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MONDAY FEBRUARY 25 2008 3:00 PM

Back Your Candidate, and Have Your Candidate's Back

Tags: Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, fight!

"You stupid son of a bitch, you keep running your fucking mouth, I'm gonna have to shut it for you... and your candidate's selling an unrealistic fantasy to a naive public, a public in which, in all likelihood, the majority will never receive health care!"

"Yeah, you're gonna need health care when I get done kicking your fucking ass all over the street... besides, your candidate is trading on a reputation she never earned, refuses to concede defeat in numerous primary states and is pinning her hopes on the super delegates castrating the will of the people... You pussy."

"You think Hillary hits low? I'll show you low, you piece of shit!"

Fantasy? It's totally not!

Meet Jose Antonio Ortiz. The Pennsylvania man allegedly stabbed his brother-in-law in the stomach after the pair quarreled about their respective support of Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. According to cops, Ortiz, 27, stabbed Sean Shurelds last Thursday night in the kitchen of the Upper Providence home they share.

"Am I okay? Yes, I'm okay! That punk hits like a *%#@!... and his refusal to hold Obama accountable for his ties to Rezko is downright troubling!"

"You tell him I'll stop kicking him in the face when Hillary decides to release her income tax records to the public and acknowledges she can't have it both ways on NAFTA!"

According to the below account, my exaggeration isn't that far off.

According to a criminal complaint, a copy of which you'll find here, Shurelds, an Obama supporter, told Ortiz that Illinois senator was "trashing" Clinton (apparently in regard to recent primary and caucus results). Ortiz, a Clinton supporter, replied that "Obama was not a realist." While not exactly fighting words, the verbal political tiff led to some mutual choking and punching. And. Allegedly, a stabbing in the abdomen. Ortiz, pictured in the mug shot below, was charged with a felony aggravated assault count and two misdemeanors.

Am I off the mark in picturing Shurelds taunting his brother while wearing a giant foam "Obama #1" finger?

What exactly happened here? Is this a case of two dumb guys, discussing politics when they shouldn't be? Or two smart guys, fist-fighting when they shouldn't be?

I for one am looking forward to the geriatric McCain-supporting upstairs neighbor getting involved and turning this one into a triple-threat match.

TheCoolerKing thinks that maybe it's better if these two don't vote... or breed... or even mingle with the rest of the population, actually.

Comments

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH

February 2007

FEB 25, 2008 08:41 PM

full contact politics!!

seanvegas

Lincoln, NE

December 2004

FEB 25, 2008 08:45 PM

Try drinking decaff.

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

FEB 25, 2008 11:51 PM

I refuse to believe this sweet angel did anything wrong.

Quirky

Birmingham, AL

October 2005

FEB 26, 2008 02:09 AM

FearTheReaper said:

I refuse to believe this sweet angel did anything wrong.

One of your's?

AngelDevoid

USA

January 2008

FEB 26, 2008 09:11 AM

Candidates do everything they can to pull at our tribal and pack instincts. They want us on their team. A sticky voter is one they no longer have to spend money on. Those wishy washy undecideds get all the press. I had a rather loud anti-hillary guy sit next to me at the Carolina game. He was so loud I think he was part deaf. My dad supports Hillary and I thought if he mentioned something he might get hit. Luckily I was sitting between the two and my dad abstained from the conversation.

But in my view, Hillary and Obama are both on the same team. The democrats. I am an Obama supporter but I would vote for Hillary. When we link ourselves to a candidate strongly, emotionally... I think it gives some people a sense of power. They feel that they have knowledge others don't or a commitment others won't show.

In my experience, at work and in the area I live, a certain group of Republican voters follow this pattern and for all the elections going back to 1988 (the first one I was really aware of), they get jittery and think the world will end if a Democrat is elected. They get pessimistic, they get angry, they get emotional. This was at the start of the conservative talk radio uptick. It has only gotten worse since then. The hosts have tapped into that natural feeling quite well.

But I learned something else in all that time. The more gloom and doom your candidate, since you are emotionally attached to them, the more gloom and doom and angry you are. I am not making a pitch for Obama on that account at all by the way. Functioning as President is the qualification needed. I am just making a small observation. Republicans have traditionally been more gloom and doom (on talk radio), so they have suffered from this more.

The whole Ron Paul mess is based on weird conspiracy theories about a non-existent highway among other things.