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  • SATURDAY JUNE 13 2009 6:00 AM

Dan Brodribb's Geek Love: The Trite Stuff

The most horrifying moment for me in my life as a dating expert was the moment I realized that most of the advice I had spent years dismissing as trite clichés was 100% true.


    * "Be yourself." Check.

    * "Don't over-think things." Check.

    * "Don't have sex on the first date." Okay, that one I don't buy into yet. But I'm at the point where I could be convinced, which is something, I guess.



Still, it's embarrassing. I put a lot of hours in, after all: reading books, wondering if I'll ever get laid, going on dates, getting laid, talking to strangers about their boy and/or girlfriend problems, wondering if I'll ever get laid again, lying awake in bed next to the Wrong Girl thinking "How did this happen AGAIN?"

With all that experience, I feel I should have something more insightful to say than "Be honest" or "Know what you want."

That's the trouble with the truth. Even if it's a cliché, it stays true, whether we want to hear it or not.

You wouldn't know it from reading this column, but I'm not a big fan of giving unsolicited advice (*). Unless someone really wants my opinion, I dodge casual requests for guidance like Spider-Man evading pumpkin bombs. I'll use every conversational tool at my disposal to avoid answering from "What do YOU think you should do?" to "Boy, I could sure use a bite to eat right now" to "Sorry, I wasn't listening. I was busy picturing you naked (**)."

The truth is, even when they ask for it, most people don't want to hear advice. Ninety percent of the time, they know perfectly well what they need to do. They don't want guidance; they want support and reassurance. They want to hear that they're an okay person and that the bad things that keep happening aren't their fault. Sometimes they don't want to hear anything. Sometimes, they just want someone to listen. (Another cliché. God damn it!)

Most days, I try and do just that. But every once in a while, I am consumed by the urge to impress someone and I can't resist sticking my oar in the water.

"You can't love someone else until you can love yourself," I'll say cheerfully. "Dating is a numbers game. Put yourself out there."

I'm kind of an asshole sometimes.

The weird thing is, often one of those clichés will be the exact right advice for that person. And boy do they ever hate it.

"Put yourself out there!" They'll sputter. "That's your dating advice? That's trite!"

It's IS trite. It's been said a million times or more since the dawn of time. Yet people don't do it. Then they wonder why they're not getting what they want. And when a likable, talented, sexually irresistible dating writer tells them why they aren't getting what they want, they get mad at the advice (***).

We've all done it. Why? Because we don't just want advice. We want SPECIAL advice.

We want to believe our problems are more dramatic or different or more insurmountable that other people's problems. We don't want the 'be yourself' breadcrumbs that feed the plebes. We want unique advice as befits our station. Better yet, we want advice that will let us keep doing what we're doing and somehow give us different results. And if it blames some nebulous group (women, men, media steretypes and/or the Delaware Union of Shoemakers & Chimney Sweeps are my personal faves) instead of holding us personally accountable, that would also be a bonus.

The trouble is, the simple stuff is what works. As advice goes, "eat properly and exercise" sounds banal, but it's the only healthy way to get in shape. Similarly, if you want successful relationships, you're going to have to do the things people in successful relationships do.

There are no short-cuts. No argument will change the truth. You can't run from the devil in your own back pocket.

Here's another true thing, I've learned: Advice does you no good unless you test it for yourself. Reading it won't help. Thinking about it won't help. Debating it on the internet won't help. You have to try things and see if they work for you.

That's why I'm grateful for the time I put into dating, even if in some ways, it led me right back to where I started in the first place. There really is no substitute for experience.

That's a cliché I can get behind.


(*) I'm also not so good at TAKING unsolicited advice, so I guess it evens out.

(**) Not for use on close family members.

(***) Sometimes they get mad at the writer. But he IS kind of an asshole.



Dan Brodribb is a professional stand-up comic and writer. He is currently working on a book called Dating for Shy Guys. Learn more about him at: danbrodribb.blogspot.com.


 
Comments
Flores

Flores

Santa Fe, NM
September 2005

JUN 13, 2009 03:18 PM

You know..
I do all three of those things with every person I date...
and yet here I am..single.
I guess they're more guidelines than anything...
It doesn't exactly guarantee anything.

burtlo

burtlo

Denver, CO
May 2004

JUN 13, 2009 06:04 PM

I definitely agree with you that people don't want to hear a cliché as an answer. But the trick with giving advice is that you've got to communicate with your intended audience in such a way that it motivates them to believe they can give it a another try or possibly represent the material in a way that they understand a new course of action.

Extolling clichés as advice to me sounds like tutoring math students on solving word problems by saying: To solve it, you've got to use math. I think this is a poor metaphor. I think it would fold on first response or inspection.

But what I mean to convey is the person asking these questions and groaning in response sometimes is not always too lazy to confront themselves or put the work in. Sometimes their intepretation of that cliché into action has failed to execute.

An example... A person can suggest that you remain calm or act natural when attempting to talk with someone. This cliché, as most clichés, is an ends with no instruction. How do you reach natural or be yourself? There is no strong metaphor or mental model for you to take away from the cliché to help put a person at ease. Actually, I believe it is bad instruction because it often leads someone to fixate on how they do not feel natural.

I suggest: When approaching a stranger, treat the person as though they were family member or a friend that you have not seen in a great number of years.

Mileage may vary for those of you that have no friends or attend your family gatherings in full Battle-Dress Uniform (Flask = Canteen). But I feel that in most cases the model serves a good majority, because conversations with old friends or long-time family often imply that sense of comfort and excitement your hoping to convey. It also becomes less about "you" and what "you" should be feeling or acting and more about who you are talking with and picturing them.

Brad_Warner

Brad_Warner

NEWSWIRE

Akron, OH

JUN 13, 2009 06:24 PM

Yeah. In Zen too. Everybody gets mad that it's all cliches. But what can you do? The cliches are mostly true!

triplegold

triplegold

Burbank, CA
August 2005

JUN 13, 2009 07:40 PM

Kudos! biggrin

hellboy7

hellboy7

Austin, TX
July 2004

JUN 13, 2009 08:22 PM


I suggest: When approaching a stranger, treat the person as though they were family member or a friend that you have not seen in a great number of years.



Part of the problem with this suggestion requires you to care more than some people are capable. And personally, I don't care how most people feel unless I already have an emotional connection. If that is your approach, I applaud you for having a bigger heart than me.

Life is full of lessons and it is up to the individual to learn those lessons, be they cliches or or not. Kinda like a box of chocolates....... puke

All of these cliches are life long memes passed down from generation to generation. But, isn't that the purpose of cliches? You don't really understand them until you explore them and find the truth in life and yourself?

Good article.

Happily single and not looking. Watch, now I'll fall for someone or vice versa. LOL. tongue

Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

JUN 13, 2009 08:25 PM

Be your best self.

This is correct.

Chupa86

Chupa86

Minneapolis, MN
April 2003

JUN 14, 2009 08:32 AM

another great article! loved it and it is true. my ex and i broke up about 6 months ago and since then Ive been aggressively dating and it has gotten slightly better and better. dating is a numbers game and the best thing to do is be yourself. But for it to work both parties have to be themselves...

Wendy

Wendy

SUICIDEGIRL

Israel

JUN 15, 2009 04:06 AM

my advice is always to stop looking. i don't have many girlfriends who have met their "soul mates" on aggressive manhunts. i always get the "that's so cliche" retort when i give the advice to stop looking.

.... and then it works. smile

LBJeffries

LBJeffries

Charleston, SC
June 2009

JUN 16, 2009 01:35 PM

Gah, Number 3 is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If she wants to have sex on the first date, the odds are pretty high she isn't planning on calling back either way. You can either let it slide or keep your dignity, but I've yet to have much luck sustaining the relationship if breaking number 3 came up.

I like to believe that when two compatible people like each other and there's nothing stopping them, things just find a way. Struggling to get a person to return an e-mail, posting dippy facebook jokes, and constantly trying to entice only goes for so long.