so i'm not allowed to do what i want with these signals that are put over the air for my consumption.

what's next, an EULA on candy thrown out at parades. you can eat the candy now, or put the candy in your right pocket, but you cant put it into the left pocket unless you get written consent, and if you give the candy to someone else, we will sue you.

Next thing you know, putting a CD in my discman will send a signal to the RIAA, and if I lend someone else the CD, they'll sue us both.

what they really meant:

"This is clearly not the proper way to behave," NBC Universal TV president Jeff Zucker told Variety. "We have worked in concert with Apple to benefit NBC and Apple; where others are not working with content providers is clearly not in the best interest of NBC and Apple."

The consumption of this candy includes, but is not limited to, a total acceptance of support for the organization throwing said candy or candies. Any consumption of said candy or candies may be used by the throwing organization (henceforth known as the “tossers”) as a documentable statistic for the furtherance of the tossers as well as an assumption of donation of an unspecified amount by the receivers of the candy or candies (henceforth known as the “suckers”) to be withdrawn without necessity of express consent, specific or inferred, from the suckers’ accounts.

Yeah, I don't get how giving the consumer more options is somehow "against the consumer's best interests".

I can, however, see why NBC wouldn't want you transferring stuff off your TiVo into another format. You're not paying for the content at any point in that process. Wanting to charge you at all isn't the same as wanting you to pay more than once.

yayaya for the corporate world. Always wanting more money and of course less options for us to use the media to our advantage or should i say to our liking.
they don’t understand we already pay for cable and why is it that i cant rec that show and put it on my ipod and watch it at work, rather then watch it at home on my TV.

They suck...


I guess i should just stop paying for cable and buy my shows and that means someone will get fucked over if everyone did this..... the other corporate world cause i wont be watching those bloody annoying commercials.

It's already fairly easy to rip tivo files so they can be played on any portable format - just use Directshow Dump

What about the portable video recorders?

At the moment, I'd say NBC's real problem is figuring out way to get more people to watch their crappy shows not put their efforts into trying to prevent people from doing so.

WTF!
"This is clearly not the proper way to behave..."

Fuck you? According to him the "clear way to behave" is to pay them more money for something you already have?

I wasn't aware that the broadcasting industry had gotten around to printing up the "good Christian corporate consumer" bible yet.
Now it's immoral not to pay for their free shit?

[Edited on Dec 10, 2005 5:22PM]

Shows we record on TiVo that we want to keep forever, we transfer wirelessly to a computer, run DirectShow Dump, then burn them to DVD. Easy.

I'm probably going to be unpopular here but the fair use argument needs to remember that entertainment is a business. How many people here would support my buying SG DVD and making it publicly available to everyone?

Even SG monitors how many IPs you log-in from and how often. The corporations are not worried about individuals who copy the shows to multiple devices for their convenience but they are worried about people who abuse the privilege and based on the history of pirating they have a right to be.

Their are all kinds of artists on this site, don't you agree they all deserve to make a living off their art? If their art can be duplicated without restrictions it will be and that is loss revenues for everyone. Pirating from a large corporation lowers their profit and that affects how much they are willing to pay to the artists and peons who are necessary to produce it.

The industry is scared by the possibilities and right now everything is a knee jerk reaction. The book publishers felt the same way when Xerox machines were being installed in libraries. Even the Government has worried over scanners and printers so perfect that everyone can print their own cash,

There are no easy answers. We deserve the right to take the entertainment we purchase and put it on the media that is most convenient to us. But how do you allow that and make it difficult to pirate?

One thing all of us can do is stop giving and accepting copies of things we don't pay for and delete the ones we already have.


[Edited on Dec 11, 2005 1:24PM]

Well, of COURSE, if they can get you to pay for it...

I spoke to a worker at the Apple Store and he said several programs already exist that convert AVI, MPEG4 and other files into Ipod friendly video files...... he had the new episode of southpark on his Ipod, NO he didn't pay for it, downloaded from Limewire and converted....... Corporate Americas barkin up the wrong tree if you ask me

Well Apple might not be getting money from the videos that are downloaded from your tivo but Apple is benefiting because this means more content for their video iPod. I think this is a win win situation for Apple.