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Dan Brodribb's Geek Love: The Riddle of the Whoredian Knot

I don't like to admit this, but I have moments of jealousy towards women. To a short, shy, less-than-handsome guy like myself (*), it feels like I have to work my ass off to be attractive to the opposite sex. Women just have to show up and be pretty.

There are two reasons I hate those moments. Reason one is it's embarrassing. I'm a "dating expert" by gum! I should be beyond such petty insecurities. Reason two is the ladies don't have it as easy as it sometimes appears.

Women have hosts of challenges that we guys can never hope to understand. Securing their feet into the multiple straps and buckles of shoes that could double as BDSM devices for pixies. Being hit on by guys, which isn't always as pleasant an experience as one would hope. (When it happened to me, I can't say I liked it much.) But one of the most interesting girls-only challenges is the Whoredian Knot, or as it's more popularly known, the Madonna/Whore Complex.

What makes the Riddle of the Whoredian Knot so interesting is it's a mess that guys created, but women are expected to clean up (Also see: The Laundry Hamper Problem, the Dirty Dishes Problem, the If-You-Won't-Swallow-I'll-Come-In-Your-Hair-Problem...).

Now I'm not saying women don't judge other women. On the contrary, they police each other with Gestapo-like efficiency. From political fundraisers to strip clubs, women have an Acceptable Sluttiness Index for any social situation and woe betide the female who drifts too far from the baseline.

This is not what I'm talking about. Women deal with these problems in-house. The Slut Police are a feminist issue

What I'm talking about is guys splitting women into categories based on the way they dress, their real or imagined sexual history, or the decisions they make for fun and/or profit.

I hear it all the time. Most guys aren't even aware they're doing it. But here are some actual quotes from actual guys for you to consider:

She seems like such a sweet girl but she's going out with all the guys.



So? When did sweetness and sexual freedom become mutually exclusive?

You know, I would expect to hear those kind of stories about XXX. But I had no idea YYY was like that.



Ah, the dreaded 'like that.' Two words that say it all without saying anything.

This rarely happens to guys. A man can sleep around, enjoy a monogamous relationship or even remain celibate (voluntarily or otherwise) and no one will use that information to infer anything significant about his character.

Gentlemen, it is time to undo the Whoredian Knot...and I'll tell you why.

When you split the women in your life into Madonnas and Whores like sandlot baseball teams, you are causing them needless difficulties. You are also causing unnecessary problems for yourself.

We'll start with Team Slut since they're the easiest (no pun intended). Making a woman feel cheap or used or badly about herself is a lousy thing to do. It's even worse if she's in a position where she doesn't have much choice but to take it. No, the waitress can't pay her rent with your slap on her ass.

But you aren't doing the Madonnas any favors either. When you treat a woman as being more virtuous or more pure than other people, you are putting pressure on her to be someone she isn't. Guess what? She can't do it. Guess what else? She is going to resent you for putting her in that position.

Sexually speaking, you are going to be the one who pays. Those women you treat like sluts? They might be having sex with multiple guys, but I guarantee none of them will be you. Meanwhile, the Madonnas are so busy trying to live up to your saintly image of them, that they are reluctant to bring up their fantasy about dressing up like a schoolgirl and giving you a lap dance or sharing you with a Swedish supermodel.

Any time you let judgment get between you and another human being, you are hurting both them and yourself. Instead of talking to the other person, you are talking to the label you put on them, and as a result you are going to miss a lot of cool things.

There are no Madonnas. There are no sluts. There are only women. Learn to appreciate them. Many of them, after all, have both little Madonnas and little sluts living inside them and they are more than happy to show both those sides to the right guy.

Make the right guy you. You'll be glad you did. And so will she.


(*) Don't feel too badly for me. I'm also funny, a peerless conversationalist, and a fabulous kisser. The Dating Gods giveth and the Dating Gods taketh away.



Dan Brodribb is a professional stand-up comic and writer. He is currently working on a book called Dating for Shy Guys. Learn more about him at: danbrodribb.blogspot.com.

 
Comments
Devilyn

Devilyn

SUICIDEGIRL

Texas, USA

MAR 28, 2009 01:37 PM

Well said. I think you have an awesome perspective on it that hopefully guys will read and actually remember it next time they fall prey to their usual way of categorizing women like that.

cabaretic

cabaretic

Birmingham, AL
March 2005

MAR 28, 2009 04:11 PM

We place people in hierarchical categories just by the fact that we are animals. I think much of this judging has a kind of primordial basis in which we are seeking to find suitable mates and focusing our energy on people who would theoretically produce strong and healthy offspring. We sell into a perversion of this concept when we sell into a black and white, all or nothing conception of whether a woman is purely a temptress or purely a virgin. My fear in reading this post is that the guys who DON'T do this will fail to understand it altogether or at best ignore it and the ones who DO will nod their head up and down sagely.

But aside from that, the other side of the coin is that women do the same thing with men. Perhaps not to the same objectifying degree, but certainly some version of it. Prejudice, literally broken down into its root means "pre-judge". We pre-judge other people based on the slimmest of evidence, much of which if we got to know someone would prove to be completely false, or at best, totally exaggerated.

That's what needs to change. And in thinking otherwise, we all lose.

Cassiel

Cassiel

Aurora, CO
September 2004

MAR 28, 2009 05:30 PM

Tell this to David Lynch. wink

tuba_man

tuba_man

Twentynine Palms, CA
March 2005

MAR 29, 2009 09:10 PM

Devilyn said:
Well said. I think you have an awesome perspective on it that hopefully guys will read and actually remember it next time they fall prey to their usual way of categorizing women like that.



Another thing guys have a tendency to do is fail to seperate the bedroom and the rest of the relationship. They seem to think you can learn someone's sexual habits from their public persona, or that their sexual preferences apply directly to their social lives. Most guys seem to think nympho=slut=worthless, or plain jane=prude, and that those prefences apply to the rest of her life. A girl who likes it rough in the bedroom probably does not want to be treated like dog meat, and a girl who wants a knight in shining armor might not want to be a delicate flower in bed. My girlfriend likes it rough, but if i treated her like that during the day, I'd be single in 5 minutes.

I guess what I'm saying is sexual personality is seperate from normal personality, though you discover both the same way: communication. Talk, fuck, love, give, just make sure you respect the person you're sharing a bed with.

To give this a tenuous connection to the topic: people are complex. assumptions and labels are useful ways to find someone new, but if you hold onto them for more than 5 minutes after you meet someone, they're only going to fuck things up.

PS to the geek girls: same goes for guys. I'm a mild-mannered IT nerd by day, but at night, if I'm not at least sore afterwards, it's a boring night.

dan_brodribb

dan_brodribb

Edmonton, AB
February 2009

APR 14, 2009 10:54 AM

Some great points.

Thanks for the comments, everybody.

Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

APR 14, 2009 11:48 AM

I feel like a page of Teenbeat fell out, turned to pablum in a shy guy's basement, and now he's trying to nourish me with it except it never even grotesquely splatters on my face because the hand holding it is constantly meandering.

dholokov

dholokov

Toronto, ON
April 2003

APR 18, 2009 10:16 PM

Does these ideas seriously exist for anyone under the age of, like, 50 anymore? I hear the media tell me people think this way far more often then I hear people thinking this way...