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Why, is that the camel's back?

Oh Sony, how I used to love you. Why do you break my heart with such foolishness?

This is no different from the release of the PS2 which only came with composite video connections (Yellow, Red, White). For those of us with a TV that only had RF/Cable in, you had to shell out $30 for an RF adapter. I'm pretty sure that was the same for my XBox and GameCube as well.

None of these companies make money on the consoles, it's all the "nickel and dime" crap where the money is (controllers, games, cables, etc), not to mention licensing fees to all the third party makers. I'm not sure if it is still true, but Nintendo used to require developers to pay them to package their games.

I defy anyone of you to find a DVD player that comes with an HDMI cable, This isn't foolishness it's the industry standard.

But with the RF cable they were screwing over their lower income users. Not providing a HDMI cable they are screwing over their high end users who most likely will spend a lot of money. This might not stop them from buying the PS3 but still do you really want to fuck around with the big spenders and early adopters.

i think complaint should be reserved until they announce exactly what they are including in the box. if it comes with component hookups, then that will be more than enough for virtually everyone. sony has caused their own problem here considering their steadfast insistence that the hd era doesn't start "until we say it does, with 1080p and hdmi", but in the land of reality, a 720p or 1080i signal over component is an hd output. i'm completely willing to call bullshit on sony, but this isn't that huge a deal, and the hdmi output on the console uses the same standard as any other device.

now, if there's no component cable, or only really cheap component cable in the box, then the pitchforks and torches will be waiting.

The PS2 didn't come with the memory card necessary to save, so was not capable of usefully performing its primary function (playing games) out of the box. By contrast, the PS3 not coming with a cable that only a fraction of users will have any use for (while coming standard with a hard drive to save on, in either configuration)....not that big a deal.

I'm still not buying one, though.

how exactly are they selling the $100 cable for $10 on that online store? Something smells fishy..

Should be some solid announcements at TGS, this is still disappointing though. I'm holding off till the price drops(£425!) and i get a hold of a fancy HDTV, oh and MGS4.

Because it's actually only a $10 cable,not a $100 cable. If you pay $100 for it, you are getting reamed.

Here's one of my favorite pages on this rough topic:
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/top/audiophile-snake-oil-135700.php

And here's my favorite one of all:

http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C

The original Playstation released in the UK came with no SCART cable. The official Sony one cost £35, and I bought it.

Ugh, it's about as bad as how printers never come with a USB cable.

"you can get one for as little as nine bucks..."

uh...yeah. And you can buy a black and white 5 inch tv to play it on for 30 bucks, but it doesn't mean it'll look good.

All I see is 360 Vs wii at this stage.

I hope the launch titles don't disappoint.

ps3 is looking more and more like a cross between the 3do and philips CDI.