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Giving up Starbucks

SUNDAY NOVEMBER 25 2007 12:00 PM

Submitted by SleepyLady. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Starbucks, Fair Trade, coffee



How the hell is an independent coffee shop supposed to survive with twelve Starbucks located in the surrounding areas, the closest one only a half mile away?

If you're Rhonda and Jon Mallek, owners of the Fine Grind in Little Falls, NJ you'll put up this billboard.



As reported in the The New York Times, The Fine Grind has the usual coffee shop offerings; Internet access, fancy coffee and seasonal drinks. The Fine Grind had a loyal following as well.

And then Starbucks came to town.

…. Mrs. Mallek was a bit taken aback when she saw two of the regulars — the regulars! — near her shop, Starbucks cups in hand, not long after the new one opened last summer. And so came the idea of the billboard, about a half block from the Starbucks — as close as they could get — reading: “We may not be Big ... but we’re not Bitter!” And “We ARE your neighborhood coffee spot!”



Now it's totally possible that if the Mallek's customers are anything like me, they'll patronize both Starbucks and (places like) The Fine Grind. So, the Mallek's shouldn’t worry, right? Then again it's probably people like me who won't choose a side who are responsible for local businesses closing down.

There are about three local coffee shops in my neighborhood. All three coffee shops are within walking distance from my apartment. I try not to drive unless work related. The problem is that the independently owned coffee shops in my area don’t open early enough. Starbucks opens at 6 a.m. Starbucks' more elaborate drinks are pricey but a small coffee is $1.65 compared to the $3 that one independently owned coffee shop charges.

(For the sake of not putting everyone to sleep I'm omitting any details about how I also make coffee at my apartment to save money.)

This NY Times article mentioned websites such as I Hate Starbucks.com and We Hate Starbucks.com. I checked out both sites. I Hate Starbucks.com is in dire need of a web designer. I'm not a fan of white text on a black background. I could only spend ten seconds there.

There are some interesting yet impractical ideas on We Hate Starbucks (the web address is not actually wehatestarbucks.com.)

Have you heard of the game Starbucks Musical Chairs? It seems like a bit of a pain in the ass and I'm not sure how it sticks anything to "the man."

The rules involve buying a coffee at a mom-and-pop shop and disguising your cup with a Starbucks sticker. Players then keep inconspicuously switching seats in order to gain points and the first person to hit 100 points stands up and screams, "Help me! I've been Starbucked!" And then all of the players with their disguised drinks get up and leave.

The only reasonable tactic on We Hate Starbucks is the simple download of a letter titled, "Dear Coffee Drinker." The idea is to deliver it to folks sitting in a Starbucks or slap it up on the window in front of customers.

Here is one example of a few of the anti-Starbucks arguments made in the short letter:

1- Starbucks farming techniques are unsustainable and damaging to the environment, the crops wipe out bio-diversity and the countries that they buy their coffee from (Guatemala, Indonesia etc) don't enforce any strong environmental regulations. So even if Starbucks released statements about their commitment to the ecology and dislike for chemicals, they are not carried out. This is not likely to improve with the WTO in its current state of slashing all hindrance to big business.



(The website does note that in the last two years Starbucks has started to offer some official Fair Trade coffee.)

I'll admit I'm seduced by the sameness of every Starbucks. I know how my drinks will taste. I've grown to like my name on a cup. If I get lost and I see a Starbucks, I immediately feel safe. And for some reason I've bought into the fact that the baristas are happy and protected with their health insurance from working only part-time! But I think it's time for me to make a stand. No more Starbucks. From now on I'll support local business exclusively and write my own damn name on my cup.



 

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SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

NOV 25, 2007 02:03 PM

I like 7-11 coffee.

dholokov

dholokov

Toronto, ON
April 2003

NOV 25, 2007 02:04 PM

Moonrabbit said:
I'd complain aboot Tim Hortons being just as obnoxious, but they have so much on starbucks it's not funny.

Tim Hortons: Is inexpensive.
Starbucks: Nuh uh.

Tim Hortons: Coffee tastes good! We drink it for that reason, and possibly because it's laced with crack.
Starbucks: Tastes like shite. People drink it because celebrities supposedly do.

Tim Hortons: Home grown Canadian success story
Starbucks: Trendy, pop up overnight marketing ploy, catering to yuppies.

Tim Hortons: Founded by a Hockey player.
Starbucks: Founded by... A fictional space fighter pilot?

You could line the streets with Tim'Ho's and not damage the indie coffee shop's economy at all. Not only that but every Timmy's would be busy.
Why? It's a different caliber of shop.
Timmy's is a chain. You buy your stuff, eat it there or take it out, either way you're gone in under 20 minutes.
The indie coffee shops are a place where you can come in, sit down, read a book and slowly nurse your coffee, or take a date to. Also the coffee has a little more care put into it.
Starbucks wants to fill the shoes of both, and it just ends up sucking. I'd never take a date to Starbucks. I'd take em to Timmy's first.
But don't worry ladies. I'll never take you to a Timmy's for a date.




This is for the most part true (except for which fictional character the chain is named after). The only advantages that Starbucks has over Tim H.'s is a) better high end supecoffeerbeverages outside of the coffee, and b) I would sit down in a Starbucks in a way I would not do at Tim's.

Virtute

Virtute

Brooklyn, NY
July 2007

NOV 25, 2007 02:08 PM

I had $75 in Starbucks gift cards, so I've been drinking it for the past month. I'll go back to Dunkin Donuts when I run out.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC
August 2004

NOV 25, 2007 02:09 PM

TommyRocket said:
starbucks are everywhere in new york and it's really difficult to find a good coffee shop to sit in because they've taken all the larger spaces.

their coffee is terrible and their flavored drinks make me want to puke.

please support local shops!!!



agreed. when i worked at starbucks in the city, there was another shop right across 42nd. i drank the coffee since it was free, but i'd never pay for that shit again.

i liked it much better living in a small town that restricted franchises and chain stores from setting up, where, while there were starbucks in the neighboring towns, small, independent restaurants and stores thrived.

mellon

mellon

Tucson, AZ
October 2004

NOV 25, 2007 02:13 PM

When I was living in Manhattan ten years ago, there wasn't any decent coffee in my neighborhood except for Starbucks. Believe me, I hunted high and low. So when coffee shops complain that Starbucks runs them out of business, I have to ask: was your coffee any good? Or were you just playing the "they're a corporation and we aren't, so you should drink our coffee even if it sucks" card?

Sorry, but I just have no patience for that.

I think the reason Starbucks wins out as often as it does is because their coffee is consistent. If I already have a coffee shop I love, there's no way I'm going to go to Starbucks instead. But if I don't know what coffee shops are good, and I'm just visiting a neighborhood, I'm not likely to take a chance on an unknown coffee place, because my chances of getting better coffee than Starbucks are maybe one in ten, even though Starbucks' coffee isn't that good.

The worst thing is that when someone says a coffee shop is good, I generally don't believe them, because they often don't know the difference between good coffee and bad. I mean, there are people who actually *like* flavored coffee beans. confused

SleepyLady

SleepyLady

Los Angeles, CA
October 2007

NOV 25, 2007 02:14 PM

7-11 coffee IS suprisingly amazing. I just wish they'd get rid of the styrofoam cups.

Also, I love Dunkin Donuts. We don't have them here in L.A. but I grew up on it back in Boston. I usually just buy a bunch of beans when I'm back East. But lately the coffee taste of DD has changed. I know they got bought out a while back by some Bush-esque evil corporation...wonder if it's to do with that or I'm just dead wrong?

zenFish

zenFish

Calgary, AB
August 2004

NOV 25, 2007 02:21 PM

*sips on Starbucks coffee, ground at home*

I'll go anywhere for coffee, there is a place here that I support partially, but only because it gets way to damn busy... hence not worrying over it closing down.

I generally get my tea from a local spot, and my coffee beans from starbucks.

if I'm randomly walking late, I'll hit up a Tim Hortons.

CrazyBen

CrazyBen

Saint Petersburg, FL
September 2007

NOV 25, 2007 02:22 PM

I will admit it, I think Starbucks does NOT know to roast coffee properly, yet their espresso drinks are worlds above the competition in my area. Their ordinary coffee is trully wretched and I can't figure out for the life of me why people willingly drink such swill... Like pop novels that hover around #8 on the New York Times bestseller list, and dispassionate Liszt renditions, burnt coffee makes me sick.
There truly are NO real coffeeshops here and it sucks! I used to drive 45 minutes to drink espresso made by hot lesbian punk girls (German ones oddly) and then drive home and then I got tired of it after like a year. Now, I order Batdorf & Bronson and Peet's coffee beans, and only drink Starbucks when I don't have time to brew coffee at home. B&B are truly gods, it is, I think, the best coffee beans available in the whole of the U.S... Go to www.dancinggoats.com and order some up. I know not every body can be a "rich" graduate student and live off frozen pizzas and $30 a pound coffee, but we must take a stand against the forces of sameness, commonness and smug middle-class mediocrity mad

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

NOV 25, 2007 02:31 PM

Moonrabbit said:

Tim Hortons: Founded by a Hockey player.
Starbucks: Founded by... A fictional space fighter pilot?



Do you seriously not know that Starbuck is a character in Moby Dick?

AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

NOV 25, 2007 02:55 PM

Thistle said:

Moonrabbit said:

Tim Hortons: Founded by a Hockey player.
Starbucks: Founded by... A fictional space fighter pilot?



Do you seriously not know that Starbuck is a character in Moby Dick?


That Gregory Peck movie?

Marky

Marky

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

NOV 25, 2007 02:57 PM

starbucks are too expensive..

i think in the UK, the cheapest thing they do is around £2, which is $4...
just for a basic coffee...

so i drink bottled water instead, that is local, and not from a different country... i try..

ardour

ardour

Ottawa, ON
March 2006

NOV 25, 2007 03:05 PM

I don't like coffee. I've been to a Starbucks a few times when I've wanted a tea or something and it was the closest thing by. It's alright, but there are better places. It seems a little corporate. Not in a terrible way, but enough to be slightly annoying (I like a little uniqueness). Tim Hortons I find hilarious how everyone is so obsessed over their coffee. I don't drink it, so I don't understand. I'm lucky where I live because there are lots of choices. Several chains (local and national) and then other smaller places.

darkcharge

darkcharge

Portland, OR
June 2006

NOV 25, 2007 03:07 PM

In Portland there are over 700 independent coffee shops and some of the best baristas in North America.

They all do well because many people CHOOSE to keep their money local and support a locally owned small business.

Starbucks is here too but their coffee and espresso drinks suck and people here know it. The beans are poorly roasted and they have moved to an automated system so there is no skill involved in making their crappy drinks.

It is up to the consumers to STOP BEING SHEEPLE and start THINKING about the effects of where you spend your money. BE responsible adults people and shop smart (shop S Mart ... had to do it smile )

Timorous

Timorous

I'm lost
May 2005

NOV 25, 2007 03:16 PM

Starbucks is disgusting. I can't believe people still drink that shit...ESPECIALLY in a city like Seattle, where I am still dumbfounded to see the packed Starbucks down the street from the amazing independent coffee shop.

I don't think anything is more funny than seeing a parent say to their child "I need a coffee to wake me up, and you can't have any, it's a grown up drink. Yeah, I'd like a venti half shot whole milk caramel macchiato with extra caramel drizzle, 2 pumps chocolate, and a half pump of vanilla."

Such a grown up drink. Enjoy your bucket of diabetes.

xazapdmytinu

xazapdmytinu

Fort Collins, CO
July 2007

NOV 25, 2007 03:27 PM

lefthandright said:
star bucks as a entity was originally set by a black cell organisation by the C.I.A to covertly launder money. The plan was establish ONE in every major city in the u.s.a..this way the c.i.a could transfer illegally gained funds easily and quickly throughout the country. The administrators never anticipated that the organisation was going to make money and originally tried to keep it low key by making extremely poor quality coffee that repel a usual customer base. To date operation 'star buck' is now unofficially one of the c.i.a's most profitable branches of revenue. Every you buy a star bucks coffee, you are unwittingly supporting brutal and inhumane para-military tactics, as well as funding political regimes that impinge upon basic human rights. Just thought you should know. This information I have shared could possibly lead to my death, if i should meet an unfortunate demise...please remember...only steam the milk to a temperature of 47 degree celesius, never grind coffee more than 20 minutes before using and always adjust grind according to humidity.



I like my coffee cups like I like my hats...lined with tinfoil!

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