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Half a Petaflop? What?

Moore's law has been cut by third by IBM's Blue Gene/L by doubling its own performance speed to reach 280.6 teraflops (trillion calculations a second) in six months.

Blue Gene's performance, while it has been under construction, has quadrupled in just 12 months. Each person in the world with a handheld calculator would still take decades to do the same calculations Blue Gene is now able to do every second.

Linton F Brooks from the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) formally unveiled it at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory on Friday. The completed Blue Gene/L joins another supercomputing team-mate, called ASC Purple, to get to work on safeguarding the US's nuclear stockpile.



Not many applications require these large amounts of processing power; ageing calculations, fluid dynamics, and weather modelling are some of the applications that this performance can be thrown at. In Blue Gene's case, it will be running weapon codes.

"The unprecedented computing power of these two supercomputers is more critical than ever to meet the time-urgent issues related to maintaining our nation's ageing nuclear stockpile without testing," said Mr Brooks.

"BlueGene/L points the way to the future and the computing power we will need to improve our ability to predict the behaviour of the stockpile as it continues to age."

Blue Gene will work on materials ageing calculations, molecular dynamics, material modelling as well as turbulence and instability in hydrodynamics.Purple will then use that information to run 3D weapons codes needed to simulate nuclear weapons performance quickly.

Their massive brains will be able to perform half a petaflop together - that is half a quadrillion (1,000,000,000,000,000) calculations a second.



Half a petaflop? First time I've heard it mentioned. Exaflop will be the next one. The list of fastest supercomputers is compiled twice yearly; Blue Gene topped it last time around, too, and has a theoretical peak performance of 360 teraflops. Experts have predicted we'll see a Petaflop computer by 2010.

 

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ILikeBoobiestoo

ILikeBoobiestoo

Apopka, FL
October 2005

OCT 29, 2005 11:54 AM

IMHO the future of computers wont be the speed of single chips, it will be the integration of arrays of processors.

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qw.html

speaking of which im in the market to buy that board for my 3d work tongue

TheRedBaron

TheRedBaron

Cambridge, MA
November 2003

OCT 29, 2005 12:27 PM

ILikeBoobiestoo said:
IMHO the future of computers wont be the speed of single chips, it will be the integration of arrays of processors.

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qw.html

speaking of which im in the market to buy that board for my 3d work tongue



it makes me feel like less of a man.

zenFish

zenFish

Vancouver, BC
August 2004

OCT 29, 2005 12:33 PM

ILikeBoobiestoo said:
IMHO the future of computers wont be the speed of single chips, it will be the integration of arrays of processors.

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qw.html

speaking of which im in the market to buy that board for my 3d work tongue



that, is a insane pc board... 4 dual core chips!? jesus....

/shrugs/ still be happier off with the big bad g5.

as for the above article, i'm glad we finally have the computers possible todo nuke testing in a computer... rather then in the environment... unfortunately we still had to let off a hundred or so previous to this point...

but, hopefully that'll be it.



[Edited on Oct 29, 2005 by zenFish]

desidia

desidia

Reunion
September 2002

OCT 29, 2005 01:44 PM

I still need to get a PC that will run Doom3...

ILikeBoobiestoo

ILikeBoobiestoo

Apopka, FL
October 2005

OCT 29, 2005 02:01 PM

zenFish said:

ILikeBoobiestoo said:
IMHO the future of computers wont be the speed of single chips, it will be the integration of arrays of processors.

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qw.html

speaking of which im in the market to buy that board for my 3d work tongue



that, is a insane pc board... 4 dual core chips!? jesus....

/shrugs/ still be happier off with the big bad g5.

as for the above article, i'm glad we finally have the computers possible todo nuke testing in a computer... rather then in the environment... unfortunately we still had to let off a hundred or so previous to this point...

but, hopefully that'll be it.



[Edited on Oct 29, 2005 by zenFish]



its actually 8 chips, if you install the optional daughter board you can have 8 dual cores, 16 chips.... at 2 ghz a chip that 32ghz worth of processing power

the computer itself would end up costing about $9000 + to support all 8 processors (this is using a minimal amount of ram)

Mobo- 1700
Processor (about $500) * 8 = 4000
Ram (about $400 per 2 gigs) * 8 = $3200

Not to mention the case, software, and misc stuff

[Edited on Oct 29, 2005 by ILikeBoobiestoo]

zenFish

zenFish

Vancouver, BC
August 2004

OCT 29, 2005 03:19 PM

ILikeBoobiestoo said:
its actually 8 chips, if you install the optional daughter board you can have 8 dual cores, 16 chips.... at 2 ghz a chip that 32ghz worth of processing power

the computer itself would end up costing about $9000 + to support all 8 processors (this is using a minimal amount of ram)

Mobo- 1700
Processor (about $500) * 8 = 4000
Ram (about $400 per 2 gigs) * 8 = $3200

Not to mention the case, software, and misc stuff

[Edited on Oct 29, 2005 by ILikeBoobiestoo]




D-amn.

The sad part is, all I can think of for that amount of power... is hey, that probably would make for a really nice gaming rig.

You know, if I had 10k just lying about.

ILikeBoobiestoo

ILikeBoobiestoo

Apopka, FL
October 2005

OCT 29, 2005 03:30 PM

zenFish said:

ILikeBoobiestoo said:
its actually 8 chips, if you install the optional daughter board you can have 8 dual cores, 16 chips.... at 2 ghz a chip that 32ghz worth of processing power

the computer itself would end up costing about $9000 + to support all 8 processors (this is using a minimal amount of ram)

Mobo- 1700
Processor (about $500) * 8 = 4000
Ram (about $400 per 2 gigs) * 8 = $3200

Not to mention the case, software, and misc stuff

[Edited on Oct 29, 2005 by ILikeBoobiestoo]




D-amn.

The sad part is, all I can think of for that amount of power... is hey, that probably would make for a really nice gaming rig.

You know, if I had 10k just lying about.



Or doing 3d work, i did a project for school that was 1200 frames long and it took nealry 30 minutes to render each frame, on that machine the whole thing would have only taken a few hours.

hadees

hadees

Austin, TX
December 2003

OCT 29, 2005 03:33 PM

ILikeBoobiestoo said:

zenFish said:

ILikeBoobiestoo said:
its actually 8 chips, if you install the optional daughter board you can have 8 dual cores, 16 chips.... at 2 ghz a chip that 32ghz worth of processing power

the computer itself would end up costing about $9000 + to support all 8 processors (this is using a minimal amount of ram)

Mobo- 1700
Processor (about $500) * 8 = 4000
Ram (about $400 per 2 gigs) * 8 = $3200

Not to mention the case, software, and misc stuff

[Edited on Oct 29, 2005 by ILikeBoobiestoo]




D-amn.

The sad part is, all I can think of for that amount of power... is hey, that probably would make for a really nice gaming rig.

You know, if I had 10k just lying about.



Or doing 3d work, i did a project for school that was 1200 frames long and it took nealry 30 minutes to render each frame, on that machine the whole thing would have only taken a few hours.




you could always just buy a bunch of cheap $200 computers and setup a render farm. Seems like it would cost a whole lot less then 10k if you did that.

AceTracer

acetracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

OCT 29, 2005 03:40 PM

ILikeBoobiestoo said:
IMHO the future of computers wont be the speed of single chips, it will be the integration of arrays of processors.


That's exactly what IBM's Blue Gene/L, and every computer in the list, is. When IBM was first building the Blue Gene/L, one of the nodes alone ranked near the top of the list. The processors powering their computer are the same ones that will be in all of the major game consoles, as well as several other devices.

ILikeBoobiestoo

ILikeBoobiestoo

Apopka, FL
October 2005

OCT 29, 2005 03:44 PM

hadees said:

ILikeBoobiestoo said:

zenFish said:

ILikeBoobiestoo said:
its actually 8 chips, if you install the optional daughter board you can have 8 dual cores, 16 chips.... at 2 ghz a chip that 32ghz worth of processing power

the computer itself would end up costing about $9000 + to support all 8 processors (this is using a minimal amount of ram)

Mobo- 1700
Processor (about $500) * 8 = 4000
Ram (about $400 per 2 gigs) * 8 = $3200

Not to mention the case, software, and misc stuff

[Edited on Oct 29, 2005 by ILikeBoobiestoo]




D-amn.

The sad part is, all I can think of for that amount of power... is hey, that probably would make for a really nice gaming rig.

You know, if I had 10k just lying about.



Or doing 3d work, i did a project for school that was 1200 frames long and it took nealry 30 minutes to render each frame, on that machine the whole thing would have only taken a few hours.




you could always just buy a bunch of cheap $200 computers and setup a render farm. Seems like it would cost a whole lot less then 10k if you did that.



Not even, a $200 computer would barley be able to process the scene at all.

It would have to be a p4 or better, and it would need 2 gigs of ram at minimum.

You could get more speed out of multiple computers (they would cost more than $200 though) but it would be less usefull than the single computer.

Spaceboy

Spaceboy

Dallas, TX
October 2004

OCT 29, 2005 04:29 PM

Did they ever stop to think about what's going to happen when the computer they put in charge of our nukes becomes self-aware? Didn't any of them watch Terminator or War Games? Hell, things even went bad in Electric Dreams and all that computer was in charge of was the guys apartment.

MistahPrince

MistahPrince

Chicago, IL
February 2005

OCT 29, 2005 04:50 PM

ILikeBoobiestoo said:

hadees said:

ILikeBoobiestoo said:

zenFish said:

ILikeBoobiestoo said:
its actually 8 chips, if you install the optional daughter board you can have 8 dual cores, 16 chips.... at 2 ghz a chip that 32ghz worth of processing power

the computer itself would end up costing about $9000 + to support all 8 processors (this is using a minimal amount of ram)

Mobo- 1700
Processor (about $500) * 8 = 4000
Ram (about $400 per 2 gigs) * 8 = $3200

Not to mention the case, software, and misc stuff

[Edited on Oct 29, 2005 by ILikeBoobiestoo]




D-amn.

The sad part is, all I can think of for that amount of power... is hey, that probably would make for a really nice gaming rig.

You know, if I had 10k just lying about.



Or doing 3d work, i did a project for school that was 1200 frames long and it took nealry 30 minutes to render each frame, on that machine the whole thing would have only taken a few hours.




you could always just buy a bunch of cheap $200 computers and setup a render farm. Seems like it would cost a whole lot less then 10k if you did that.



Not even, a $200 computer would barley be able to process the scene at all.

It would have to be a p4 or better, and it would need 2 gigs of ram at minimum.

You could get more speed out of multiple computers (they would cost more than $200 though) but it would be less usefull than the single computer.



Plus you'll have a bigger e-Penis.

ILikeBoobiestoo

ILikeBoobiestoo

Apopka, FL
October 2005

OCT 29, 2005 04:59 PM

Spaceboy said:
Did they ever stop to think about what's going to happen when the computer they put in charge of our nukes becomes self-aware? Didn't any of them watch Terminator or War Games? Hell, things even went bad in Electric Dreams and all that computer was in charge of was the guys apartment.



writing the code required for a machine to become self aware would take years, if not decades. We dont even understand the human mind completley, let alone recreate it.

Spaceboy

Spaceboy

Dallas, TX
October 2004

OCT 29, 2005 05:37 PM

ILikeBoobiestoo said:

Spaceboy said:
Did they ever stop to think about what's going to happen when the computer they put in charge of our nukes becomes self-aware? Didn't any of them watch Terminator or War Games? Hell, things even went bad in Electric Dreams and all that computer was in charge of was the guys apartment.



writing the code required for a machine to become self aware would take years, if not decades. We dont even understand the human mind completley, let alone recreate it.



You don't write the code for that. The machine is so powerful it does it itself. And by the time the scientists realise what's happened, it's already too late. They'll barely have time to lament their wasted lives before the machine unleashes it's robot army and kills them.

And since you mention it, even the living super-computer won't be able to understand the complexities of the human mind. That's why it wants to destroy all living beings. The joke's on Blue Gene though, because no matter how hard it tries it'll never understand the human emotion called love. That will be it's greatest failure.

ILikeBoobiestoo

ILikeBoobiestoo

Apopka, FL
October 2005

OCT 29, 2005 05:45 PM

Spaceboy said:

ILikeBoobiestoo said:

Spaceboy said:
Did they ever stop to think about what's going to happen when the computer they put in charge of our nukes becomes self-aware? Didn't any of them watch Terminator or War Games? Hell, things even went bad in Electric Dreams and all that computer was in charge of was the guys apartment.



writing the code required for a machine to become self aware would take years, if not decades. We dont even understand the human mind completley, let alone recreate it.



You don't write the code for that. The machine is so powerful it does it itself. And by the time the scientists realise what's happened, it's already too late. They'll barely have time to lament their wasted lives before the machine unleashes it's robot army and kills them.

And since you mention it, even the living super-computer won't be able to understand the complexities of the human mind. That's why it wants to destroy all living beings. The joke's on Blue Gene though, because no matter how hard it tries it'll never understand the human emotion called love. That will be it's greatest failure.



dont write code? im sorry you will have to explain to me how you program an AI without code... that one is beyond me

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