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  • THURSDAY NOVEMBER 29 2007 4:00 PM

Nice Try. No Cigar.

Submitted by Bitch_PhD

Edited by Bitch_PhD

Tags: breasts, feminism, men's magazines



Dig this email I just got.

My name is A. and I am contacting you from DETAILS Magazine in New York to tell you about an article in our latest issue which may be of interest to you and your readers at Bitch Ph.D.. We think that uber-boobs are unattractive and have gotten out of control, so we wrote about it in our latest issue.



HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!

Details thinks "uber-boobs" are unattractive! I bet all the girls are just falling on their knees thanking god that we've got permission from Details magazine not to get breast implants.

Isn't that white of them? No lady wants to have "out of control" boobs!

I just feel so much better about my feminism now that I know that Details doesn't approve of breast implants. Whew.

The article, if you're bored shitless and don't have anything else to read, is here. I have no idea if it's hilarious, inane, or wrath-inducing, because I can't be bothered to read some wanking article from Details about breasts. But hey, if you're so inclined, there's the click.

(P.S. to A. from DETAILS Magazine: actually, we bitches don't care what you think of our bodies. Sorry about that. Go buy yourself something nice and feel better, honey.)

Bitch_PhD thinks that men who expect her to care what they find attractive are unattractive and have gotten out of control.

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JuliusChurch

JuliusChurch

Ashland, PA
November 2005

NOV 29, 2007 05:14 PM

I used to have a 3rd nipple on my forehead but it was removed due to pressure from the government because it gave me tremendous pscyhokinetic power.

Bitch_PhD

Bitch_PhD

I'm lost
February 2007

NOV 29, 2007 05:17 PM

Shalome said:
Did you write them back and enlighten them in a polite, informative manner as to why you and your readers wouldn't be interested in their article, thus explaining an aspect of feminisim to an audience that is obviously only marginally familiar with the topic, or did you just laugh at them?

I'm guessing they thought you'd be interested in it because the article attempts, in a rudimentary way that is accessible to the kind of people who read a magazine like Details, to discuss the pressure women feel to look attractive to men, the societal pressure to have big pin-up tits in order to be considered attractive, and things like women "obediently conforming to some caricature of beauty fantasized by traveling-salesman types."

The man who wrote the article refers to himself as a feminist. Since he's so obviously miguided in your opinion, perhaps some education from a proper bitch could straighten him out!


For the record, it's a fairly inane, innocuous article.



I posted about it and assume that if they want people to be doing that, they'll check people's blogs.

It's actually not my job to educate *everyone* who says something stupid, especially not politely. The guy does press releases: it's *his* job to make me want to read and blog the article, rather than to make me think it sounds like it's misogynistic crap.

Bitch_PhD

Bitch_PhD

I'm lost
February 2007

NOV 29, 2007 05:20 PM

legionnaire said:
So you care so little about what the people at Details think that you did exactly what they asked, and linked to the article in your blog? How revolutionary of you.



I'm also not under any obligation to be "revolutionary". So sorry to disappoint you, though.

d20

d20

San Francisco, CA
September 2003

NOV 29, 2007 05:24 PM

Bitch_PhD said:

legionnaire said:
So you care so little about what the people at Details think that you did exactly what they asked, and linked to the article in your blog? How revolutionary of you.



I'm also not under any obligation to be "revolutionary". So sorry to disappoint you, though.



so your name is just a verb then?

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

NOV 29, 2007 05:28 PM

I'm calling bullshit. How can you even seriously write an article about something you didn't even bother to read? Then you go on to top that off with an incredibly arrogant and extremely sexist attitude. According to your "logic", a man who writes articles for a magazine that you don't care for and claims to be a feminist, automatically is not. Way to promote stereotypes. I have some pretty strong opinions myself. I also posses a quality called "tact". You should try it some day, people might take you more seriously. You seem to have the attitude that if someone has a penis, they shouldn't even bother calling themselves a "feminist" because they could never live up to your standards of "feminism". I'm not saying that you should "know your place and behave like a good girl" or any other ridiculous bullshit like that, so don't even try to pin that kind of Neanderthal thinking on me. There's a difference between having strong opinions and fighting for what you believe in, and just being a self-righteous jerk.

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

NOV 29, 2007 05:30 PM

Bitch_PhD said:

Shalome said:
Did you write them back and enlighten them in a polite, informative manner as to why you and your readers wouldn't be interested in their article, thus explaining an aspect of feminisim to an audience that is obviously only marginally familiar with the topic, or did you just laugh at them?

I'm guessing they thought you'd be interested in it because the article attempts, in a rudimentary way that is accessible to the kind of people who read a magazine like Details, to discuss the pressure women feel to look attractive to men, the societal pressure to have big pin-up tits in order to be considered attractive, and things like women "obediently conforming to some caricature of beauty fantasized by traveling-salesman types."

The man who wrote the article refers to himself as a feminist. Since he's so obviously miguided in your opinion, perhaps some education from a proper bitch could straighten him out!


For the record, it's a fairly inane, innocuous article.



I posted about it and assume that if they want people to be doing that, they'll check people's blogs.

It's actually not my job to educate *everyone* who says something stupid, especially not politely. The guy does press releases: it's *his* job to make me want to read and blog the article, rather than to make me think it sounds like it's misogynistic crap.



No, it's not your job. Just thought it would be appropriate, especially since last time I checked quite a few people who used the title "PhD" were pretty interested in sharing knowledge and educating people (but don't get me wrong, I've had coffee with a number of professors who delighted in telling stories and laughing about people dumber than them).

Cool, good to know you're not actually interested in educating those who misunderstand feminist concepts about feminism, you're more into harranguing the already-converted and laughing at those who aren't as familiar with feminist constructs as you are. Your articles make a hell of a lot more sense in that context. smile

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

NOV 29, 2007 05:31 PM

Nothin' quite like filling that article quota eh?

emperorreagan

emperorreagan

Baltimore, MD
January 2004

NOV 29, 2007 05:38 PM

I was hoping this was an article about an aborted attempt to use a cigar as a sexual aid.

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

NOV 29, 2007 05:43 PM

legionnaire said:
So you care so little about what the people at Details think that you did exactly what they asked, and linked to the article in your blog? How revolutionary of you.


thank you, sir. like yazoo once said, dont go.

a lot of people read details and a lot of self-proclaimed feminists complain about the messages contained in magazines such as details but now all of the sudden "we bitches don't care what you think of our bodies"? ooh. how bitchy! if any of that were true we would have one less thread to kvetch about, yes?

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

NOV 29, 2007 05:47 PM

Shalome said:

Bitch_PhD said:

Shalome said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
Did you write them back and enlighten them in a polite, informative manner as to why you and your readers wouldn't be interested in their article, thus explaining an aspect of feminisim to an audience that is obviously only marginally familiar with the topic, or did you just laugh at them?

I'm guessing they thought you'd be interested in it because the article attempts, in a rudimentary way that is accessible to the kind of people who read a magazine like Details, to discuss the pressure women feel to look attractive to men, the societal pressure to have big pin-up tits in order to be considered attractive, and things like women "obediently conforming to some caricature of beauty fantasized by traveling-salesman types."

The man who wrote the article refers to himself as a feminist. Since he's so obviously miguided in your opinion, perhaps some education from a proper bitch could straighten him out!


For the record, it's a fairly inane, innocuous article.



I posted about it and assume that if they want people to be doing that, they'll check people's blogs.

It's actually not my job to educate *everyone* who says something stupid, especially not politely. The guy does press releases: it's *his* job to make me want to read and blog the article, rather than to make me think it sounds like it's misogynistic crap.



No, it's not your job. Just thought it would be appropriate, especially since last time I checked quite a few people who used the title "PhD" were pretty interested in sharing knowledge and educating people (but don't get me wrong, I've had coffee with a number of professors who delighted in telling stories and laughing about people dumber than them).

Cool, good to know you're not actually interested in educating those who misunderstand feminist concepts about feminism, you're more into harranguing the already-converted and laughing at those who aren't as familiar with feminist constructs as you are. Your articles make a hell of a lot more sense in that context. smile


How is this news?

Priest_

Priest_

USA
January 2007

NOV 29, 2007 05:56 PM

Shalome said:

Bitch_PhD said:

Shalome said:
Did you write them back and enlighten them in a polite, informative manner as to why you and your readers wouldn't be interested in their article, thus explaining an aspect of feminisim to an audience that is obviously only marginally familiar with the topic, or did you just laugh at them?

I'm guessing they thought you'd be interested in it because the article attempts, in a rudimentary way that is accessible to the kind of people who read a magazine like Details, to discuss the pressure women feel to look attractive to men, the societal pressure to have big pin-up tits in order to be considered attractive, and things like women "obediently conforming to some caricature of beauty fantasized by traveling-salesman types."

The man who wrote the article refers to himself as a feminist. Since he's so obviously miguided in your opinion, perhaps some education from a proper bitch could straighten him out!


For the record, it's a fairly inane, innocuous article.



I posted about it and assume that if they want people to be doing that, they'll check people's blogs.

It's actually not my job to educate *everyone* who says something stupid, especially not politely. The guy does press releases: it's *his* job to make me want to read and blog the article, rather than to make me think it sounds like it's misogynistic crap.



No, it's not your job. Just thought it would be appropriate, especially since last time I checked quite a few people who used the title "PhD" were pretty interested in sharing knowledge and educating people (but don't get me wrong, I've had coffee with a number of professors who delighted in telling stories and laughing about people dumber than them).

Cool, good to know you're not actually interested in educating those who misunderstand feminist concepts about feminism, you're more into harranguing the already-converted and laughing at those who aren't as familiar with feminist constructs as you are. Your articles make a hell of a lot more sense in that context. smile



Woah. Burn. Like... woah. biggrin

Bitch_PhD

Bitch_PhD

I'm lost
February 2007

NOV 29, 2007 05:58 PM

varukasalt said:
I'm calling bullshit. How can you even seriously write an article about something you didn't even bother to read? Then you go on to top that off with an incredibly arrogant and extremely sexist attitude. According to your "logic", a man who writes articles for a magazine that you don't care for and claims to be a feminist, automatically is not. Way to promote stereotypes. I have some pretty strong opinions myself. I also posses a quality called "tact". You should try it some day, people might take you more seriously. You seem to have the attitude that if someone has a penis, they shouldn't even bother calling themselves a "feminist" because they could never live up to your standards of "feminism". I'm not saying that you should "know your place and behave like a good girl" or any other ridiculous bullshit like that, so don't even try to pin that kind of Neanderthal thinking on me. There's a difference between having strong opinions and fighting for what you believe in, and just being a self-righteous jerk.



I read the email and wrote an article about *that*.

Everything else you're saying here is silly.

squerk

squerk

Seattle, WA
December 2004

NOV 29, 2007 05:59 PM

ckdexterhaven said:

Shalome said:

Bitch_PhD said:

Shalome said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
Did you write them back and enlighten them in a polite, informative manner as to why you and your readers wouldn't be interested in their article, thus explaining an aspect of feminisim to an audience that is obviously only marginally familiar with the topic, or did you just laugh at them?

I'm guessing they thought you'd be interested in it because the article attempts, in a rudimentary way that is accessible to the kind of people who read a magazine like Details, to discuss the pressure women feel to look attractive to men, the societal pressure to have big pin-up tits in order to be considered attractive, and things like women "obediently conforming to some caricature of beauty fantasized by traveling-salesman types."

The man who wrote the article refers to himself as a feminist. Since he's so obviously miguided in your opinion, perhaps some education from a proper bitch could straighten him out!


For the record, it's a fairly inane, innocuous article.



I posted about it and assume that if they want people to be doing that, they'll check people's blogs.

It's actually not my job to educate *everyone* who says something stupid, especially not politely. The guy does press releases: it's *his* job to make me want to read and blog the article, rather than to make me think it sounds like it's misogynistic crap.



No, it's not your job. Just thought it would be appropriate, especially since last time I checked quite a few people who used the title "PhD" were pretty interested in sharing knowledge and educating people (but don't get me wrong, I've had coffee with a number of professors who delighted in telling stories and laughing about people dumber than them).

Cool, good to know you're not actually interested in educating those who misunderstand feminist concepts about feminism, you're more into harranguing the already-converted and laughing at those who aren't as familiar with feminist constructs as you are. Your articles make a hell of a lot more sense in that context. smile


How is this news?



Editorial wink

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

NOV 29, 2007 06:03 PM

OneBadDude said:
I used to have a 3rd nipple on my forehead but it was removed due to pressure from the government because it gave me tremendous pscyhokinetic power.



So it was you I saw in the SuPerSeKrit Gov't lab last summer. I was there for my pyrotechnic ingrown toenail removal. They had good cookies.

Bitch_PhD

Bitch_PhD

I'm lost
February 2007

NOV 29, 2007 06:08 PM

That said, apparently my goal with this piece--which was to snark about the way that people try to market shit as "feminist" and the sexism of thinking that criticizing women or women's bodies ("uber-boobs"???) will endear you to feminists, and maybe, you know, just to be funny--fell flat with this particular audience. You try and provoke an interesting discussion, sometimes it doesn't work. Ah well.

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