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Ancient Greek Creates Death Ray From Beyond Grave!

According to ancient legend, the Greek mathematician Archimedes (who came up with something or another; maybe he's the first guy who wrote the multiplication table or something, or he invented the plus sign, I dunno) once created a device using a mirror of some type that shot out a death ray that set fire to invading Roman ships. Since then, there have been attempts to reconstruct Archimedes' fabled device. A team from MIT, not distracted by dates or a pesky social life, will try again this weekend.



Massachusetts Institute of Technology Professor David Wallace and students planned to set fire to an old fishing boat from the Hunters Point Naval Shipyard using their own version of the device.

Mike Bushroe of the University of Arizona's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory brought a mirrored system shaped like flower petals, about 100 square feet of mirrors in all.

"If this weapon had worked, it would have been the equivalent of a nuclear weapon in the ancient world," said Peter Rees, executive producer of the Discovery Channel's "MythBusters."

Historical text describes Archimedes defeating a Roman fleet using the ray.

In "Epitome ton Istorion," John Zonaras wrote: "At last in an incredible manner he burned up the whole Roman fleet. For by tilting a kind of mirror toward the sun he concentrated the sun's beam upon it; and owing to the thickness and smoothness of the mirror he ignited the air from this beam and kindled a great flame, the whole of which he directed upon the ships that lay at anchor in the path of the fire, until he consumed them all."



The show "Mythbusters" has already tried this, and failed, so if those two dudes can't do it, I don't see how these people can.

If the device is recreated, expect the Army to deploy it against armies of invading giant alien ants.

 

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sixbysix

sixbysix

United Kingdom
December 2004

OCT 24, 2005 01:35 PM

Screw.

The Archimedes Screw. Makes water flow uphill (in a manner of speaking).

cipher

cipher

Saint Paul, MN
July 2004

OCT 24, 2005 01:40 PM

Mmm...death ray. love

thestral

thestral

Manassas, VA
August 2005

OCT 24, 2005 01:48 PM

Ya know, it makes me wonder. What if they used close-in sabatuers to spill lots of oil or some other flammable liquid into the waters around the ships and merely used the mirror as a long range ignition device? That'd make a lot more sense.

But anyway, I thought I'd just heard that these guys tried it and were only able to create a small flame on the side of the ship that was quickly doused.

imustbestopped

imustbestopped

I'm lost
January 2004

OCT 24, 2005 02:02 PM

thestral said:
Ya know, it makes me wonder. What if they used close-in sabatuers to spill lots of oil or some other flammable liquid into the waters around the ships and merely used the mirror as a long range ignition device? That'd make a lot more sense.



I believe the Mythbusters episode showed that the waterproofing method the Romans used made their ships highly flammable so another source such as oil would not have been needed.

Astrobouy

Astrobouy

United Kingdom
July 2005

OCT 24, 2005 03:21 PM

sixbysix said:
Screw.

The Archimedes Screw. Makes water flow uphill (in a manner of speaking).



And archimedes principle, you know of bouyancy, mass of something-or-other must be less than the mass of water it displaces if it is to float...Didn't he come up with it in the bath, and shouted eureka! and ran down the road in the nud.


Astrobouy

Astrobouy

United Kingdom
July 2005

OCT 24, 2005 03:23 PM

I'll be pretty impressed if they manage this.

The military has been trying for years to do this with lasers, but the problem is that the atmosphere attenuates the light beam over too short a range for enough energy to be incident on the target to do anything. I don't see how they'll manage it with mirrors.

Still, never really know till you try...

FrankMask

FrankMask

Saint Paul, MN
June 2003

OCT 24, 2005 03:24 PM

I know a couple of people have manufactured solar death rays. All you need is nice clear day a lot of mirrors. I think the only limiting factor is range and the expense of constructing a huge parabolic mirror array.

ThisIsWhoWeAre

ThisIsWhoWeAre

Oakland, CA
July 2004

OCT 24, 2005 03:31 PM

Moral of the story: Invade Greece on a cloudy day.

quagmirething

quagmirething

I'm lost
June 2005

OCT 24, 2005 03:33 PM

I recall that there was a piece of modern metal sculpture which needed to be adjusted. It was worked out there was a risk pigeons bursting into flames, in mid air.

skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

OCT 24, 2005 03:36 PM

Ahhhh, performance art!
bok

fictionalsounds

fictionalsounds

Alva, OK
April 2004

OCT 24, 2005 03:37 PM

quagmirething said:
I recall that there was a piece of modern metal sculpture which needed to be adjusted. It was worked out there was a risk pigeons bursting into flames, in mid air.


if true..

best.
sculpture.
ever.

funnyman

funnyman

Cherry Hill, NJ
December 2004

OCT 24, 2005 04:03 PM



quagmirething said:
I recall that there was a piece of modern metal sculpture which needed to be adjusted. It was worked out there was a risk pigeons bursting into flames, in mid air.



forget adjusting the damn thing. they need one in phillytongue

everybodylies

everybodylies

HOPEFUL

New York, NY

OCT 24, 2005 05:32 PM

"so if those dudes can't do it, i don't see how these people can" ..

yeahh, because the mythbuster mastery of the physical sciences totally trumps the talent (but dateless) MIT kids .. whatever

seriously have you watched the show? they are always miscalculating things like how much force it would take to propel something a certain distance .. you failed out of h.s. physics for that back in the day.

Chitin

Chitin

New York, NY
December 2004

OCT 24, 2005 05:49 PM

Actually, somebody's already done it. Except instead of using 1 big mirror, they used like 20 1x1' mirrors. Cool stuff.

filmME

filmME

Vancouver, BC
May 2003

OCT 24, 2005 06:13 PM

ThisIsWhoWeAre said:
Moral of the story: Invade Greece on a cloudy day.



BWAHAHAHAH

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