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  • MONDAY NOVEMBER 21 2005 2:28 PM

Google books getting burned?

A rising conflict is developing between Google’s new library project and the authors of the titles being scanned into the database.

NEW YORK (AP)--Google Inc. says it's creating a digital library that will help people all over the world discover books. Publishers and authors say the Internet search engine is committing massive copyright infringement.

The crux of the argument is that Google is scanning in selected portions of copyrighted books from the libraries of such institutions as Harvard, Stanford and Michigan University for inclusion into a searchable database.

The owners of the copyrights to many of these volumes are saying this is a clear infringement, whereas Google argues the database will only contain “snippets” of each book with the intent of “...help[ing] you find (books)-to help you discover them.” Google compares the database to a giant card catalog.

The authors were not buying it.

"The court will find that it's not in fair use," said Allan Adler, AAP's [Association of American Publishers] vice president for legal affairs. "Why couldn't we license this to Google?"

That brought cheers from a divided audience--one that made it hard to separate the protagonists from the antagonists on this hotly contested subject.

Stanford law professor Lawrence Lessig said there were limits to the monopoly publishers and authors hold over their books. "If you controlled everything then we will get less innovation and development," he said.

Worse yet, Lessig said, if either one of these groups settle with Google, that means the next company that comes along with a better idea will have to pay a penalty tax for being creative.

Having known some of the authors of scientific volumes found upon the very shelves in question, and knowing the frequency with which those specific volumes are checked out, I agree with Google’s claim that, “...those suing the company just wanted a piece of the profit pie.” Not a lot of money in a 500 page textbook addressing the research of Hurricane Roessler waves.

Personally, I think Google’s database is a step in the right direction. The ability to peruse an entire University library, including enough samples from the book to determine whether it has the needed information, would be an incredible boon to independent research. Next step...the ability to check out a complete digital copy.

 
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MetaTag

MetaTag

United Kingdom
September 2002

NOV 21, 2005 04:08 PM

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The_Happy_Pig

The_Happy_Pig

United Kingdom
December 2004

NOV 21, 2005 04:19 PM

Read snippets, without paying for the book?

Surely not!!

Who would have thought the fact the electonical intarweb would have made people go out and buy books.

Whatever next? eeek

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

NOV 21, 2005 04:25 PM

So they're worried that the same people who jack off to the free tour without paying the monthly fee will learn all they can from the snippets without bothering to get the actual books?

BurningKrome

BurningKrome

San Jose, CA
April 2005

NOV 22, 2005 12:04 AM

Kid_Dangerbot said:
So they're worried that the same people who jack off to the free tour without paying the monthly fee will learn all they can from the snippets without bothering to get the actual books?


tongue

ShoopDaddy

ShoopDaddy

Los Angeles, CA
November 2005

NOV 23, 2005 12:59 PM

this is just plain dumb. the publisher's will benefit and storing the title page, end page, and part of the table of contents is not copyright infringement.

i'm starting to wonder if copyright protections should be thrown out the window. mickey mouse should be Public Domain by now.

EL SUICIDO LOCO skull

[Edited on Nov 23, 2005 1:00PM]

PixelPimp

PixelPimp

New York, NY
May 2005

NOV 23, 2005 01:15 PM

BurningKrome said:
The crux of the argument is that Google is scanning in selected portions of copyrighted books from the libraries of such institutions as Harvard, Stanford and Michigan University for inclusion into a searchable database.



ShoopDaddy said:
storing the title page, end page, and part of the table of contents is not copyright infringement.



Google is scanning and storing the contents books in their entirety. The "snippests" are only what is displayed in search results to end users.