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Atheists Are Good Without God (And It’s Not A War on Christmas)

by Damon Martin

During the holiday season, atheists in America and Canada are letting everyone know they are still good without God. The message has been spread across buses and billboards throughout North America to send an alternative message during this normally oversaturated time of religious rejoice.

Groups like Secular Samaritan, American Humanist Association, and the Centre for Inquiry are responsible for the Christmas time ad buys. The gospel they’re trying to spread with these billboards is that goodness and morality are not in the exclusive domain of those that believe in a higher power.

Several secular and Atheist groups have done similar campaigns around the holidays before, with many Christians, especially in America, claiming such groups are declaring “War on Christmas.”



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One of the most prominent advertisements that set off such alarms this year was a billboard bought by the American Atheists on the New Jersey side of the Lincoln Tunnel just outside of New York City. The billboard says: “You know it’s a myth. This season celebrate reason.” The Catholic League promptly responded with a billboard of their own on the New York side of the Lincoln Tunnel stating: “You know it’s real. This season celebrate Jesus.”

The Centre for Inquiry in Canada has purchased bus ads and transit signs that state: “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” Below this headline the group lists religious figures like Jesus Christ and Allah, mythical creatures like Bigfoot, leprechauns, and the tooth fairy, and practices such as prayer, astrology and ESP. The group will also be holding in-person educational events featuring expert speakers.

Meanwhile back in the United States, the Secular Samaritans, have purchased ads on buses servicing the campus of the University of Illinois that promote a particularly powerful message. The ads feature public figures such as Bill Gates. The slogan that runs alongside an image of the Microsoft founder says: “Second richest person in the world. Donated over $26 billion to charity. Bill Gates is good without God.” However it’s been reported that some religious folks in Illinois are outraged that the bus ads are allowed to run, regardless of the overwhelmingly positive message.

However such prejudice against the secular community is not uncommon. A poll done in 2006 by the University of Minnesota revealed that over 47% of people surveyed would disapprove of a family member marrying an atheist. Nearly 40% of people interviewed listed atheists as people they would identify with the least to share a vision of American society. Others interviewed saw atheists as “amoral” or involved in criminal behavior or drugs.

Given the religious community’s poor view of non-believers, it’s especially ironic that atheists and agnostics were shown to be the most knowledgeable about religion in a recent Pew Research Center poll. The results of a test which asked Americans what they knew about religion, were somewhat staggering – especially to those who profess to know better. Out of 32 questions posed, on average 16 correct answers were given. Atheists and agnostics scored the highest, just over half of the Catholics knew why they took communion, while Bible-belt Southerners scored the lowest of any identified group.

Some would argue that the billboards and ads are somehow combative and that atheists are trying to take away the religious aspects of the season. Atheists (myself included) are just following the lead of free thinkers like Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris that say we shouldn’t be afraid to talk about our non-belief, even at this time of year. In the end, campaigns or not, atheists will continue to not believe in God, we will continue to believe in science, and, BTW, no one is declaring war. Well, unless you’re Daniel Baldwin.

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If you’re an atheist and want to find like-minded souls, you might want to join SuicideGirls’ Atheist Group (for members only).

Further reading: The Evolution of Religion, Why Women Are Bound to Religion: An Evolutionary Perspective, and Filtering the Truth: Religion – Friend or Foe?.

 

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DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

DEC 08, 2010 07:23 PM

wildswan said:

TheFuckOffKid said:

wildswan said:

ollic said:

wildswan said:

Toku666 said:
Perhaps you could do away with the false assumption that these groups wish to "abolish Christmas." For the most part, atheist groups also do not wish to "get rid of Christianity." For the most part, they just wish that Christians wouldn't attack them for things that are irrelevant, false, or illogically applied.



Indeed.



I have never seen a Christian attack an athiest.




Lies. Rank, industrial strength lies.



Posted in my previous blog by someone who didn't know how to have a political discussion without being abusive. (I was not attacking him for being a Christian, but pointing out that he knew little about the history of the Christian church.)



Oh, pish. The sweet little darling was just telling you to shut yer heathen hole.



I dunno. I am pretty thrilled with the visual i created in my head of TFKO hunched over a keyboard, a week's worth of beard on his face screaming "LEEROY JENKINS!" into the mic of a headset.

Vanessa

Vanessa

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

DEC 08, 2010 08:28 PM

DevilsReject said:

wildswan said:

TheFuckOffKid said:

wildswan said:

ollic said:

wildswan said:
Toku666 said:
Perhaps you could do away with the false assumption that these groups wish to "abolish Christmas." For the most part, atheist groups also do not wish to "get rid of Christianity." For the most part, they just wish that Christians wouldn't attack them for things that are irrelevant, false, or illogically applied.



Indeed.



I have never seen a Christian attack an athiest.




Lies. Rank, industrial strength lies.



Posted in my previous blog by someone who didn't know how to have a political discussion without being abusive. (I was not attacking him for being a Christian, but pointing out that he knew little about the history of the Christian church.)



Oh, pish. The sweet little darling was just telling you to shut yer heathen hole.



I dunno. I am pretty thrilled with the visual i created in my head of TFKO hunched over a keyboard, a week's worth of beard on his face screaming "LEEROY JENKINS!" into the mic of a headset.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

GodUnderSiege

GodUnderSiege

Montreal, QC
August 2006

DEC 09, 2010 02:02 AM

Stanhope said:

[...]

In parts of the world where winters are cold, people almost always have a festival at Equinox. Apparently, that festival serves an important emotional need. If you abolish Christmas to get rid of Christianity, you'd be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Yeah, commercial interests have attached themselves to Christmas, but it wasn't always so; and it will not always be so.



That made me think of this video which I find very relevant with December the 25th quickly approaching!



Heigai

Heigai

Columbus, OH
May 2004

DEC 09, 2010 09:44 AM

I don't think remixes from "Zeitgeist" help the cause all that much.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

DEC 09, 2010 10:15 AM

Toku666 said:
I don't think remixes from "Zeitgeist" help the cause all that much.



DECEMBER 25 IS AN INSIDE JOB, MAN.

Clidna

Clidna

Canada
January 2005

DEC 09, 2010 11:19 AM

It's true! Dan Brown will write a book about it, I'm sure!

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

DEC 09, 2010 02:46 PM

Great, now the war on Christmas has met the war on poopie. Who will win?

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

DEC 10, 2010 01:26 AM

Haaaaahahahaha

Keith

Keith

Hooker, OK
August 2002

DEC 10, 2010 02:22 AM

The frustrating thing is that if you talk to any diehard Christians about the terrible things other Christians do, they'll say something like "Well they're not real Christians." It's a very neat and tidy defense mechanism, as if to say "People who do bad things are atheists whether they claim to believe in Jesus or not." Very convenient. My in laws have said exactly this sort of thing to me. It's very much like the Muslims who say "Al Qaeda aren't real Muslims." Sorry, if you want to believe in your Invisible Sky Wizard, you've got to take the good with the bad, people.

Drama

Drama

Columbus, OH
January 2003

DEC 10, 2010 08:03 AM

Keith said:
The frustrating thing is that if you talk to any diehard Christians about the terrible things other Christians do, they'll say something like "Well they're not real Christians." It's a very neat and tidy defense mechanism, as if to say "People who do bad things are atheists whether they claim to believe in Jesus or not." Very convenient. My in laws have said exactly this sort of thing to me. It's very much like the Muslims who say "Al Qaeda aren't real Muslims." Sorry, if you want to believe in your Invisible Sky Wizard, you've got to take the good with the bad, people.



Send them this list if they ever question was "real" Christians are like

Bible Atrocities

chibamonkeyzach

chibamonkeyzach

Richardson, TX
April 2009

DEC 13, 2010 10:05 PM

DevilsReject said:

FreakPirate said:

Gringo said:
Oh, I get the strategy behind choosing the season/holiday. I just don't agree with it for another reason.

I really enjoy the Christmas season because in general, people seem to be less shitty to one another - regardless of their belief systems. Families make time to spend together (whether that's good and/or bad), and random strangers seem to greet others a little more frequently than other times of the year.

In a world with such a lack of unity, I appreciate the small window Christmas gives us where everyone whether Jewish, Christian, agnostic/atheist, Muslim, or whatever can say, "Hey, hope you are enjoying this time of year" in spite of the fact that the message may be said as, "Merry Christmas," "Happy Hanukkah," "Happy Kwanzaa," or "Happy Holidays."

I'd just rather not fuck that up and overshadowing it with a belief war.



All of this.

Why not go after Easter? It's way more bullshit than Christmas.



Babies are easier to attack than Zombies.

smile



Hahaha, that's awesome

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

DEC 14, 2010 10:37 AM

wildswan said:

MisterSatan said:

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Sallen said:
Think that's bad, try explaining to people that your a deist And believe that there is a higher power but you don't belong to any of the judeo-Christian beliefs.


Since I don't believe in the Christian god, I am usually just classified as an atheist.



Just do what I do- when people ask you what your religious views are or if you believe in God (or, more to the point, their God), answer their question with a question:

"I don't understand the question- what do you mean by God?"

Then when they start going on and on about what they believe, stop them and ask:

"Wait- how can you tell me about God when people can't even agree on the same thing?"

That usually shuts them up. If they persist, just wait until they're in the middle of a sentence and turn around and walk away. People HATE that shit.



You are one of the funniest, no-bull persons ever.



And YOU, my dear, are too kind. smile

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

DEC 14, 2010 11:04 AM

ollic said:
I have never seen a Christian attack an athiest.

You can try to worm your way around it but by putting up a sign that is insensitive and blantantly challenging Christianity during thier holy month... You are just being jerks.

To mock as the billboard does or to scream you are an athiest is pathetic and small minded.



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We'll call it even.

Jensen

Jensen

SUICIDEGIRL

Texas, USA

DEC 14, 2010 11:14 AM

I LOVE those "-God" billboards! I see at least ten of them when I drive home (six hours through Texas) and they make me giggle every time.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

DEC 14, 2010 11:25 AM

Not that I sympathize with the sanctimonious sentiment expressed in many of the atheist billboards. I firmly believe the embracing of a mythology (faith) is an important part of humanity. On the one hand, you have small-minded religious literalists who lose the forest for the trees... and on the other side you have the patronizing atheists who see every Catholic, Episcopalian and Seventh Day Adventist like they belong to the Westboro Baptist Church. A billboard like the "You know it's a myth" one strikes those of us who operate outside of that duality as extremely shallow and ignorant. The connotation is that somehow being a myth is a bad thing or inconsequential. There are those of us who allow religion, faith, spirituality and mythology to be a guiding principle in our lives without being taken as a literal truth. As Joseph Campbell says, "Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble."

In conclusion, all of you self-satisfied atheists can shove your smug sense of superiority up your collective asses.

Though Ollic has posted the largest amount of bullshit in this thread.

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