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  • MONDAY DECEMBER 6 2010 11:04 PM

Atheists Are Good Without God (And It’s Not A War on Christmas)

by Damon Martin

During the holiday season, atheists in America and Canada are letting everyone know they are still good without God. The message has been spread across buses and billboards throughout North America to send an alternative message during this normally oversaturated time of religious rejoice.

Groups like Secular Samaritan, American Humanist Association, and the Centre for Inquiry are responsible for the Christmas time ad buys. The gospel they’re trying to spread with these billboards is that goodness and morality are not in the exclusive domain of those that believe in a higher power.

Several secular and Atheist groups have done similar campaigns around the holidays before, with many Christians, especially in America, claiming such groups are declaring “War on Christmas.”



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One of the most prominent advertisements that set off such alarms this year was a billboard bought by the American Atheists on the New Jersey side of the Lincoln Tunnel just outside of New York City. The billboard says: “You know it’s a myth. This season celebrate reason.” The Catholic League promptly responded with a billboard of their own on the New York side of the Lincoln Tunnel stating: “You know it’s real. This season celebrate Jesus.”

The Centre for Inquiry in Canada has purchased bus ads and transit signs that state: “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” Below this headline the group lists religious figures like Jesus Christ and Allah, mythical creatures like Bigfoot, leprechauns, and the tooth fairy, and practices such as prayer, astrology and ESP. The group will also be holding in-person educational events featuring expert speakers.

Meanwhile back in the United States, the Secular Samaritans, have purchased ads on buses servicing the campus of the University of Illinois that promote a particularly powerful message. The ads feature public figures such as Bill Gates. The slogan that runs alongside an image of the Microsoft founder says: “Second richest person in the world. Donated over $26 billion to charity. Bill Gates is good without God.” However it’s been reported that some religious folks in Illinois are outraged that the bus ads are allowed to run, regardless of the overwhelmingly positive message.

However such prejudice against the secular community is not uncommon. A poll done in 2006 by the University of Minnesota revealed that over 47% of people surveyed would disapprove of a family member marrying an atheist. Nearly 40% of people interviewed listed atheists as people they would identify with the least to share a vision of American society. Others interviewed saw atheists as “amoral” or involved in criminal behavior or drugs.

Given the religious community’s poor view of non-believers, it’s especially ironic that atheists and agnostics were shown to be the most knowledgeable about religion in a recent Pew Research Center poll. The results of a test which asked Americans what they knew about religion, were somewhat staggering – especially to those who profess to know better. Out of 32 questions posed, on average 16 correct answers were given. Atheists and agnostics scored the highest, just over half of the Catholics knew why they took communion, while Bible-belt Southerners scored the lowest of any identified group.

Some would argue that the billboards and ads are somehow combative and that atheists are trying to take away the religious aspects of the season. Atheists (myself included) are just following the lead of free thinkers like Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris that say we shouldn’t be afraid to talk about our non-belief, even at this time of year. In the end, campaigns or not, atheists will continue to not believe in God, we will continue to believe in science, and, BTW, no one is declaring war. Well, unless you’re Daniel Baldwin.

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If you’re an atheist and want to find like-minded souls, you might want to join SuicideGirls’ Atheist Group (for members only).

Further reading: The Evolution of Religion, Why Women Are Bound to Religion: An Evolutionary Perspective, and Filtering the Truth: Religion – Friend or Foe?.

 

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Heigai

Heigai

Columbus, OH
May 2004

DEC 07, 2010 07:47 AM

No, we will not "continue to believe in science."

wink

3darknights

3darknights

Yelm, WA
September 2010

DEC 07, 2010 07:54 AM

Great article, thanks for posting it. Long live free-thought and reason!

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

DEC 07, 2010 08:24 AM

Of all the things the anti-religion groups need to really go after, they should just leave Christmas alone. Fight the calls for prayer in school, creationism education, etc. Society has turned Christmas from a religious celebration to a over-hyped commercial enterprise, that even non-practicing Christians are going to get their knickers in a knot over. They've got the right idea, just the wrong time to fight the battle. The religious right are going to spin this as an attack on Jesus and Christmas. If the atheists did this in the middle of July, there would probably be a lot less drama in the media. (I did say less, not none at all)

Gringo

Gringo

Spokane, WA
May 2006

DEC 07, 2010 08:45 AM

mydogfarted said:
Of all the things the anti-religion groups need to really go after, they should just leave Christmas alone.

Yeah, I see Christmas as mostly a retail/do-something-nice-for-people holiday and most of the decorations have nothing to do with religion.

There are 364 other days of the year to squabble over beliefs.

Smaptie

Smaptie

Chico, CA
March 2005

DEC 07, 2010 10:08 AM

Maybe It would work better as an attack on Santa. That Jolly Fat Man has had it to easy for two long.
Actually learning the truth about Santa is often a child's first lesson in Skepticism. My daughter faked it for a year fearing that knowing the truth, she would now get no presents.

Drama

Drama

Columbus, OH
January 2003

DEC 07, 2010 10:49 AM

Gringo said:

mydogfarted said:
Of all the things the anti-religion groups need to really go after, they should just leave Christmas alone.

Yeah, I see Christmas as mostly a retail/do-something-nice-for-people holiday and most of the decorations have nothing to do with religion.

There are 364 other days of the year to squabble over beliefs.



I agree with that in principle, but doing it at this time of year gets a lot of media attention. If it was done in the middle of July let's say, it's doubtful the media would be putting as much of a spotlight on it as they do now.

That's my honest belief as to why the Atheist organizations choose to put it out there now

Gringo

Gringo

Spokane, WA
May 2006

DEC 07, 2010 11:04 AM

Oh, I get the strategy behind choosing the season/holiday. I just don't agree with it for another reason.

I really enjoy the Christmas season because in general, people seem to be less shitty to one another - regardless of their belief systems. Families make time to spend together (whether that's good and/or bad), and random strangers seem to greet others a little more frequently than other times of the year.

In a world with such a lack of unity, I appreciate the small window Christmas gives us where everyone whether Jewish, Christian, agnostic/atheist, Muslim, or whatever can say, "Hey, hope you are enjoying this time of year" in spite of the fact that the message may be said as, "Merry Christmas," "Happy Hanukkah," "Happy Kwanzaa," or "Happy Holidays."

I'd just rather not fuck that up and overshadowing it with a belief war.

Stanhope

Stanhope

I'm lost
December 2010

DEC 07, 2010 01:53 PM


Yes, atheists are "good" sometimes, like the rest of us. But it is mysterious where the concept of good came from. I imagine the radical Muslims who cut off people's hands for stealing think they are doing good. Even though they are doing what Westerners see as wrong, they honor the idea of good and try to abide by it. C. S. Lewis starts from this puzzle in one of his books in defense of religion. Read it; see what you think. The book is either "Surprised by Joy" or "Mere Christianity."

In parts of the world where winters are cold, people almost always have a festival at Equinox. Apparently, that festival serves an important emotional need. If you abolish Christmas to get rid of Christianity, you'd be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Yeah, commercial interests have attached themselves to Christmas, but it wasn't always so; and it will not always be so.

Heigai

Heigai

Columbus, OH
May 2004

DEC 07, 2010 02:05 PM

Perhaps you could do away with the false assumption that these groups wish to "abolish Christmas." For the most part, atheist groups also do not wish to "get rid of Christianity." For the most part, they just wish that Christians wouldn't attack them for things that are irrelevant, false, or illogically applied.

Heigai

Heigai

Columbus, OH
May 2004

DEC 07, 2010 02:09 PM

...and it's really not at all mysterious where the concept of "good" comes from. Humans evolved as social animals, needing each other and needing to do things for each other. Humans that engage in such behavior in a society (not stealing, feeding orphans, etc.) are considered "good," whereas humans that engage in behavior such as stealing are considered "bad."

Your off-the-cuff (yeah, right) example of "radical Muslims" is not, for the terms of your argument, people "doing good," but rather people exacting punishment against those who have done bad. Every society punishes those who do bad deeds, and it is entirely subjective (as you are attempting to argue around) from culture to culture exactly where "good" ends and "bad" begins.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

DEC 07, 2010 02:17 PM

Gringo said:
Oh, I get the strategy behind choosing the season/holiday. I just don't agree with it for another reason.

I really enjoy the Christmas season because in general, people seem to be less shitty to one another - regardless of their belief systems. Families make time to spend together (whether that's good and/or bad), and random strangers seem to greet others a little more frequently than other times of the year.

In a world with such a lack of unity, I appreciate the small window Christmas gives us where everyone whether Jewish, Christian, agnostic/atheist, Muslim, or whatever can say, "Hey, hope you are enjoying this time of year" in spite of the fact that the message may be said as, "Merry Christmas," "Happy Hanukkah," "Happy Kwanzaa," or "Happy Holidays."

I'd just rather not fuck that up and overshadowing it with a belief war.



All of this.

Why not go after Easter? It's way more bullshit than Christmas.

BitternTwisted

BitternTwisted

I'm lost
October 2010

DEC 07, 2010 04:34 PM

FreakPirate said:

Gringo said:
Oh, I get the strategy behind choosing the season/holiday. I just don't agree with it for another reason.

I really enjoy the Christmas season because in general, people seem to be less shitty to one another - regardless of their belief systems. Families make time to spend together (whether that's good and/or bad), and random strangers seem to greet others a little more frequently than other times of the year.

In a world with such a lack of unity, I appreciate the small window Christmas gives us where everyone whether Jewish, Christian, agnostic/atheist, Muslim, or whatever can say, "Hey, hope you are enjoying this time of year" in spite of the fact that the message may be said as, "Merry Christmas," "Happy Hanukkah," "Happy Kwanzaa," or "Happy Holidays."

I'd just rather not fuck that up and overshadowing it with a belief war.



All of this.

Why not go after Easter? It's way more bullshit than Christmas.



Does anyone really care about Easter, apart from the seriously Christian? In the UK it's pretty much just a double-size long weekend.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

DEC 07, 2010 05:09 PM

I love Easter. Halloween's candy is pretty good, but I can't get enough of those Cadbury eggs.

Personally, I can't stand Christmas anymore. The older I get the more of a facade it seems to be. I wouldn't abolish it, or anything, but I do everything I can to get away from it.

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

DEC 07, 2010 05:36 PM

It's one thing to discuss one's atheism forthrightly when people ask you about it, make incorrect assumptions about it, or otherwise bring the discussion around to matters of faith or lack thereof. It's another matter to go around proselytizing, and I for one think it's uncalled for. The single most irritating thing a person of faith can do, in my book, is try to sell me on their faith unprompted, -especially- absent context, such as approaching me randomly at a bus stop and trying to give me pamphlets. I don't believe that atheists should stoop to such tactics, and I'd rate bus ads and billboards among them.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

DEC 07, 2010 10:52 PM

FreakPirate said:

Gringo said:
Oh, I get the strategy behind choosing the season/holiday. I just don't agree with it for another reason.

I really enjoy the Christmas season because in general, people seem to be less shitty to one another - regardless of their belief systems. Families make time to spend together (whether that's good and/or bad), and random strangers seem to greet others a little more frequently than other times of the year.

In a world with such a lack of unity, I appreciate the small window Christmas gives us where everyone whether Jewish, Christian, agnostic/atheist, Muslim, or whatever can say, "Hey, hope you are enjoying this time of year" in spite of the fact that the message may be said as, "Merry Christmas," "Happy Hanukkah," "Happy Kwanzaa," or "Happy Holidays."

I'd just rather not fuck that up and overshadowing it with a belief war.



All of this.

Why not go after Easter? It's way more bullshit than Christmas.



Babies are easier to attack than Zombies.

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