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  • THURSDAY JUNE 15 2006 10:00 AM

RIAA Finds a New Way to Alienate its Customers

Tags: RIAA, YouTube

Someone at the RIAA must have realized there were still a few music consumers it hadn't sued yet, so the organization is going after kids who post videos of themselves dancing on YouTube.

The RIAA is apparently sending out cease-and-desist letters to YouTube users who dare to put up videos of things such as themselves dancing to music they haven't licensed. It's difficult to see how the RIAA can make a credible claim of "losses" in this case. Clearly, some kids videotaping themselves bopping along to some song aren't going to pay a license fee -- and these sorts of viral videos tend to help build up more interest in artists. So what good does it do to go after these videos?

Kids who don't understand that the RIAA is a C&D-happy organization are just going to freak out at the artist they were dancing to, and those kids will tell their friends, "Hey, Outkast sued me because I shook my tail feathers and put it on YouTube! Fuck Outkast!"

By making kids -- who are just getting up and dancing to the music they love -- feel like criminals, the RIAA creates an entire generation of embittered consumers who will be inclined to steal music, simply as an act of rebellion. This can only hurt the artists the RIAA supposedly exists to protect.

This type of legal action may be smart, according to lawyers, but the publicity departments at all the major labels should be on the phones, screaming at the RIAA for this outrageous move.

 

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ProphetNoise

ProphetNoise

Portland, OR
February 2004

JUN 17, 2006 05:14 AM

I'm so glad i have an elaborate plan to destroy the music industry. IT's at 18 pages already, and this makes me want to work on it, expand it, and refine it some more.

I just sucks that my livelyhood is music. meh.

OctoberSeven

OctoberSeven

Downers Grove, IL
December 2002

JUN 17, 2006 08:14 AM

stainedecho said:
Their death as an organization cannot come soon enough.



Quoted for truth.

d20

d20

San Francisco, CA
September 2003

JUN 17, 2006 08:35 AM

ObservingOne said:

cunninglinquist said:
Assholes is the perfect description, can't top that



That presupposes that "assholes" are bad. There are many good uses for assholes. I can't think of any for the RIAA.



that reminds me of a lawyer joke that can easily be adapted to this situation:

1: did you hear that they're usuing RIAA employees instead of lab rats now?
2: really?
1: yeah. people like them less, and it turns out there are some things even rats won't do.

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

JUN 17, 2006 08:45 AM

SINKING SHIP!

NickBrickett

NickBrickett

United Kingdom
May 2006

JUN 17, 2006 09:00 AM

Makes me glad I'm not human.

bairdduvessa

bairdduvessa

Centerville, MA
April 2005

JUN 17, 2006 06:46 PM

on what grounds can they sue? There is no profit in any of it for the kids doing it, therefore no money is being made...

I don't know how many of you remember but back in the 90's they sued the boyscouts and girl scouts of america for singing songs at camp outs because the children did not pay to sing the songs...

the next group they go after will probably be people who sing in their cars

FrankMask

FrankMask

Saint Paul, MN
June 2003

JUN 17, 2006 07:47 PM

So what would happen is all intellectual property became public domain after 10 years?

softdog

softdog

I'm lost
January 2004

JUN 19, 2006 05:57 AM

Wow. To be pendantic, the sound on these videos is poor at best, difficult to copy and not being used to profit the producers (mostly).

The one group which is out for profit is the site, and apparently their only option is is removal as the RIAA hasn't offered some sort of mass liscensing deal. Of course, given how the RIAA is greedy and unreasonable, it's likely YouTube hasn't asked for one. I'm not even sure they have the money to pay for it at this point.

The RIAA is clearly having it both ways here - they let the videos do some viral marketing for the songs for a while, then they use the C&D as viral marketing for the RIAA's omnipotence.

Here's the thing - they're trying to scare consumers into compliance with laws which are not completely settled. Even recent changes in copyright law contain gray areas and wiggle room like fair use. The RIAA is trying to use intimidation and courtroom manuevers to set the rules. Their also working to change the law below the radar.

I understand trying to ensure artists get paid but this is bullshit.

For example, fair use covers music excerpts which appear naturally in documentaries, but the RIAA has intimidated filmmakers into liscensing everything. The makers of Mad Hot Ballroom had to cut a scene where a kid sang the words, "Everybody dance now!" See here:
http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/transcripts_051906_fairusefollies.html
And a lawyer's reaction on the real law here:
http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/transcripts_051906_cloudyfair.html

The law says that you can use fragments of copyrighted material for a variety of purposes, including news reporting, commentary, criticism. I think an argument could be made YouTube videos might fall under this - as long as they don't use the whole song. Or maybe even if they do.

SleazyWayne

SleazyWayne

Dallas, TX
May 2004

JUN 19, 2006 07:14 PM

No I don't like the RIAA up in me,
They rape my people as they rape my country,
Everything I love and cherish, they try to take away,
We will be rid of them, soon come the day.

Whoop just got a cease and desist order.

Elex

Elex

Sonora, CA
June 2006

JUN 20, 2006 09:24 AM

I hope this means no more attention starved adolescents uploading stupid webcam videos making asses of themselves dancing rediculously.

Am I the only one who sees the bright side?

420NeverForget

420NeverForget

Tarzana, CA
May 2005

JUN 22, 2006 01:45 AM

Not just the RIAA, but the MPAA and the game/software industries keep trying to market stuff that no one wants to buy, and then mistaking falling profits to an increase of piracy. More goes into piracy countermeasures and lawsuits, and less goes into the product, making an even worse product which sells even less, which is of course "due to piracy".

Eventually, this should lead to the death of the industries... but how long that takes depends on how long people will keep buying things from people who treat them like criminals. Could you imagine going to the supermarket and needing to ask the attendant to unlock the glass cabinet with the milk? What if you get home and your cereal box requires you to go online and validate your receipt before you can open the box? Then you would finally get the box open, and theres only half the cereal because the other half of the box was needed to fit a device that unpoisons the cereal when you validate online. Then the cereal is shitty because there was no money left to clean the cereal-making machine.

This is what we go thru for videogames, and its totally unacceptable. Soon movies will be the same, and iTunes is already leading the way in fucking up the music you pay for so you can't use it normally. The only solution is not to pay for any of it. Whether you steal it, or learn to live without is up to you... the way I look at it is I'm already being treated like a criminal, I might as well get the perks of being one too. But please, don't give your money to these people. The more you do that, the more we have to put up with this.

Silveronthetree

Silveronthetree

I'm lost
June 2004

JUN 22, 2006 03:30 AM

this defies logic

missbusk

missbusk

Seattle, WA
December 2005

JUN 23, 2006 12:53 AM

Arrg...I'm a pirate! The only time that I ever buy music is at shows. I know that my 5 or 10 bucks is feeding the band or putting gas in their van, in addition to giving me some new kick ass tunes to listen to. And I love getting a burned cd with the bands name scrawled across it with a sharpie...diy bands are so awesome...

Anyway, we all know that the fatcats who work for the RIAA don't really give a shit about the artists or music that they are "defending." They and the whole corporate music industry are the ones truly practicing piracy-on the consumers and the artists.


I wonder if all those home videos I have with copyright protected music playing in the background are going to get me arrested? I mean that video I posted a year ago of 15 people drunkenly singing along to Bohemian Rhapsody must have cost Queen millions by now, right?
/sarcasm

egon

egon

Las Vegas, NV
July 2003

JUN 23, 2006 05:28 PM



I bought that album after I saw that video. No shit. Free advertizing. I mean, how the fuck else would I have heard that band????

what a bunch of dumbasses

Terratactile

Terratactile

Las Vegas, NV
October 2004

JUN 23, 2006 10:23 PM

Doesn't the RIAA issue a Cease & Desist order to anybody displaying creativity in a music video?


The RIAA appears to be doing their damndest to self destruct, but unfortunately they're incompetent at that, as well.

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