have to follow the rules that the particular site sets out with regard to what kinds of content you can post. If you want to continue using that site, you must adhere to its rules. If you don't like being censored on that site, then leave the site and start your own web server and say whatever you want.

hmm id hardly call it censorship, more just them not wanting to advertise their competitors and whats wrong with that? i mean in laymans terms and site related its like being a tattooist and having some ink on you that was done by an artist at another studio then suggesting they go there

In the United States we have this little thing in the Constitution otherwise known as the First Amendment, which actually does state freedom of speech is a right.

Worse yet, News Corp is a media company, they are the media. Regardless of who is signing my paycheck, the media should never censor the existence of competitors.

hahaha you believe the constitution is still in effect.
the constituion is like one of those old laws like you cant wear shorts on wednesdays.. only invoked when an asshole you want to peg is doing it.

I agree one hundred percent. It goes beyond not wanting to advertise competitors... Mr. Murdoch isn't exactly on the up-and-up. Its like calling Fox News "fair and balanced".

My only question is why there has been so many Myspace bashing articles (which I love by the way), when SG is a big supporter....

Isn't MySpace privately owned by News Corp? I believe that gives them the right to choose what they want to place on their site in terms of advertisement/content.

The First Amendment, people would be surprised to know, isn't something you can invoke whenever things don't go your way. If you're offering something to the public, you can put whatever you want out there -- but it's still in another person's private rights to not place it within their own forum. Should News Corp. have deleted the blog forum with the censorship discussion? Probably not. But they can choose what links to their own web site.

Besides, if people don't like it, they raise their voices and it gets changed back. Which is a little thing called a democratic process.

In the end, you do have a right to say whatever you want. But everyone else has the right to not speak of it in their "house".

Lets just say MySpace and I aren't exactly friends.

What part of "Congress shall make no law..." applies to Myspace?

The Constitution doesn't even remotely apply here. Myspace is privately owned, therefore there is no right to free speech when you're on Myspace property.

Can you walk into a store and demand that you be able to pass out advertisements or product samples for another store?

There is no such thing as a right to put advertisements for one establishment inside another competing establishment in the name of antitrust.

That's cool, just don't let your dislike of the company cloud your logic here. I hate MySpace, but this lawsuit is going to get laughed out of court.

if you agree to post stuff on a website, that you don't own, they can censor you. myspace is not an inalienable right.

think of it this way.

if i start a private club. a club that only blonde haired people can join. am i alienating brown haired people, yes. and in that club, i can censor anyone I want.

feel free to make your own club. thats our right as americans. screw myspace, go buy a url, post pictures of yourself, videos, anythign you want, they can't touch you there, and would make the internet better.

heck, all myspace is, is spam you delete from your email anyhow.

No, really? Do you think could make your point next time without being condescending?

Myspace isn't a country. The Bill of Rights does not apply to it. It is a corporation that has a website up. It allows users to post as long the content they post adheres to certain rules. If it doesn't, then so be it if they take someone's post down. Most major public websites have some Terms of Service and posting rules.

Further, myspace isn't the internet proper. Now, if someone told you you couldn't say what you wanted to on your own site on your own server, I'd have a problem with that, and would agree that your 1st amendment rights were being violated. But on myspace.com or SG or any other site that isn't run by you, don't expect to be able to say whatever you want to say. That isn't your right, anymore than it would be to come into my house and paint my walls a different color.

Puppies beat me to it...

That freedom of speech does not apply to Mr. Murdoch's property. You also don't have the right to come to my property (business or private) and speak your mind. If you did, I could have you arrested for trespassing (theoretically). Freedom of speech applies to public property.

Although they shouldn't censor their competitors, it's certainly not illegal.

I'm sure if I advertised a website that competed with SG on my profile page, that SG would have a problem with it.